I think CS2 should switch to a new ban system.

[Мейби Бэйби #GOD]

there are a large number of people with expensive inventories and accounts who foolishly could download the cheat, but I'm sure that after removing the ban, they will think 100 more times before playing with cheats, there are also a huge number of people who got banned by mistake. I think the ban system should move from indefinite to long-term bans of up to 5 years. Those who have lost their accounts with expensive skins will be able to return them after a while. I consider the term of 5 years to be the most humane, during this time a person will clearly reflect on his mistake and will no longer do so. advance the discussion if you agree.

[Pscht]

Finite bans have been tried. You are years and hundreds of threads too late with your "idea".

[Wolf Knight]

if you have feedback about a game, post in that games forum

steam already tried temp bans with VAC, they did nothing. the cheaters went right back to cheating as soon as the ban expired, it did not matter how long the ban was. this is why the bans are PERMANENT

[Thermal Lance]

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there are also a huge number of people who got banned by mistake.

Citation needed.

[Mr. Monday]

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there are also a huge number of people who got banned by mistake.

And the overwhelming majority of those (who are actual mistake and not just claiming to have been banned by mistake) get the bans overturned within days.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Офицер X 666 původně napsal:

there are a large number of people with expensive inventories and accounts who foolishly could download the cheat, but I'm sure that after removing the ban, they will think 100 more times before playing with cheats, there are also a huge number of people who got banned by mistake. I think the ban system should move from indefinite to long-term bans of up to 5 years. Those who have lost their accounts with expensive skins will be able to return them after a while. I consider the term of 5 years to be the most humane, during this time a person will clearly reflect on his mistake and will no longer do so. advance the discussion if you agree.

You're a bit late.


Valve started working on a "long-term solution" for cheating in 2001.VAC's nitial release was with Counter-Strike in 2002. During this initial release, the system only banned players for 24 hours. The duration of the ban was increased over time; players were banned for 1 year and 5 years, until VAC2 was released in 2005, when any new bans became permanent.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat

They gave second chances, people kept cheating. Hence permanent VAC bans

Your VAC ban is as stated above, permanent.


https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/


Read everything in those links.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

It's always hilarious when they suggest the exact thing that Valve did years ago. It further proves that the majority of users with banned accounts don't read up on anything before making threads here...nor do they read anything afterwards, either.

[Vamp]

Ughhh here we go again, the bi weekly "I think VAC should be changed and here's a big piece of text explaining how cheaters wont cheat after getting banned and then people reply with but they will! and even though this stuff is regurgitated every two weeks it will still reach 10 pages of replies"

[Silicon Vampire]

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Ughhh here we go again, the bi weekly "I think VAC should be changed and here's a big piece of text explaining how cheaters wont cheat after getting banned and then people reply with but they will! and even though this stuff is regurgitated every two weeks it will still reach 10 pages of replies"

Nothing says zero-tolerance better than letting this BS go on for days... [/sarcasm]

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ain't it grand? Miss the days when threads like these were answered and locked, in a timely manner. Any thread here actually.

They have more staff now (if I recall) and it's way slower. How does that even work?...and these are paid mods.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

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there are a large number of people with expensive inventories and accounts who foolishly could download the cheat, but I'm sure that after removing the ban, they will think 100 more times before playing with cheats, there are also a huge number of people who got banned by mistake. I think the ban system should move from indefinite to long-term bans of up to 5 years. Those who have lost their accounts with expensive skins will be able to return them after a while. I consider the term of 5 years to be the most humane, during this time a person will clearly reflect on his mistake and will no longer do so. advance the discussion if you agree.

Your ban's permanent, plain and simple. And even if they did change bans from permanent to "long-term", the MINIMUM they should do is remove the account's skins and prime status once the ban expires.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

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Useless thread about how VAC should be better - ✅

Person suggesting something that has been debated to death - ✅

Suggesting lighter punishment - ✅

Has VAC ban - ✅✅✅

Odd that I have never came across this hot take OP, you may be on to something

Most of the accounts who make topics as these couldn't care less about the bans, and just want access to the skins, or Prime.

Because a huge number of them are bought accounts.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

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Leonardo Da Pinchi původně napsal:

Most of the accounts who make topics as these couldn't care less about the bans, and just want access to the skins, or Prime.

Because a huge number of them are bought accounts.

This isn’t my first rodeo, Leo

Nor mine, I'm just adding the stipulation because I feel that's OP's intent. The skins/prime. Now if OP still wanted the ban to be temporary, after both prime and the skins were removed, it might lend a better credence to their suggestion.


But you and I are both aware anyway, temp bans simply don't work.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

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Nor mine, I'm just adding the stipulation because I feel that's OP's intent. The skins/prime. Now if OP still wanted the ban to be temporary, after both prime and the skins were removed, it might lend a better credence to their suggestion.


But you and I are both aware anyway, temp bans simply don't work.

Sorry, I meant that as a /s. I agree with your viewpoint, however, we pretty much are there already when they make a new account. Still lose Prime and skins, but also the epeen of having an established account. That part would be my biggest fear if I were banned

As far as bought accounts, I wouldn’t know either way, I admit it doesn’t make sense to me but neither does people trying to appeal a permanent ban to us normies

I had thought up of a varied HWID ban system where unique computers draw a unique Steam instance, that's registered to the system across all accounts made on that system. Where accounts are linked to a certain Steam # and once one account on that steam instance is banned, all are. Gaming Cafes can get a cafe license so they'd be able to bypass this system.

However there's still a lot to factor in, such as spoofing, re-sold used computers, etc. It's not as harsh as HWID bans, and there still needs a lot to be tweaked.

Such as phished accounts causing the unique Steam # to getting banned, etc.

The current system is far from perfect, but it works. However...as several others have said in the past...until we can change human nature, we're going to see cheaters.

[The Emperor Of Mankind]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| původně napsal:

Ain't it grand? Miss the days when threads like these were answered and locked, in a timely manner. Any thread here actually.

They have more staff now (if I recall) and it's way slower. How does that even work?...and these are paid mods.

I miss it when SV would post and lock the thread. The paid mods barely pay any attention to this part of the fourms. I think the fourm itself was better under the volunteers...

[JacquesPatat]

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there are a large number of people with expensive inventories and accounts who foolishly could download the cheat, but I'm sure that after removing the ban, they will think 100 more times before playing with cheats, there are also a huge number of people who got banned by mistake. I think the ban system should move from indefinite to long-term bans of up to 5 years. Those who have lost their accounts with expensive skins will be able to return them after a while. I consider the term of 5 years to be the most humane, during this time a person will clearly reflect on his mistake and will no longer do so. advance the discussion if you agree.

quite amazing these so called "ideas" is coming most of the time from users who were caught cheating.