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ABOUT ASUS SONIC RADAR
hello gentlemen,

i just read about a new feature built into the new asus rog-mainboard series. i wonder how this can be legal. is vac going to detect this? for me its like cheating, but if this would be legal the players using this do have a real advantage compared to me and others. so i use to play with minimap and a good headset and thats really enough. im not frightened of "noobs with sonic radar" - im frightend of people already being highskilled and using sonic radar. i think u guys should put an advice somewhere, that using asus sonic radar in cs:go will lead to a ban. (vac could scan for the sonic radar process and show this advice up when steam and the radar are running twice)

is there already a way u guys deal with?
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Messaggio originale di The Rolling Ham Cheese:
Meh modern FPS are so casual that they have in game tools such as UAV to reveal player position anyways.

The only use I can see this tool have would be in the Counter strike scene, and even then only in high level competitive mode. Completely pointless in PUBs where everyone is running in all sorts of direction.
Yes, I also read the article and I was like "The heck is this? I wouldn't install this crap even if I could..."
Yeah major advantage, being able to see where people are even before you hear them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbBkrlOgZo

It's like having a layout of where all your enemies are, I think it would be cool for people who have hearing disabilities but for everyone else it would give them an unfair advantage.
Messaggio originale di Kaboom:
Yeah major advantage, being able to see where people are even before you hear them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbBkrlOgZo

It's like having a layout of where all your enemies are, I think it would be cool for people who have hearing disabilities but for everyone else it would give them an unfair advantage.

wut? The trick of the tool is to enable you to "see sound". This means if you can't naturally hear them, they won't appear on the radar. What makes this radar near 100% useless is that it picks up on all sound. This means that in an unorganized game of counter strike or in the explosive game of COD, there will be so much sound everywhere that it will render the radar entirely useless.

The only time this radar will be useful is in a 1v1 match up or when you are the only person alive.
Ultima modifica da Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel; 2 lug 2013, ore 21:13
Messaggio originale di Satoru:

It can't really 'know' where players are because the audio is piped FROM the game not the other way around. The driver cant' reverse engineer that the soft footprints are actually a person directly behind that wall that you can shoot at.
^this


not sure what you all got excited about
Messaggio originale di DRiVER_helsinki:
like many such recoil-removing mouses where scripts are uploaded onto mouse, and dont use/ need any software/process inside the operating system.

wut?
If everyone in the game had this feature it would not be a cheat. As you have to have an ASUS MB to make this work I call it a cheat. Like I said, if it does not give an advantage then why do you want it if it is worthless? Maybe a small advantage but it is an advantage. If it was allowed in competitive play it might change my mind.
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never EVERYone has it . and asus wanted patent on it so other manufacturer cant even copy.
no everyone goin to have asus hardware neither.
we play with the rules the game has set as it been released.
blablalba emotions emotions..
Messaggio originale di The Rolling Ham Cheese:
Messaggio originale di Kaboom:
Yeah major advantage, being able to see where people are even before you hear them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVbBkrlOgZo

It's like having a layout of where all your enemies are, I think it would be cool for people who have hearing disabilities but for everyone else it would give them an unfair advantage.

wut? The trick of the tool is to enable you to "see sound". This means if you can't naturally hear them, they won't appear on the radar. What makes this radar near 100% useless is that it picks up on all sound. This means that in an unorganized game of counter strike or in the explosive game of COD, there will be so much sound everywhere that it will render the radar entirely useless.

The only time this radar will be useful is in a 1v1 match up or when you are the only person alive.

That's where it gives an advantage, it cuts through all the sound in game and shows you where your enemies are. Think of the CSGO radar but instead of enemies position disappearing it constantly shows where enemy positions are. I watched a different video when I first heard about this on SPUF, but I can't seem to find it now and in that video the devs said you can set it up the way you want to and ONLY show certain sounds. This means you can set it up to only show enemy position (foot steps) or just pin point certain sounds. So the player can basically see where all enemies are that are making sounds.

It may not be a massive advantage, but an advantage non the less.
It can't be classed as a cheat since its essentially printing information you already know. It is an advantage, but not enough to be classified as a cheat.
Messaggio originale di Boilrig:
It can't be classed as a cheat since its essentially printing information you already know. It is an advantage, but not enough to be classified as a cheat.

Yep, it's like saying people with surround sound 5.1 speakers are cheating because they got better speakers than those with 2.1 speakers.
Messaggio originale di The Rolling Ham Cheese:
Messaggio originale di Boilrig:
It can't be classed as a cheat since its essentially printing information you already know. It is an advantage, but not enough to be classified as a cheat.

Yep, it's like saying people with surround sound 5.1 speakers are cheating because they got better speakers than those with 2.1 speakers.

this is a myth!

u hear the best with good 2.1 speakers and a secondary mic. i speak about good headphones - begins somewhere by 80 dollars. u can build the best headset by ur own for hundred bucks - and its better than all "gamer headsets". with a good soundcard u can hear even more. but if the degree/angle of the sound is shown in the radar, its unfair, line up ur pov into the direction the radar shows and ur on the target. imagine how u would feel hiding behind a box, making a sound and i instant headshot u through box. or even wall?

as i mentioned: ask urself what decent people can do with this engine. i can imagine the "polish guy" would be happy with hacking this radar engine for his own purposes.
It'll never be detected by VAC due that it works on driver & hardware and VAC does not scan these because it would be privacy and law violation of U.S laws. If it wasn't then VAC would detect ring0 cheats the same way like it would detect ASUS Sonic Radar. It does not modify or interact with the game process & files so no VAC ban.
I can see why everyone is getting upset over this, but isn't it a bit like spending more because you want that advantage.
It could be considered as someone in a ford focus having a race against someone in a Porsche
The person in the Porsche spent more of his cash to get the advantage.
If you look at the price of these motherboards you'd only buy them is you really want them...
Its like saying someone who uses a keyboard with macro's or a mouse with a sniper button a cheater
Am I the only one that thinks this evens the playing field for some people. I have a couple of deaf friends. Using this will get them back on a level playing field because they can not hear anything that is going on in game.

Plus I have the maximus vi hero and it is kind of annoying, most of the time you see it jumping every which way because of the firefights. You see your shots, your teammates shots, everything. It will only really give you any advantage on a 1v1 situation if you are lucky
This should be banned.
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