Is it possible to ever get your vac ban removed

[Macbeth]

Just curious. I see so many people with vac bans going back from when dinosaurs existed. Are they all just screwed forever. Is there any possible method to get it unbanned in some possible way?

Do vac unbans ever happen?

Also before you ask, no im not vacbanned

[Wolf Knight]

only falsely applied vac bans get removed. false = vac misidentified something as a cheat

a correctly applied vac ban is PERMANENT, no appeals

[Cathulhu]

All VAC bans are permanent.
A VAC ban is only removed if the detection of a cheat was an actual mistake.
Such false positive bans are usually removed within the first few days or weeks after the ban.

[Hammer Of Evil]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

Just curious. I see so many people with vac bans going back from when dinosaurs existed. Are they all just screwed forever. Is there any possible method to get it unbanned in some possible way?

Do vac unbans ever happen?

Also before you ask, no im not vacbanned

they are banned for life. only cheaters have spread the false rumor that appeals process happens, and a lot of others also contribute to misinformation.

a lot of cheaters panic when they get banned and for some reason they associate the acronym VAC with BAN, so you get the flood of complaints here. reading comprehension lol.

unbans do not happen.

the vac system undergoes review, and is confirmed for accuracy before it stays permanent. i believe this process is done before the player is even first aware the account is flagged for cheating.

I believe a large portion of the 'i was banned for nothing' threads are cheaters who forgot they cheated weeks prior (brain of a goldfish, unsurprising), or have grown so accustomed to cheating they don't think it's possible to be caught anymore, and then get surprisedpikachu when their cheat is detected and everyone in their community gets wiped out.

the delay in a ban is a wise tactic. although it takes longer to hit and show a result, it ends up catching the critical mass of cheaters in one shot. you catch so many more fish if you leave the net in the water longer. to boot, cheat makers can't zero in on when the anti cheat received an update, so they're unable to adapt the cheats.

i think a more elegant solution exists, but i'm interested to see what valve has planned for the engine update / new version overhaul for counterstrike.

as a sidenote, its easy to review the xml document on a player's community profile. even if a profile is set to private, the current VAC status is always public, one should not have any doubts about you.

-regards.

[Macbeth]

Interesting stuff. If you asked me, I feel like there should eventually be some end to a ban. Even killers get out of jail eventually. I mean after 10 years, i feel thats a just enough punishment

[Wolf Knight]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

Interesting stuff. If you asked me, I feel like there should eventually be some end to a ban. Even killers get out of jail eventually. I mean after 10 years, i feel thats a just enough punishment

they already tried temp bans, they did nothing. the cheaters waited till the ban expired and went right back to cheating on the account

[Wiawyr]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

Interesting stuff. If you asked me, I feel like there should eventually be some end to a ban. Even killers get out of jail eventually. I mean after 10 years

Cheaters can make a new account the very same day. Anyone who plays on a VAC banned account is making the conscious decision to do so.

[Cathulhu]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

Interesting stuff. If you asked me, I feel like there should eventually be some end to a ban. Even killers get out of jail eventually. I mean after 10 years, i feel thats a just enough punishment

Temporary bans were tried. Cheaters just rotated through their accounts. All VAC bans are permanent since 2005.

[ุ]

Originally posted by Wiawyr:

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

Interesting stuff. If you asked me, I feel like there should eventually be some end to a ban. Even killers get out of jail eventually. I mean after 10 years

Cheaters can make a new account the very same day. Anyone who plays on a VAC banned account is making the conscious decision to do so.

Plus there's a market for accounts, removing the ban enables that market. Meaning a lot of older accounts would be bought and sold (many are as is), just to be cheated on again.

[Ducks on Fire]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

Interesting stuff. If you asked me, I feel like there should eventually be some end to a ban. Even killers get out of jail eventually. I mean after 10 years, i feel thats a just enough punishment

First off going to jail and being banned from using an account to play a video game are not even remotely comparable. Second plenty of killers don't actually get out of jail eventually. Some are even executed, which is about as permanent as it gets.

[Macbeth]

yeah but dude 10 years is a long time lol im just saying maybe after 10 years id go hmm maybe i wont cheat anymore id be 33 prob with like 2 kids and my kids will start asking why im vacbanned if they saw it (if i did cheat)

[Cathulhu]

The longest temporary ban Valve tried was 8 years. Even those didn't work. Neither did banning for 1 or 5 years that Valve tried prior to that. Why do you think 10 would work better?
So far a permanent ban has shown to be the only kinda efficient method.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

yeah but dude 10 years is a long time lol im just saying maybe after 10 years id go hmm maybe i wont cheat anymore id be 33 prob with like 2 kids and my kids will start asking why im vacbanned if they saw it (if i did cheat)

Then make a new account, problem solved. Problem is: maybe you also go: "Hmm, my Ban is gone, time to cheat again!", which is what people did. Which is why VAC Bans are permanent.

[Wiawyr]

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

yeah but dude 10 years is a long time lol im just saying maybe after 10 years id go hmm maybe i wont cheat anymore id be 33 prob with like 2 kids and my kids will start asking why im vacbanned if they saw it (if i did cheat)

Originally posted by Wiawyr:

Cheaters can make a new account the very same day. Anyone who plays on a VAC banned account is making the conscious decision to do so.

[Macbeth]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

The longest temporary ban Valve tried was 8 years. Even those didn't work. Neither did banning for 1 or 5 years that Valve tried prior to that. Why do you think 10 would work better?
So far a permanent ban has shown to be the only kinda efficient method.

how could the 8 year ban be tested to work or not lol wasnt the perm vac ban stuff already enforced by then

[Macbeth]

Originally posted by Wiawyr:

Originally posted by 61e King-Macbeth:

yeah but dude 10 years is a long time lol im just saying maybe after 10 years id go hmm maybe i wont cheat anymore id be 33 prob with like 2 kids and my kids will start asking why im vacbanned if they saw it (if i did cheat)

Originally posted by Wiawyr:

Cheaters can make a new account the very same day. Anyone who plays on a VAC banned account is making the conscious decision to do so.

yeah so thats irrelevant info since ppl just make new accts anyway perm ban or not. I am just saying maybe if person X got finally unbanned after 10 years maybe hed consider not hacking on his main anymore

man imagine ppl would trade accts by the age of the vac ban if ppl rly did do that. it would be similar to trading bonds lol that would be a pretty interested underground market.