A new vac when?
Soo... They keep make new counter-strike games ect!
But a new vac!? Hell noooo, that's too much to ask for,
let's keep our old dusty one from 2002, give it a update
& call it a day, right?

Oh oh but we have updated our software, sir!
Last serious update for our anti cheat was back in 2018 if i remember
it by introducing a overwatch system in cs:go and it worked wonderful
alot of players contributing alot of their time and effort to report and game
ban cheating players!
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Cathulhu Oct 19, 2023 @ 2:49pm 
VAC is constantly updated and improved. It's not even remotely the same version Valve started with about two decades ago.
Wolf Knight Oct 19, 2023 @ 2:50pm 
spamming is not a good idea

vac is updated regularly, valve has no reason to tell people when it is updated nor what has changed. that only helps the cheaters and cheat makers.

if you think making and maintaining an anti cheat is so easy, go make one.
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
VAC is constantly updated and improved. It's not even remotely the same version Valve started with about two decades ago.
Who cares it was still made in 2002. That over 20 years!
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
spamming is not a good idea

vac is updated regularly, valve has no reason to tell people when it is updated nor what has changed. that only helps the cheaters and cheat makers.

if you think making and maintaining an anti cheat is so easy, go make one.
It's not about what i "think" it's about what can be done today in this present rather than what was possible back in year 2002. Times has changed. Maybe hire Elon musk im sure he can come up with a better anti cheat than what was made in 2002!
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Cathulhu Oct 19, 2023 @ 2:54pm 
Firefox is almost 20 years old and pretty much every bit of code has been replaced over the years.

Ever heard of the ship of Theseus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

It's pretty much the same with VAC.
The product is still called VAC, but the software in itself is vastly different from what it has been.
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
Firefox is almost 20 years old and pretty much every bit of code has been replaced over the years.

Ever heard of the ship of Theseus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

It's pretty much the same with VAC.
The product is still called VAC, but the software in itself is vastly different from what it has been.
What has some ancient folklore/myth to do with vac :steamfacepalm:
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Cathulhu Oct 19, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
And with such a statement you disqualified yourself from any serious discussion.
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
And with such a statement you disqualified yourself from any serious discussion.
Nah i think you have to wake up from your sleep. When games are cheater infested and vac works but it cannot beat the masses using the cheats. Then it is a problem. Also last time they did any serious matter was what, in year 2018/2017 by introducing "overwatch" which still was a waste of legit players time. That's not a good anti cheat pal.. Its more a outdate one than ever! Cs:go forexample has been cheater infested for years, you can try and deny that all u want but stats show otherwise.
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.EteRnal. Oct 19, 2023 @ 6:32pm 
The cheat definitions are updated all the time. Why create a new system when there is already one that works?
Last edited by .EteRnal.; Oct 19, 2023 @ 6:32pm
Originally posted by The Enemies Friend!:
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
And with such a statement you disqualified yourself from any serious discussion.
Nah i think you have to wake up from your sleep. When games are cheater infested and vac works but it cannot beat the masses using the cheats. Then it is a problem. Also last time they did any serious matter was what, in year 2018/2017 by introducing "overwatch" which still was a waste of legit players time. That's not a good anti cheat pal.. Its more a outdate one than ever! Cs:go forexample has been cheater infested for years, you can try and deny that all u want but stats show otherwise.
You didn't do research on the subject before making this thread.

VAC has always been constantly updated without any official announcements. Gabe himself said the purpose is not to make a full cheat-proof system, that's not going to happen. But to make cheat development expensives for the majority of players

Not sure exactly when, but VAC is now operating at the kernel level. Application-level cheats are no longer a problem, and kernel-level cheats are very expensive to make. That's already stopped a massive number of casual cheaters, even if you can't see that.

Don't be a frog in the well.
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