How Valve Anti Cheat sucks so much?

[G4bs]

I've been playing online games for years but have never seen a worse anti-cheat than Valve's one. Even Minecraft servers have better (sometimes Self-made) Ac, which is able to detect and insta-ban blatant cheaters, I can "understand" if the cheater tries to hide it using "just" Wallhack", but how the hell are not able to detect and ban mid game (like every game on the earth) blatant aimbotter, spinbotter, autobhop, triggerbot etc. At this point, I think that Valve Benefits of cheaters because they keep buying accounts with prime-status every 1-2 months or more when they get banned. I really hope that they will understand that if they fix their AC more people will play and open case making even more money anyways

[Shaggy]

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

I've been playing online games for years but have never seen a worse anti-cheat than Valve's one. Even Minecraft servers have better (sometimes Self-made) Ac, which is able to detect and insta-ban blatant cheaters, I can "understand" if the cheater tries to hide it using "just" Wallhack", but how the hell are not able to detect and ban mid game (like every game on the earth) blatant aimbotter, spinbotter, autobhop, triggerbot etc. At this point, I think that Valve Benefits of cheaters because they keep buying accounts with prime-status every 1-2 months or more when they get banned. I really hope that they will understand that if they fix their AC more people will play and open case making even more money anyways

What I'm understanding is that I need to accept that I will forever get cheat on during my csgo games because de Anti-Cheats doesn't really PREVENT cheating

It prevents some from cheating. Others continue to then come here to complain about it when they are caught..

[SpeedFreak1972]

Well no anti cheat does prevent cheating it only punish those who do granted with some it does prevent cheating, but that's more a side effect

[Zarineth]

I mean... If problem was THAT bad, CS:GO wouldn't be at it's peak popularity. Players with good trust factor rarely encounter cheaters. People claiming to play with cheaters every match either exaggerate or deserve to be matched with them.

[G4bs]

引用自 Shaggy：

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

What I'm understanding is that I need to accept that I will forever get cheat on during my csgo games because de Anti-Cheats doesn't really PREVENT cheating

It prevents some from cheating. Others continue to then come here to complain about it when they are caught..

as you said, just some, if a cheater is able to complete a match, the game is just unplayable, they should hardware ban or ip ban to prevents cheater to cheat on a new account, but why they don't do it? Cause they know the cheater will buy a new prime status account

[G4bs]

引用自 Zarineth：

I mean... If problem was THAT bad, CS:GO wouldn't be at it's peak popularity. Players with good trust factor rarely encounter cheaters. People claiming to play with cheaters every match either exaggerate or deserve to be matched with them.

if you are good at the game you can't have green trust factor since people will report you for no reason, and don't tell me that meanless reports don't modify ur trust factor cause I don't cheat and none of my friends cheat but I keep getting aimbotters who bunnyhop around

[SpeedFreak1972]

Well vac doesn't rely on reports

[G4bs]

引用自 SpeedFreak1972：

Well vac doesn't rely on reports

I know, but trust factor does. they should improve the overwatch system

[Cathulhu]

Trust Factor has nothing to do with VAC or game bans.
Valve is constantly improving VAC, Overwatch, VACnet and their other tools to fight cheating.

[Shaggy]

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

引用自 Shaggy：

It prevents some from cheating. Others continue to then come here to complain about it when they are caught..

as you said, just some, if a cheater is able to complete a match, the game is just unplayable, they should hardware ban or ip ban to prevents cheater to cheat on a new account, but why they don't do it? Cause they know the cheater will buy a new prime status account

No anti cheat will ever completely rid a game of cheaters..

引用自 Silicon Vampire：

#FixSociety

that's the only way cheating will ever stop.

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

引用自 SpeedFreak1972：

Well vac doesn't rely on reports

I know, but trust factor does. they should improve the overwatch system

Reports and trust factor have nothing to do with VAC.

[nil-lambda]

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

but for some reason, the vac on tf2 works fine, mhhh maybe cause the game is free and cheaters don't need to buy another Prime?

VAC is game-specific meaning that some Valve games have it implemented differently. The core principles are they same, but the implementation for detection and the signatures it is looking for may differ.

[Wock73]

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

引用自 Wock73：

Again, this forum is all the proof you need

the only thing I see on this forum are cheaters who get banned and then start crying over vac

You should also see that you are not the first person that came up with your breakthrough idea.

VAC punishes, it isn’t a deterrent. As a punishment it does the job.

[Hammer Of Evil]

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

I've been playing online games for years but have never seen a worse anti-cheat than Valve's one. Even Minecraft servers have better (sometimes Self-made) Ac, which is able to detect and insta-ban blatant cheaters, I can "understand" if the cheater tries to hide it using "just" Wallhack", but how the hell are not able to detect and ban mid game (like every game on the earth) blatant aimbotter, spinbotter, autobhop, triggerbot etc. At this point, I think that Valve Benefits of cheaters because they keep buying accounts with prime-status every 1-2 months or more when they get banned. I really hope that they will understand that if they fix their AC more people will play and open case making even more money anyways

oh good! an excellent discussion topic.

I appreciate that you can say this, and it is correct but only with respect to your recent experience:

-joining a game in counterstrike
-then facing a cheater shortly after.

the problem with saying 'the anti cheat does not work' is the fact that the player cheating probably has a new account that was created today - and can freely play counterstrike and disrupt other player's games until the anti cheat eventually removes them from playing. but the ban is delayed, which allows the cheater a lot of consequence free cheating.

and then once banned, the cheater makes a new steam account, rejoins the server they were griefing, and goes right back to griefing.

the fact here is, VAC is very effective, and it is picking up the paid private cheats as well, as many users are so shocked and confused that they paid for inventory stuff in cs:go, then paid for a private cheat, and still got caught lol.

so at the end of the day, the valve policy of 'allowing free to play' on counterstrike and 'delaying a ban' is caussing stress to current legitimate players.

one solution i would propose is to stop a player that has been 'vac banned' from creating new steam accounts. and remove the ability to continue this process of rinsing new accounts. this is inelegant and difficult to implement.

the community did resist having an anti cheat with high permissions on the player pc once in the past, and that likely would have taken care of cheating problems instantly.

i think perhaps a bad move to allow more cheaters into valve servers is to allow cs:go to be free to play. i think it should be paid only.

but again, its not elegant as a solution.

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

引用自 G4ps (selling my knife)：

引用自 Shaggy：

It prevents some from cheating. Others continue to then come here to complain about it when they are caught..

as you said, just some, if a cheater is able to complete a match, the game is just unplayable, they should hardware ban or ip ban to prevents cheater to cheat on a new account, but why they don't do it? Cause they know the cheater will buy a new prime status account

If someone can download a cheat, they can change their ip or hardware id. Its not even that difficult or time consuming.

[Cathulhu]

Changing IP? Takes me less than a minute to hit the reconnect button on the web interface of my router.
Spoofing hardware ID? Not that much longer.

[Gutten]

Bruh vac live is a joke