MW3 VAC-banned

[Plan B (NL)]

Yep, I have cheated on MW3, I won't deny it and I admit that I deserved the ban.

But listen this is what VAC says:

''The Valve Anti-Cheat system is enabled for servers displaying the Secured shield logo. ''

I've never seen a Secured shield logo when i joined a public or private server and I've never seen a warning like: 'Dont cheat or you will get banned' on MW3


And another thing: There are so many hackers with blatant hacks on MW3 like godmode & noclip.

I never knew anything about VAC till i got banned and in my opinion should VAC bans be limited I mean, I've paid 50 euro for the game and now I will never be able to play it because I didn't know VAC is enabled on MW3

And you guys will likely say: VAC-bans should be permanent because a cheater will cheat as soon as possible

1. Well, he got then VAC-banned just again
2. There are already thousand of cheaters who cheat so much as they can on Dota 2 / TF2
they just create a account, got banned, and then they just create another account and then they will cheat again.

So that's not a fair reason to keep VAC-bans permanent.

[Forcen]

You can play as much MW3 singleplayer as you want so your money still got you something, even though you wasted your multiplayer privileges.

I don't think we need milder punishments for cheaters, you said yourself that many cheaters i MW3. You think they will decrease if bans are time limited? I'm guessing there will be more cheating.

[Theblaze]

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

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I've never seen a Secured shield logo when i joined a public or private server and I've never seen a warning like: 'Dont cheat or you will get banned' on MW3
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This was meant on source game, Call of Duty is running on a different engine and you don't get a warning if you used cheats.

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

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And another thing: There are so many hackers with blatant hacks on MW3 like godmode & noclip.
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It's because Modern Warfare 3 uses "Peer 2 Peer/P2P" host system what means, players are hosting the lobbies and thats a issue since Modern Warfare 2 that host can't be kicked out of the game even if they host modded lobbies.

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

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I never knew anything about VAC till i got banned and in my opinion should VAC bans be limited I mean, I've paid 50 euro for the game and now I will never be able to play it because I didn't know VAC is enabled on MW3
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VAC is automated and will only trigger if you used known cheats/hacks or mods in the VAC database. VAC bans are permanent and will not be lifted.

[Plan B (NL)]

Forcen eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't think we need milder punishments for cheaters, you said yourself that many cheaters i MW3. You think they will decrease if bans are time limited? I'm guessing there will be more cheating.

Some cheaters learned from their mistakes, For example: Cheaters with 1 VAC-ban and like 5 or more VAC enabled games, and that are alot of people

[Theblaze]

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

Some cheaters learned from their mistakes, For example: Cheaters with 1 VAC-ban and like 5 or more VAC enabled games, and that are alot of people

If they do, the only way to play the game again is to create another account and rebuy the game.

[Plan B (NL)]

Theblaze eredeti hozzászólása:

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

Some cheaters learned from their mistakes, For example: Cheaters with 1 VAC-ban and like 5 or more VAC enabled games, and that are alot of people

If they do, the only way to play the game again is to create another account and rebuy the game.

Yea it's unfortunately the only way, but not really fair in my opinion. I hope they will update VAC someday.

[ReBoot]

They won't and its fair.

[Forcen]

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

Forcen eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't think we need milder punishments for cheaters, you said yourself that many cheaters i MW3. You think they will decrease if bans are time limited? I'm guessing there will be more cheating.

Some cheaters learned from their mistakes, For example: Cheaters with 1 VAC-ban and like 5 or more VAC enabled games, and that are a lot of people

Lets say some people who wont play MW3 for a good while because of a newer game has come out, if VAC bans where only for a year they could be tempted to cheat a bit just to test it out and then play some other game while they waited for their ban to pass.
Leaner punishments could lead to more causal cheaters in short.

[Theblaze]

They won't, if someone is cheating and VAC banned, he can't do nothing because he agreed the Steam Subscriber Agreement by creating a steam account.
Read more here: Steam Subscriber Agreement and search for: "4. ONLINE CONDUCT, CHEATING AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR".

[Plan B (NL)]

Theblaze eredeti hozzászólása:

They won't, if someone is cheating and VAC banned, he can't do nothing because he agreed the Steam Subscriber Agreement by creating a steam account.
Read more here: Steam Subscriber Agreement and search for: "4. ONLINE CONDUCT, CHEATING AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR".

No one read that, and another thing I'm from the Netherlands and the SSA is only in English
I mean, you cant expect from someone who cant Speak/Read English agree with the SSA and dont cheat.

[ReBoot]

Who cares? You don't need to read the SSA to know that cheating is bad and you should never ever cheat.

[Mis-Teeq]

This is your fault. When you looked at the store page to buy the game you should've noticed that the game is VAC secure. It flat out tells you that.

Your fault, don't cry about it.

[Ineffable Anathema]

How many threads do we need in a month's time saying "perm ban isn't fair"? We've already had several get locked. Look, VAC is permanent. It's likely going to stay permanent. You agreed to this when you made the account. For further questions or clarification, refer to the pinned thread or send support a ticket.

[Theblaze]

Plan B (NL) eredeti hozzászólása:

No one read that [...]

I expected a answer like this and I wouldn't recommend to ignore all subscriber agreement because sometimes there is something in it you wouldn't probably agree if you readed it.

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Let's just say for an example Steam isn't free at "all" and you didn't read it, after some months later you get a letter with a payment and you wondering why, it is your fault then and you have to pay it because you didn't read the subscriber agreement.

You should be careful with it but sometimes people have to learn from their own fault, isn't true?.
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