Valve not protecting honest players

[DoG-SoLdIeR - Kajsmentke 2EZ]

It is more than obvious that Valve knows who cheats and who is not. But they keep matching honest players against obvious cheaters. It doesnt matter how many times is cheater reported, Valve will not ban that player and allow him to play against honest players.

This concludes that Valve is supporting cheaters!

It also concludes their VAC is not working as intended and is indeed a joke for cheaters!

[IronKoalas]

Wock73 a écrit :

IronKoalas a écrit :

I feel like the OP is either misinformed about the VAC system or doesn't want to listen to the regulars such as me…...

You have been in this cesspool for 2 whole weeks, not a regular

I used to use an account a long time ago for Steam forums, now I got rid of that account and just use my main. I can't share what my old account was since it had part of my real name in it. Although I did take a break on the forums for awhile (so you could say I am not a regular because of that).

Silicon Vampire a écrit :

This is where I would interject "don't feed the troll"...

Agreed with the don't feed the troll part.

[IronKoalas]

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

NGC 371 a écrit :

Yeah, just looked at their post history and I see what you mean. You would think a Steam user this old would understand how VAC works compared to a 2019 Steam user (me), but I guess not.

Oh wow, no games. Great chat!

You really seem like a regular...

Now, do you have any actual usefull information in this matter or not?

Also I own many games... You can't see them since you are not my friend.

[Wock73]

NGC 371 a écrit :

Wock73 a écrit :

You have been in this cesspool for 2 whole weeks, not a regular

I used to use an account a long time ago for Steam forums, now I got rid of that account and just use my main. I can't share what my old account was since it had part of my real name in it. Although I did take a break on the forums for awhile (so you could say I am not a regular because of that).

Silicon Vampire a écrit :

This is where I would interject "don't feed the troll"...

Agreed with the don't feed the troll part.

Don’t get me wrong, we are cool and all, just noticed that contradiction and did a double take lol

[[aYo] lifan]

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[VaLiuM]

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

Care to show where I did say that?

Anything valuable that would disprove what I said in a first place?

Yet again someone who spent whole 6,6 hours in the game has a lot to say about it. :D Pathetic! :D

Looks like you have a short-term memory, for the second time i do this, this is what you wrote, in a VAC forum, mind you:

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

It doesnt matter how many times is cheater reported, Valve will not ban that player and allow him to play against honest players.

Also the 6.6 hours are not even playtime, just idling for the trading cards.

[Froggy]

VaLiuM a écrit :

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

Care to show where I did say that?

Anything valuable that would disprove what I said in a first place?

Yet again someone who spent whole 6,6 hours in the game has a lot to say about it. :D Pathetic! :D

Looks like you have a short-term memory, for the second time i do this, this is what you wrote, in a VAC forum, mind you:

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

It doesnt matter how many times is cheater reported, Valve will not ban that player and allow him to play against honest players.

Also the 6.6 hours are not even playtime, just idling for the trading cards. :csgoct:

Funny thing in regards to his comment about Valve allowing cheats.
While he doesn't have any banned cheaters in his friendslist, I took a quick look at the first friend in his list, he has 21/319 friends banned.
The second one I checked has 7/97 friends banned.

So yea... "vAlVe DoEsNt BaN cHeAtErS"......

[Pscht]

Spying on the friends of one's friends is a bit overkill. Going by that "six degrees of separation" thing, sooner or later most people are connected to banned profiles through no fault of their own.

[Froggy]

Pscht a écrit :

Spying on the friends of one's friends is a bit overkill. Going by that "six degrees of separation" thing, sooner or later most people are connected to banned profiles through no fault of their own.

I think you're misunderstanding. I'm not trying to pin any cheating or connect him to cheating.
I'm just proving that his claim that Valve allows cheating, and that Valve doesn't ban cheaters is complete and utter garbage of a lie. When the facts are staring him right in the face.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

C²C^Guyver |NZB| a écrit :

He does this from time to time, posting nonsense here and in the counter strike forums.

Ehm, maybe go and play the game bit longer to be able to tell me what and how works. :D

Just what exavtly are you thinking you doing? :D

Trolls like you are absolutely no bother to me. :D I have seen and heard it all. :D

VAC has nothing to do with society. Fixing society has nothing to do with VAC.
VAC is anticheat that is supposed to keep cheating individuals away from the VAC protected servers.

Apart from you I know quite a lot about not only VAC but also Counter-Strike games in general. So thank you for your concern, but I am good.

And exactly why would I keep comments from cheaters on my profile? Of course they will cry about me being toxic, that is all they have.

Now, will you please get some actual knowledge about the game and be productive member of this discussion?

Disagreeing with your incorrect statements, isn't trolling.

All you're doing is complaining about a subject that you know nothing about, which is anti-cheat systems and how they work.

As for my knowledge of the game, I've played Counter-Strike games longer than your account has existed.

2002

A cheater is a cheater, regardless of what game it is.

The screenshot of your ban on your profile also speaks volumes and not in a good way either. So I'm not quite sure why you're displaying it, it's certainly doesn't do you any favors.

[DoG-SoLdIeR - Kajsmentke 2EZ]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| a écrit :

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

Ehm, maybe go and play the game bit longer to be able to tell me what and how works. :D

Just what exavtly are you thinking you doing? :D

Trolls like you are absolutely no bother to me. :D I have seen and heard it all. :D

VAC has nothing to do with society. Fixing society has nothing to do with VAC.
VAC is anticheat that is supposed to keep cheating individuals away from the VAC protected servers.

Apart from you I know quite a lot about not only VAC but also Counter-Strike games in general. So thank you for your concern, but I am good.

And exactly why would I keep comments from cheaters on my profile? Of course they will cry about me being toxic, that is all they have.

Now, will you please get some actual knowledge about the game and be productive member of this discussion?

Disagreeing with your incorrect statements, isn't trolling.

All you're doing is complaining about a subject that you know nothing about, which is anti-cheat systems and how they work.

As for my knowledge of the game, I've played Counter-Strike games longer than your account has existed.

2002

A cheater is a cheater, regardless of what game it is.

The screenshot of your ban on your profile also speaks volumes and not in a good way either. So I'm not quite sure why you're displaying it, it's certainly doesn't do you any favors.

Incorrect statements? I don't see you in any way disproving any of my statements...

Do you have any evidence that will prove I do not know anything about the subject? Anything at all?

Your profile doesn't show or reflect that statement of yours. Maybe you should chose to use one that would support it?

And what my screenshot has to do with this toppic? Speaks volumes? No favours?
Are you clutching straws here? Maybe stay with the topic...

[DoG-SoLdIeR - Kajsmentke 2EZ]

VaLiuM a écrit :

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

Care to show where I did say that?

Anything valuable that would disprove what I said in a first place?

Yet again someone who spent whole 6,6 hours in the game has a lot to say about it. :D Pathetic! :D

Looks like you have a short-term memory, for the second time i do this, this is what you wrote, in a VAC forum, mind you:

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

It doesnt matter how many times is cheater reported, Valve will not ban that player and allow him to play against honest players.

Also the 6.6 hours are not even playtime, just idling for the trading cards.

Exactly where in that reply you quoted I said "its based"?

If you are going to quote someone on something, make sure that the quote contains what you say it does...

Now do us a favour and provide any facts. Provide us with any reasonable evidence that in-game reports are not connected in any way or form with VAC.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

C²C^Guyver |NZB| a écrit :

Disagreeing with your incorrect statements, isn't trolling.

All you're doing is complaining about a subject that you know nothing about, which is anti-cheat systems and how they work.

As for my knowledge of the game, I've played Counter-Strike games longer than your account has existed.

2002

A cheater is a cheater, regardless of what game it is.

The screenshot of your ban on your profile also speaks volumes and not in a good way either. So I'm not quite sure why you're displaying it, it's certainly doesn't do you any favors.

Incorrect statements? I don't see you in any way disproving any of my statements...

Do you have any evidence that will prove I do not know anything about the subject? Anything at all?

Your profile doesn't show or reflect that statement of yours. Maybe you should chose to use one that would support it?

And what my screenshot has to do with this toppic? Speaks volumes? No favours?
Are you clutching straws here? Maybe stay with the topic...

It's easily disproven. People cheat because they are human. You can have the best anti-cheat system in the world and people will still find a way to cheat and get around it. You can't fix the problem because it is not a cheating problem, it is a human problem.

Your topic? If you had bothered to search before making this topic you would know, that this has been discussed over and over and over for years. The conclusion is, just what I told you, you can't stop people from cheating.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/550/discussions/0/3175526477753942384/

That's just one thread. Would you like me to find others? Because there are many, many others.

One of the biggest mistakes that you can make in this forum, is to think that you're the first one to bring something to light. You aren't.

[76561199509697182]

Yes, I was banned for no reason, I didn't play with cheats.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

KoTeHoK_<3 a écrit :

Yes, I was banned for no reason, I didn't play with cheats.

Someone did and it doesn't matter who it was.

[DoG-SoLdIeR - Kajsmentke 2EZ]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| a écrit :

DoG-SoLdIeR - Cheater-Strike 2 a écrit :

Incorrect statements? I don't see you in any way disproving any of my statements...

Do you have any evidence that will prove I do not know anything about the subject? Anything at all?

Your profile doesn't show or reflect that statement of yours. Maybe you should chose to use one that would support it?

And what my screenshot has to do with this toppic? Speaks volumes? No favours?
Are you clutching straws here? Maybe stay with the topic...

It's easily disproven. People cheat because they are human. You can have the best anti-cheat system in the world and people will still find a way to cheat and get around it. You can't fix the problem because it is not a cheating problem, it is a human problem.

Your topic? If you had bothered to search before making this topic you would know, that this has been discussed over and over and over for years. The conclusion is, just what I told you, you can't stop people from cheating.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/550/discussions/0/3175526477753942384/

That's just one thread. Would you like me to find others? Because there are many, many others.

One of the biggest mistakes that you can make in this forum, is to think that you're the first one to bring something to light. You aren't.

Hold on, so what you are trying to say is that we have to start somehow getting rid of people? Because they cheat? Like exterminating them or what?

There are many speed cameras on the roads, that doesnt stop people from speeding either, does it.

So of course human behaviour is an issue. But there is not much to act as a deterrent to make them think twice before they turn the chats on.

What you proven with that link is that nothing changed ever since. That means, VAC system didnt improve much or enough.

Point here is that Valve makes good enough money that they could spend the right way to protect their customers and provide them services they promise.

But what to expect. They didnt spend money to improve gameplay, let alone cheat protection...