Myth: VAC does not work. Valve doesn't do anything against cheaters

[SW1K]

Myth: VAC does not work. Valve doesn't do anything against cheaters.
Reality: The simple fact is, for all intents and purposes VAC does work. Even community measured metrics like steamdb[steamdb.info] (outdated) and steamid[steamid.uk] (delayed) show that, relative to the growth of Steam and the popular games, so have the amount of cheat bans. The real number is likely even bigger.

[Baxxy.Nut]

People who barely know how to turn on their computer want to whine and cry about how valve should just make a good anticheat, I don't take any of them seriously.

[Gompe]

Vac clearly doesn't do anything, just playing the game alone would show you this. Closet cheaters are everywhere around 15k rating, and after 20k+ it's literally all hack vs hack. It's comical at this point. The only people who think cheaters dont exist are the children and gambling addicts in low elo who crack open cases for valve. One of the reason the community is so bad, the game makes it that way. Valve has been fostering cheating communities for years by not taking action, they even have steam groups with 10k+ members.

[Baxxy.Nut]

Originally posted by Gompe:

Vac clearly doesn't do anything, just playing the game alone would show you this. Closet cheaters are everywhere around 15k rating, and after 20k+ it's literally all hack vs hack. It's comical at this point. The only people who think cheaters dont exist are the children and gambling addicts in low elo who crack open cases for valve. One of the reason the community is so bad, the game makes it that way. Valve has been fostering cheating communities for years by not taking action, they even have steam groups with 10k+ members.

lol, here's one. You realize you literally can't get rid of cheaters? it's absolutely impossible.

[Gompe]

Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:

Originally posted by Gompe:

Vac clearly doesn't do anything, just playing the game alone would show you this. Closet cheaters are everywhere around 15k rating, and after 20k+ it's literally all hack vs hack. It's comical at this point. The only people who think cheaters dont exist are the children and gambling addicts in low elo who crack open cases for valve. One of the reason the community is so bad, the game makes it that way. Valve has been fostering cheating communities for years by not taking action, they even have steam groups with 10k+ members.

lol, here's one. You realize you literally can't get rid of cheaters? it's absolutely impossible.

True I guess. What you can do however is always strive to do the best you can, similar to valorant and faceit, they seem to be doing pretty well, no? Valve has obviously checked out from anything anti cheat related. Cheats have been undetected for decades now. Cheaters have steam groups with 10k+ members on STEAM. How does that in anyway tell/show you that they are doing anything about cheating?

You can't get rid of [insert any IRL unlawful act such a murder, theft, fraud] right? So why would the police do anything to catch a murderer, thief, or fraudster? Oh, that's right, because it keeps the community safe!

You would think that logic would also be applied to the counter strike community, but it is obvious that valve does not care about the game, and only wants people to gamble in their casino.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Gompe:

Vac clearly doesn't do anything, just playing the game alone would show you this. Closet cheaters are everywhere around 15k rating, and after 20k+ it's literally all hack vs hack. It's comical at this point. The only people who think cheaters dont exist are the children and gambling addicts in low elo who crack open cases for valve. One of the reason the community is so bad, the game makes it that way. Valve has been fostering cheating communities for years by not taking action, they even have steam groups with 10k+ members.

Its banning cheaters. What did you think it was supposed to do?

This has nothing to do with cases...

[Baxxy.Nut]

Originally posted by Gompe:

Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:

lol, here's one. You realize you literally can't get rid of cheaters? it's absolutely impossible.

True I guess. What you can do however is always strive to do the best you can, similar to valorant and faceit, they seem to be doing pretty well, no? Valve has obviously checked out from anything anti cheat related. Cheats have been undetected for decades now. Cheaters have steam groups with 10k+ members on STEAM. How does that in anyway tell/show you that they are doing anything about cheating?

You can't get rid of [insert any IRL unlawful act such a murder, theft, fraud] right? So why would the police do anything to catch a murderer, thief, or fraudster? Oh, that's right, because it keeps the community safe!

You would think that logic would also be applied to the counter strike community, but it is obvious that valve does not care about the game, and only wants people to gamble in their casino.

look up what intrusive anticheat is. It is LITERALLY the fault of the playerbase that we don't have an anticheat like vanguard or faceitAC.

[CANCELCULTURE]

Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:

People who barely know how to turn on their computer want to whine and cry about how valve should just make a good anticheat, I don't take any of them seriously.

Still based on the sheer amount of Steam User Reviews found claiming to many hacks and cheaters for DOTA 2 and CS2. I'll never play those games.

Like there are people that make and use cheats and hacks that just continuously reopen new Steam accounts and continue to do so. Guy on YouTube @Sparkles interviewed cheat / hack dev. really insightful. Valve has a long time problem that will never be stopped.

Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:

lol, here's one. You realize you literally can't get rid of cheaters? it's absolutely impossible.

Yep! Thanks Valve!

[SpeedFreak1972]

Hmm looks at forum you could've fooled me

[Fr4ntic]

Originally posted by CANCELCULTURE:

Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:

People who barely know how to turn on their computer want to whine and cry about how valve should just make a good anticheat, I don't take any of them seriously.

Still based on the sheer amount of Steam User Reviews found claiming to many hacks and cheaters for DOTA 2 and CS2. I'll never play those games.

Like there are people that make and use cheats and hacks that just continuously reopen new Steam accounts and continue to do so. Guy on YouTube @Sparkles interviewed cheat / hack dev. really insightful. Valve has a long time problem that will never be stopped.

Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:

lol, here's one. You realize you literally can't get rid of cheaters? it's absolutely impossible.

Yep! Thanks Valve!

Your saying Valve is the one responsible for not getting rid off cheaters in all games ?

Because thats what he ( must have ) ment , you cannot get rid off cheaters in multiplayers games.
Unless you think your able to change human behaviour.

[CANCELCULTURE]

Originally posted by Fr4ntic:

Your saying Valve is the one responsible for not getting rid off cheaters in all games ?

Because thats what he ( must have ) ment , you cannot get rid off cheaters in multiplayers games.
Unless you think your able to change human behaviour.

Only in all "their games" but it's been what 20 years, human behavior and no one responsible for not getting rid of cheaters permanently. They gladly take that new money for re-opened accounts. And people will keep giving it to them. Cheaters, makers or otherwise.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by CANCELCULTURE:

Originally posted by Fr4ntic:

Your saying Valve is the one responsible for not getting rid off cheaters in all games ?

Because thats what he ( must have ) ment , you cannot get rid off cheaters in multiplayers games.
Unless you think your able to change human behaviour.

Only in all "their games" but it's been what 20 years, human behavior and no one responsible for not getting rid of cheaters permanently. They gladly take that new money for re-opened accounts. And people will keep giving it to them. Cheaters, makers or otherwise.

I dont think they are glad about the amount of profits they lose due to cheaters.

[76561198407601200]

Originally posted by CANCELCULTURE:

Originally posted by Fr4ntic:

Your saying Valve is the one responsible for not getting rid off cheaters in all games ?

Because thats what he ( must have ) ment , you cannot get rid off cheaters in multiplayers games.
Unless you think your able to change human behaviour.

Only in all "their games" but it's been what 20 years, human behavior and no one responsible for not getting rid of cheaters permanently. They gladly take that new money for re-opened accounts. And people will keep giving it to them. Cheaters, makers or otherwise.

If one is willing to spend more money to open an alt account to cheat again, that seems like their own issue they have to sort out (human behavior), they will simply continue to have the accounts banned and purchase the games again. Meanwhile anti-cheat developers will continue to improve and keep legit players on board while thinning out the cheaters.

[Fr4ntic]

Originally posted by CANCELCULTURE:

Originally posted by Fr4ntic:

Your saying Valve is the one responsible for not getting rid off cheaters in all games ?

Because thats what he ( must have ) ment , you cannot get rid off cheaters in multiplayers games.
Unless you think your able to change human behaviour.

Only in all "their games" but it's been what 20 years, human behavior and no one responsible for not getting rid of cheaters permanently. They gladly take that new money for re-opened accounts. And people will keep giving it to them. Cheaters, makers or otherwise.

So care to point out the game company that did manage to make their game 100% cheater free ?

[NemesisChaingunner]

VAC aint working? You better open your eyes and look through these forums.