VAC Worship

[Raptor]

Unless you're getting paid to do so, People need to stop spamming this forum that all VAC bans that don't get "immediately" overturned are perfectly valid, AMD's Anti-Lag+ fiasco is proof of Valve's corporate favoritism and VACs failure as an effective anti-cheat.

According to Valve if you or ANYONE ELSE mistakenly runs a mod for VAC secured games that hooks into core files just like AMD's Anti-Lag+ did, You will get VAC banned and Valve support will tell you to pound sand.

However if a BIG corporation is the reason for your and thousands of other VAC bans, Valve will work tirelessly to make sure their software will cater to the corporation's demands.


If your steam account is breached by hackers Valve blames the user no matter the source which is unlike any other games service that I am signed up for or know off, I bet it would take a worldwide breach of multiple email services before Valve put in any effort to separate the innocent from the guilty.



Only posting here because Valve decided to remind me that I am banned from TF2 3000+ days ago, Which pissed me off again because I am innocent and do not deserve to be VAC banned.

[Shaggy]

The large majority of them are correct though. Incorrect bans are automatically removed. Accounts are not hacked, they are hijacked. Account security is your responsibility.

[Styx]

8+ years and still being salty is crazy, keep it up

Цитата допису Raptor:

If your steam account is breached by hackers Valve blames the user no matter the source which is unlike any other games service that I am signed up for or know off, I bet it would take a worldwide breach of multiple email services before Valve put in any effort to separate the innocent from the guilty.

not their problem

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

The anti lag+ was more like proof of vac working. I'm doubtful valve or anyone expected developers from AMD to release something that behaves just like a cheat would.

[Raptor]

Цитата допису Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

The anti lag+ was more like proof of vac working. I'm doubtful valve or anyone expected developers from AMD to release something that behaves just like a cheat would.

Ok and?
The users installed software that isn't a cheat but behaves like one, Normally the VAC bans would have stayed but because a big corporation like AMD made the software Valve will admit it was a "mistake" to VAC ban those players.

[Cathulhu]

And all bans due to that mistake were reversed. Everyone affected got unbanned.
And it wasn't even the last time Valve reversed bans.

[Hammer Of Evil]

a vac banned player gets zero say about how the anti cheat should or shouldn't work, and zero authority on who posts in a public forum.

none of you people should ever be discussing your bans here, especially one as old as yours.

more normal users should pipe up and counter your guys's strange desperate fake information campaign.

and you didn't change either, still here claiming fake news, doubling down on the lie.

but nah, scream at the top of your lungs for something you got caught doing.

Цитата допису Raptor:

Only posting here because Valve decided to remind me that I am banned from TF2 3000+ days ago, Which pissed me off again because I am innocent and do not deserve to be VAC banned.

you are not innocent, and stop spreading a fake story around.

your post is just hard cope, zero fact.

[76561198407601200]

Цитата допису Raptor:

Unless you're getting paid to do so, People need to stop spamming this forum that all VAC bans that don't get "immediately" overturned are perfectly valid, AMD's Anti-Lag+ fiasco is proof of Valve's corporate favoritism and VACs failure as an effective anti-cheat.

According to Valve if you or ANYONE ELSE mistakenly runs a mod for VAC secured games that hooks into core files just like AMD's Anti-Lag+ did, You will get VAC banned and Valve support will tell you to pound sand.

However if a BIG corporation is the reason for your and thousands of other VAC bans, Valve will work tirelessly to make sure their software will cater to the corporation's demands.


If your steam account is breached by hackers Valve blames the user no matter the source which is unlike any other games service that I am signed up for or know off, I bet it would take a worldwide breach of multiple email services before Valve put in any effort to separate the innocent from the guilty.



Only posting here because Valve decided to remind me that I am banned from TF2 3000+ days ago, Which pissed me off again because I am innocent and do not deserve to be VAC banned.

Essentially the same as your other post
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/3802778195615300901/

[Raptor]

Цитата допису Hammer Of Evil:

a vac banned player gets zero say about how the anti cheat should or shouldn't work, and zero authority on who posts in a public forum.

none of you people should ever be discussing your bans here, especially one as old as yours.

more normal users should pipe up and counter your guys's strange desperate fake information campaign.

and you didn't change either, still here claiming fake news, doubling down on the lie.

but nah, scream at the top of your lungs for something you got caught doing.

Цитата допису Raptor:

Only posting here because Valve decided to remind me that I am banned from TF2 3000+ days ago, Which pissed me off again because I am innocent and do not deserve to be VAC banned.

you are not innocent, and stop spreading a fake story around.

your post is just hard cope, zero fact.

Zero acknowledgement of the core point, You sound like a bought and paid for corporate shill hired to sling mud at anyone with a valid argument and reason to criticize VAC.
Valve could have chosen to not unban users of anti-lag+, Would you advocate that as the correct decision?

[Snivy]

Цитата допису Raptor:

Цитата допису Hammer Of Evil:

a vac banned player gets zero say about how the anti cheat should or shouldn't work, and zero authority on who posts in a public forum.

none of you people should ever be discussing your bans here, especially one as old as yours.

more normal users should pipe up and counter your guys's strange desperate fake information campaign.

and you didn't change either, still here claiming fake news, doubling down on the lie.

but nah, scream at the top of your lungs for something you got caught doing.




you are not innocent, and stop spreading a fake story around.

your post is just hard cope, zero fact.

Zero acknowledgement of the core point, You sound like a bought and paid for corporate shill hired to sling mud at anyone with a valid argument and reason to criticize VAC.
Valve could have chosen to not unban users of anti-lag+, Would you advocate that as the correct decision?

We're talking about alternative universes now, where things may or may not have happened? Why? What's the point?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

You're forgetting the time, that Valve came out and publicly acknowledged that VAC bans were applied by mistake. The game in question was Modern Warfare 2, an Activision game. You know what they (Valve) did? They gave affected users free copies of Left 4 Dead 2

Who are you to tell Valve when they should or shouldn't remove erroneous VAC bans?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Your ban is also correct or it would have been automatically removed a long time ago. The account was banned in 2014, it doesn't take that long to remove an incorrect VAC ban. Which is as I suspected before I read the last part of your first post, you're just angry because your ban will not be removed.

EDIT
You're also forgetting that your post history is public. As well as all the other excuses that you made in your other threads.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/3203744999877955775/

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/3203744999878783898/

Your excuse for making this thread is also incorrect as you don't need a reminder to know that your account is VAC banned. You can always see the red ban text on your profile, even though it is hidden from everyone else.

[Runkel]

Cheater dislikes VAC.
Color me shocked.

[Raptor]

So basically Valve only makes a mistake when they admit they made a mistake otherwise its not a mistake. Can't beat that circular argument with facts or logic.

Also my VAC ban theories have never changed, My situation makes me suspect it could have been bad ram as Easy Anti-Cheat was giving file validation errors at the time. I believe the more likely explanation is the TF2 "Bot Control Mod" (renamed to "TF2 Bot Overhaul Mod") I had installed in the days prior to the VAC ban contained files that hooked into core .dll files.

Makes sense as running the half-life mods "Cry of Fear" and "Afraid of Monsters" in then current mod format would trigger a VAC ban for the same reason and I believe everyone who got a a VAC for that still has it in place. Doesn't matter that they can provide the files directly responsible for the ban.

Why is that ban valid while Anti-Lag+'s is not? Both users unwittingly installed files that hooked into core game files secured by VAC just like a cheat would, Yet one stays in place and the other is overturned. Nobody has answered this, Unless you count mudslinging.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Цитата допису Raptor:

So basically Valve only makes a mistake when they admit they made a mistake otherwise its not a mistake. Can't beat that circular argument with facts on logic.

Also my VAC ban theories have never changed, My situation makes me suspect it could have been bad ram as Easy Anti-Cheat was giving file validation errors at the time. I believe the more likely explanation is the TF2 "Bot Control Mod" (renamed to "TF2 Bot Overhaul Mod") I had installed in the days prior to the VAC ban contained files that hooked into core .dll files.

Makes sense as running the half-life mods "Cry of Fear" and "Afraid of Monsters" in then current mod format would trigger a VAC ban for the same reason and I believe everyone who got a a VAC for that still has it in place.

Bad hardware does not cause a VAC ban. EAC has nothing to do with VAC and vice versa.

Also, if you had bothered to read any of the documentation on VAC bans, you are warned against installing modifications that may contain cheats.




Use caution when installing any game modifications like scripts or custom skins, and only download custom content from trusted sources. Hackers may maliciously disguise their cheats to cause others to get banned.
For more information on how you can protect yourself and your account, please refer to our Account Security Recommendations help article.

Additional information on Valve's policies can be found in our Steam Subscriber Agreement

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/571A-97DA-70E9-FF74#avoidvac

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

You're also reading incorrectly. Erroneous VAC bans are not just removed when Valve comes out and makes a statement.

The bans are automatically removed by the system itself. You've had years to read all of this information.


Can I appeal my VAC ban?
No. VAC bans cannot be appealed. If a VAC ban is issued incorrectly it will be automatically removed after investigation, but Steam Support does not manually remove VAC bans applied to accounts for any reason.


https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#appeal

Changing your story two or three times in this thread, does not change the answer.


I'll go ahead and answer your question. The truth? Most likely because Valve was feeling generous. They didn't have to remove those anti-lag bans.

Valve even tells developers to use dummy accounts when they are testing to see if VAC works in their game. A couple of developers used their main accounts and got them banned. Guess what? Valve didn't remove those bans.