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Klaf 27 stycznia 2014 o 3:42
Why are there still people in CS:GO cheating? (How can we stop cheaters in ranked matches?)
No, realy! Can someone give ma a short awnser about why it's still not posible to detect cheaters on Valves servers - they ruin this game!
At least I wannt my ranked play without them!
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Klaf; 28 stycznia 2014 o 1:10
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DNs 28 stycznia 2014 o 9:23 
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Because cheat developers are constantly updating their cheats to stay ahead of VAC. You might as well ask why the police haven't managed to completely eliminate murder.


thats a joke of a comparison if there would be as many murders as cheaters in CS:GO in cities you wouldnt be able to step out of your own house without getting into a shotout.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: DNs; 28 stycznia 2014 o 9:24
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Klaf 29 stycznia 2014 o 4:58 
Ok, I understand that it is VAC not possible to stop all of them.
But why there a any trys to prevent the well knowen hacks and cheats?
I mean ther are the same hacks being used out there from the very first days on.

It can't be the only way to stop them by watching the replay and than decide to ban.
That is so passiv and no player get notic that is something happen aginst cheaters - we need something more aktiv to defend the vault of the game!

We must get rid of them! Or Im the only one who thinks that ther can be done more?
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meOff. 29 stycznia 2014 o 5:05 
We cant stop cheaters, that's it.
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Anarchisteve 29 stycznia 2014 o 5:11 
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Because cheat developers are constantly updating their cheats to stay ahead of VAC. You might as well ask why the police haven't managed to completely eliminate murder.


thats a joke of a comparison if there would be as many murders as cheaters in CS:GO in cities you wouldnt be able to step out of your own house without getting into a shotout.

It's not "a joke of a comparison". The police can't completely eliminate murder because they can't normally deal with it until after it has happened. The same is true of VAC, you can't blacklist a cheat until after it has been made (and you've managed to find a copy of it) and you can't ban cheaters until after they've cheated.

The only way for VAC to work is as a reaction to cheating, there is no sensible way to make it pre-emtive, and that means there is always going to be a degree of cheating (at least until somebody finds a way to blacklist cheats that haven't even been made yet).
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Chris 29 stycznia 2014 o 5:46 
In most cases the police are there no punish, not prevent.

Don’t want to play with cheaters? Play on a server with active admins.
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Anarchisteve 29 stycznia 2014 o 6:14 
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In most cases the police are there no punish, not prevent.

That's not actually true. In most cases the police can't prevent a crime because they have absolutely no way of knowing it is going to happen until after the event. The idea of imprisoning criminals is a) to prevent them from being able to commit more crimes and b) to give other people an incentive to not commit crimes, it is not to make people suffer. VAC is, in principle, the same.
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DNs 29 stycznia 2014 o 11:20 
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We cant stop cheaters, that's it.

Simple Solution for the genuine Players: VIP-PASS monthly fee ~4-8€, 128 tick premium servers, registration per passport, once caught cheating lifetime ban, that passport gets blacklisted.

1. Dont tell me thats much look how much you guys spent for skins.
2. Those who dont like this they can keep on like this atm is MM full of cheaters on higher ranks.
3. So once banned those kiddies have to fake their ID´sin order to keep cheating in this VIP-Section and there VALVE or anyone else of us may sue them easy.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: DNs; 29 stycznia 2014 o 11:22
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CocaineKID ✌ 29 stycznia 2014 o 12:08 
Unfortunatly cheaters can not be stopped.. I've been playing csgo for 5 months now. As the game runs smooth and I get better and found a nice team to play in, I get banned for cheating..
My rank was gold nova master ... Makes me scared to rank up this account as well -.-
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DNs 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:10 
Yannick ;D LOL
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Chara the Explorer 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:20 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Gee @ BDAY:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Rabarbar:
We cant stop cheaters, that's it.

Simple Solution for the genuine Players: VIP-PASS monthly fee ~4-8€, 128 tick premium servers, registration per passport, once caught cheating lifetime ban, that passport gets blacklisted.

1. Dont tell me thats much look how much you guys spent for skins.
2. Those who dont like this they can keep on like this atm is MM full of cheaters on higher ranks.
3. So once banned those kiddies have to fake their ID´sin order to keep cheating in this VIP-Section and there VALVE or anyone else of us may sue them easy.

"Registration per passport"? What is that supposed to mean?
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DNs 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:35 
Początkowo opublikowane przez The Milkman Conspiracy:
Początkowo opublikowane przez Gee @ BDAY:

Simple Solution for the genuine Players: VIP-PASS monthly fee ~4-8€, 128 tick premium servers, registration per passport, once caught cheating lifetime ban, that passport gets blacklisted.

1. Dont tell me thats much look how much you guys spent for skins.
2. Those who dont like this they can keep on like this atm is MM full of cheaters on higher ranks.
3. So once banned those kiddies have to fake their ID´sin order to keep cheating in this VIP-Section and there VALVE or anyone else of us may sue them easy.

"Registration per passport"? What is that supposed to mean?

You may -----> optional <----- register for a VIP-Section, which only VIP Members get access to.
You send a copy of your passport get a pin and if you cheated and valve comfirms you cheated by actual proof, your pin gets revoked and you never can join VIP again, unless you fake your Passport which is a really sueable crime.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: DNs; 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:37
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Chara the Explorer 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:42 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Gee @ BDAY:
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"Registration per passport"? What is that supposed to mean?

You may -----> optional <----- register for a VIP-Section, which only VIP Members get access to.
You send a copy of your passport get a pin and if you cheated and valve comfirms you cheated by actual proof, your pin gets revoked and you never can join VIP again, unless you fake your Passport which is a really sueable crime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

I don't think I need to explain why that's never going to happen...
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Anarchisteve 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:48 
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...fake your Passport which is a really sueable crime.

Forging a passport is a criminal offense, not a civil one.
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Chris 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:49 
Just play on servers which have a fair number of active admins.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Chris; 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:49
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DNs 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:49 
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...fake your Passport which is a really sueable crime.

Forging a passport is a criminal offense, not a civil one.

See so they dont even have to take their own lawyers :) finally one with a brain
Ostatnio edytowany przez: DNs; 29 stycznia 2014 o 13:49
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