how many "false vac bans" are there actually?

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[Runkel]

Messaggio originale di Kerssh:

Messaggio originale di Runkel:

Sometimes it is Black & White, Viruses can't get you VAC banned.
VAC looks for known cheat signatures and bans the Account in question if it finds a cheat that's in its database (needless to say Viruses and malware are not in VAC's Database).
If your ban was really wrong, it would have been lifted automatically years ago.

Yep, because valve is known for their impenetrable and flawless anti cheat systems, thats why cs is the least cheated esport game that exist xD Im not gonna respond to this thread anymore because I have no interest in convincing some random of anything, like I said, just answered the thread and shared my experience.

*The Anti Cheat System with the least false positives.

[TheLevelCap]

There are some false bans, but they are removed. I got falsely banned twice last year, but they removed the same day; however I've seen people get their ban removed after +120days

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Messaggio originale di Kerssh:

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

It's not incorrect after 2277 days.

Viruses do not cause a VAC ban. An old excuse that has never worked.

You cannot appeal VAC bans.

You've had 2277 days to read these:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/

That ban is correct or it would've been automatically removed a LONG time ago, it will never be removed.

Literally dont care about making excuses, I just responed to the thread to share my experience. Never cared about cs rank, pc got infected, appealed multiple times, ♥♥♥♥ happens. Life isnt always black and white.

Personally I wouldn't put my time into a service if I felt I was wrongly banned, but yet here we are.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Messaggio originale di Kerssh:

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

It's not incorrect after 2277 days.

Viruses do not cause a VAC ban. An old excuse that has never worked.

You cannot appeal VAC bans.

You've had 2277 days to read these:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/

That ban is correct or it would've been automatically removed a LONG time ago, it will never be removed.

Literally dont care about making excuses, I just responed to the thread to share my experience. Never cared about cs rank, pc got infected, appealed multiple times, ♥♥♥♥ happens. Life isnt always black and white.

Infections do not cause the bans and you cannot appeal them. Did you even read what you were told?

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[ReBoot]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Messaggio originale di Kerssh:

Literally dont care about making excuses, I just responed to the thread to share my experience. Never cared about cs rank, pc got infected, appealed multiple times, ♥♥♥♥ happens. Life isnt always black and white.

Infections do not cause the bans and you cannot appeal them. Did you even read what you were told?

Actually, infections can cause bans. Account-stealing malware is a thing, account-stealing malware has been a thing before Steam came into existence. Account-stealing malware (i.e. keyloggers) can steal accounts, hand them to bad guys with those bad guys doing whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they want with those accounts, including using them to test-drive cheats.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

The infections themselves are not what causes the ban and you know that. Malware isn't cheats.

By that logic, any computer that had malware on it, that connected to a VAC secured server, would get banned.

[ReBoot]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

The infections themselves are not what causes the ban and you know that. Malware isn't cheats.

Technically, yes. Effectively, it's the malware infection that starts the chain of events leading to a ban on a system infested with account-stealing malware.

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

By that logic, any computer that had malware on it, that connected to a VAC secured server, would get banned.

... except there's non-account-stealing malware. There's malware specifically targeting online banking (which wouldn't cause any Steam-related troubles), there's botnet malware (which uses your system as some node in some grander scheme, not targeting any of your accounts). There's other kinds of malware that don't have any causal connection to a VAC ban.

"Your honor, I didn't kill the victim. I merely pulled the trigger. It is not the trigger pull itself that caused the death and you know that. The trigger pull merely set off a primed mechanism setting off a chemical reaction setting off a kinetic reaction. A trigger isn't a bullet wound."

Have fun trying that one.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Messaggio originale di ReBoot:

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

The infections themselves are not what causes the ban and you know that. Malware isn't cheats.

Technically, yes. Effectively, it's the malware infection that starts the chain of events leading to a ban on a system infested with account-stealing malware.

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

By that logic, any computer that had malware on it, that connected to a VAC secured server, would get banned.

... except there's non-account-stealing malware. There's malware specifically targeting online banking (which wouldn't cause any Steam-related troubles), there's botnet malware (which uses your system as some node in some grander scheme, not targeting any of your accounts). There's other kinds of malware that don't have any causal connection to a VAC ban.

"Your honor, I didn't kill the victim. I merely pulled the trigger. It is not the trigger pull itself that caused the death and you know that. The trigger pull merely set off a primed mechanism setting off a chemical reaction setting off a kinetic reaction. A trigger isn't a bullet wound."

Have fun trying that one.

You're forgetting the keyword in your post, which is leading. Malware does not cause a VAC ban. Cheats do.

Something leading to something doesn't mean it causes it.

[ReBoot]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You're forgetting the keyword in your post, which is leading. Malware does not cause a VAC ban. Cheats do.

Something leading to something doesn't mean it causes it.

If you're really that desperate to split verbal hairs, have fun. Effectively speaking, as in "to what extent does it actually matter in reality", logging into one's account on a system entirely free of cheats, yet containing account-stealing malware, is a bad idea as a VAC (or game) ban is a possible consequence. That is the cold, hard & simple truth of it. No amount of technicalities changes anything about "do not use your account on a system you suspect to contain account-stealing malware".

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Messaggio originale di ReBoot:

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

The infections themselves are not what causes the ban and you know that. Malware isn't cheats.

Technically, yes. Effectively, it's the malware infection that starts the chain of events leading to a ban on a system infested with account-stealing malware.

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

By that logic, any computer that had malware on it, that connected to a VAC secured server, would get banned.

... except there's non-account-stealing malware. There's malware specifically targeting online banking (which wouldn't cause any Steam-related troubles), there's botnet malware (which uses your system as some node in some grander scheme, not targeting any of your accounts). There's other kinds of malware that don't have any causal connection to a VAC ban.

"Your honor, I didn't kill the victim. I merely pulled the trigger. It is not the trigger pull itself that caused the death and you know that. The trigger pull merely set off a primed mechanism setting off a chemical reaction setting off a kinetic reaction. A trigger isn't a bullet wound."

Have fun trying that one.

Yeah there's been many instances in the past of malicious .dll swappers writing themselves into users file architecture which has triggered bans for users. Not sure what the objective was other than to get users banned but it was pretty rife back in the H1Z1 days. I can only assume it's designed to target people they didn't like.

[Es0]

a lot

[GobboKirk]

Messaggio originale di Es0:

a lot

Your profile seems to indicate it works pretty well.

[Es0]

Messaggio originale di GobboKirk:

Messaggio originale di Es0:

a lot

Your profile seems to indicate it works pretty well.

it took em a long time tho

[GobboKirk]

Messaggio originale di Es0:

Messaggio originale di GobboKirk:

Your profile seems to indicate it works pretty well.

it took em a long time tho

They might be slow as F, but in the end I'd rather have that than more false positives.