VAC :: VAC Discussion

Badstormer Oct 27, 2014 @ 9:56pm

If the program hooks into the game's memory while you're in a VAC-secured server, VAC will detect it as a cheat. Contact the software's developer, s/he will be able to tell you if it can trigger VAC.

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Cathulhu Oct 28, 2014 @ 1:54am

Hooking into a game is not grounds for a ban, as a hook itself is harmless. You are evidently confusing it with injecting, which is a different and way more dangerous matter.

If it only creates an overlay to show you those values, it was not the cause for the ban.

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Badstormer Oct 28, 2014 @ 3:45am

Originally posted by Cathulhu:
Hooking into a game is not grounds for a ban, as a hook itself is harmless. You are evidently confusing it with injecting, which is a different and way more dangerous matter.

If it only creates an overlay to show you those values, it was not the cause for the ban.

Eh, I'm not sure exactly what triggers VAC, but it's safer to assume that even a hook *could* set it off. Whatever the case, if it was the only thing OP was using - assuming s/he isn't lying - it has to be the cause for the ban, unless someone else has access to his/her account/PC.

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«pigrond» Oct 28, 2014 @ 5:35am

it would be safe to assume any program that hooks into the game that is not part of the game will result in a ban. it is after all 1 of many things vac is looking for.

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«pigrond» Oct 28, 2014 @ 5:36am

i agree a system monitor program is not likely to cause a ban. millions use them.

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«pigrond» Oct 28, 2014 @ 5:39am

getting banned on both accounts means you have downloaded and ran something that vac detected, when you were logged onto either account in a game.

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Theblaze Oct 28, 2014 @ 6:29am

It's very unlikely that system monitor will trigger a VAC ban, if you know Xfire and have the in-game overlay enabled it will also hook into the game same as Steam in-game overlay and other softwares like this.

There must be another reason why you have been VAC banned either modifying the core files or the memory of the game which is against the [t]erm [o]f [s]ervice (depends on the game and it's TOS).

We can't help you much with this related problem and the Steam Support won't answer in a public forum so you have to contact Steam Support in order to get a answer, to do this, create a Steam Support Account if you don't have one and create a Ticket to contact Steam Support.

A answer may take a while (days, weeks) due to high ticket volume.

Last edited by Theblaze; Oct 28, 2014 @ 6:36am

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Blaquicat Oct 28, 2014 @ 6:45am

Originally posted by Badstormer:
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
Hooking into a game is not grounds for a ban, as a hook itself is harmless. You are evidently confusing it with injecting, which is a different and way more dangerous matter.

If it only creates an overlay to show you those values, it was not the cause for the ban.
Eh, I'm not sure exactly what triggers VAC, but it's safer to assume that even a hook *could* set it off. Whatever the case, if it was the only thing OP was using - assuming s/he isn't lying - it has to be the cause for the ban, unless someone else has access to his/her account/PC.

Does not matter, we dont know technically how vac works, the terms "injection" and "hook" is just logical terms, we dont know how it works for real (technically)
So, both of you can be right, but both can be wrong too and we never know..

The program op used dont necessary need to hook in the game, the game is already sending the data to a DirectX driver (or another opengl driver in linux case), the program probably hooks there, or it can hook directly in the VGA firmware (injectin info), just like nvidia or catalyst software do, so that dont caused OP vac ban,
Sorry my bad english.

Last edited by Blaquicat; Oct 28, 2014 @ 6:49am

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Badstormer Oct 28, 2014 @ 8:06am

Whatever the case, something triggered VAC, and if the program OP was using was the ONLY thing that was used alongside CSGO (no other programs or modified files), then either someone conviniently strolled along and cheated on OP's account after using the program/while using it, or the program triggered VAC.

Contact whoever developed the program to ask them if they're aware as to rather or not it will trigger VAC. If it does not trigger VAC, then something else decided to cheat on your account - or just modified something in the CSGO directory.

Last edited by Badstormer; Oct 28, 2014 @ 8:07am

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76561198150156258 Oct 28, 2014 @ 9:39am

I use the overlay that comes along with EVGA Precision X, I have used that for a long time but I recently updated something in it. Could the update have had something to do with this?

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Random Reference #98 Oct 28, 2014 @ 1:29pm

Originally posted by Badstormer:
Whatever the case, something triggered VAC, and if the program OP was using was the ONLY thing that was used alongside CSGO (no other programs or modified files), then either someone conviniently strolled along and cheated on OP's account after using the program/while using it, or the program triggered VAC.

Contact whoever developed the program to ask them if they're aware as to rather or not it will trigger VAC. If it does not trigger VAC, then something else decided to cheat on your account - or just modified something in the CSGO directory.

I think you're giving the OP too much credit. The simplest answer is usually correct and in this case the simplest answer is the OP cheated and like every other cheater has come in here to lie about it because they don't realize people in these forums can't unban them.

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jejj2k10 Oct 28, 2014 @ 1:38pm

It's very unlikely that system monitor will trigger a VAC ban, if you know Xfire and have the in-game overlay enabled it will also hook into the game same as Steam in-game overlay and other softwares like this.

There must be another reason why you have been VAC banned either modifying the core files or the memory of the game which is against the [t]erm [o]f [s]ervice (depends on the game and it's TOS).

We can't help you much with this related problem and the Steam Support won't answer in a public forum so you have to contact Steam Support in order to get a answer, to do this, create a Steam Support Account if you don't have one and create a Ticket to contact Steam Support.

A answer may take a while (days, weeks) due to high ticket volum

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dirrtymartini Oct 28, 2014 @ 2:29pm

Originally posted by Random Reference #49:
Originally posted by Badstormer:
Whatever the case, something triggered VAC, and if the program OP was using was the ONLY thing that was used alongside CSGO (no other programs or modified files), then either someone conviniently strolled along and cheated on OP's account after using the program/while using it, or the program triggered VAC.

Contact whoever developed the program to ask them if they're aware as to rather or not it will trigger VAC. If it does not trigger VAC, then something else decided to cheat on your account - or just modified something in the CSGO directory.
I think you're giving the OP too much credit. The simplest answer is usually correct and in this case the simplest answer is the OP cheated and like every other cheater has come in here to lie about it because they don't realize people in these forums can't unban them.

Exactly. This system monitor nonsense is just an excuse. The OP cheated and is trying to talk his out of two VAC bans. We've seen it a thousand times before and we will see it a thousand times again.

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Astori Heichalot Oct 28, 2014 @ 9:16pm

Originally posted by <HylaX>:
I use the overlay that comes along with EVGA Precision X, I have used that for a long time but I recently updated something in it. Could the update have had something to do with this?

hardware monitor will not trigger VAC ban

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