Do Vac work as intended ?

[MAXE]

Well does it?

First of all, Vac is far too slow to get the cheaters banned!

Secondly, it doesn't take many minutes, then the cheaters that Valve has banned are cheating again on a new account!

Thirdly, Vac apparently doesn't work when players are cheating on game mechanics, such as Armor, Health, Hit Registration, Damage Taken, and more..

So just how effective is Vacnet really ?

From a scale of 0 to 10, where 10 is that vac works 100% flawless and keeps the cheaters away from our games and zero is that it dont work at all !

Well "sigh" there is my rating at the moment 0, zero, on that scale, because it aint working fast enough and it is ineffective against the roaming cheaters with multiple accounts that are allowed to create new accounts all the time !



The only real players left fighting cheaters, are people like me, who are trying so hard to get the cheaters out of our games!

But it is very hard, no it is impossible, when Valve indirectly works against us by not closing the gaps in Valve's account system that allow the cheaters to just create a new account and then cheat again !

So the whole anticheat vacnet system is pointless, When you put on my glasses and see what I see with this system !"

When Valve start listen to people like me, well, then that will be the time our games will become cheat-free again ..

Until that happens, then we're forced to live with people cheating in our games and ruin our online game experience.

It is so crazy that even the admins that control our official servers cheat in the game, I just saw it today in CS 2 !

Unfortunately

I really hope that Valve will do something more active to prevent people from cheating in our games !

Thanks in advance
Maxe

[.EteRnal.]

If VAC bans were not delayed it would help cheat developers better understand what function of their cheat is currently detected.

[Shaggy]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Do Vac work as intended ?

Yes, VAC is working as it should.

[Snivy]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Thirdly, Vac apparently doesn't work when players are cheating on game mechanics, such as Armor, Health, Hit Registration, Damage Taken, and more..

If players are abusing game mechanics, then that could only be grounds for a game ban nothing more. VAC only cares about cheats, not exploits.

[Günther Knue]

Bruh there are no admins for Valve servers.
Stop smoking stuff it's bad, mkay?

[MAXE]

Originally posted by .EteRnal.:

If VAC bans were not delayed it would help cheat developers better understand what function of their cheat is currently detected.

Well no .. VAC bans should not be delayed but instant instead !

Account creation should on the other hand have a better control that makes it alot harder to just create a new account !

personal id / registered gamer license would be the answer to that !

Allready existing accounts wont need that ..

That will prevent cheat developers from getting a deeper understanding on what function of their cheat that got detected !

The way valve handle the cheater issue in our games at the moment is just a big circus with clowns in a hamster wheel running after each other

If Valve would listen to me, then we wont have cheaters or cheat developers in our games !
if we did it would be very very limited like close to 0% rather than close to 100 !

[MAXE]

Originally posted by Günther Knue:

Bruh there are no admins for Valve servers.
Stop smoking stuff it's bad, mkay?

Dude when a player got a ping 0 or 1 = admin on the system !

[Shaggy]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Well no .. VAC bans should not be delayed but instant instead !

VAC bans are delayed for good reason.

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

You again? Didn't you already get laughed out of here once when everyone pointed out the massive issues with your "solutions" before?

[Snium.GcC]

Number of users.
Number of people online.
These are the sources of funding for the valve company.
They will not slash their own funds.

[MAXE]

Originally posted by Shaggy:

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Well no .. VAC bans should not be delayed but instant instead !

VAC bans are delayed for good reason.

There are no benefits or a particularly good idea to delay a vacban

When Valve allows users to create a new account without any conditions or monitoring that make it impossible for a cheater to repeat the process again, again and again !

The only true reason to delay a Vacban is to put money in the pockets of the cheat developers !

[Shaggy]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Originally posted by Shaggy:

VAC bans are delayed for good reason.

There are no benefits or a particularly good idea to delay a vacban

When Valve allows users to create a new account without any conditions or monitoring that make it impossible for a cheater to repeat the process again, again and again !

The only true reason to delay a Vacban is to put money in the pockets of the cheat developers !

Yes there is.. Read the first post.

[MAXE]

Originally posted by White Cabbage:

Number of users.
Number of people online.
These are the sources of funding for the valve company.
They will not slash their own funds.

Yeah well, then cheating industry should not be one of them !"

Not with its current system that is ..

If Valve want to have both kind of players, then atleast seperate them, so cheaters are on 1 server and the rest of us that dont cheat is on the servers that dont allow cheaters in !

We can do that with personal id demand to gain access to the servers that dont allow cheaters on them !

Allready created accounts wont need that, but will be asked for creditcard informations to identify yourself with instead ?

Same information you still have to provide when you want to buy a game on Steam !

I think it is a great idea !

[MAXE]

Originally posted by Shaggy:

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

There are no benefits or a particularly good idea to delay a vacban

When Valve allows users to create a new account without any conditions or monitoring that make it impossible for a cheater to repeat the process again, again and again !

The only true reason to delay a Vacban is to put money in the pockets of the cheat developers !

Yes there is.. Read the first post.

Read my last line !

[MAXE]

Originally posted by Snivy:

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Thirdly, Vac apparently doesn't work when players are cheating on game mechanics, such as Armor, Health, Hit Registration, Damage Taken, and more..

If players are abusing game mechanics, then that could only be grounds for a game ban nothing more. VAC only cares about cheats, not exploits.

it is called mod hacks .. it has been a part of the cheat engines for years, so you could get alot more armor than normal, more health, and first when that was shoot down the cheat engine would allow you to take the real dmg that was registered by the server .. !
Even punkbuster was able to detect it ..

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

Originally posted by Shaggy:

Yes there is.. Read the first post.

Read my last line !

So you want to make it easier for cheat developers to figure out if their cheats are still detected?