Life time VAC Bans is ridiculous
Not all people are perfect some people make mistakes and some are curious I believe a vac ban should be severe but not permanent. Like a ban for 5 months or a year. I am sure if anyone hacked and got a year's ban will never use the hack again. I think 5 month to 1-year ban is more than enough to enforce anti-cheat in csgo.

I am a vac banned and I used to cheat when I was depressed and down in life and I Yolo'ed everything up. Now I paid the price and lost my account. does that mean I will ever use the hack again? Nope never of course.
Not all people are stable.

#MakeVACNotPermanent
#MakeCSGOGreatAgain
Imagine how much player base can be regained after this.
Last edited by Tiger King Coin; Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:03pm
Originally posted by Wiawyr:
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are perfect some people make mistakes and some are curious I believe a vac ban should be severe but not permanent.
You don't need to be "perfect" to understand that cheating in a game where cheating isn't allowed is going to result in consequences. You only need the most basic reading skills.

"This server is VAC protected. Cheating will result in a permanent ban."
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Like a ban for 5 months or a year. I am sure if anyone hacked and got a year's ban will never use the hack again.
Luckily, Valve actually tried this in the past with temporary VAC bans. Because of this, we know that your certainly is wrong and uninformed. Temporarily-banned accounts were swapped around and used to cheat again as soon as their ban expired; it accomplished nothing.
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
I am a vac banned and I used to cheat when I was depressed and down in life and I Yolo'ed everything up. Now I paid the price and lost my account. does that mean I will ever use the hack again? Nope never of course.
Why "of course"? If you've already shown you're willing to make poor decisions like setting everything in your life on fire with no regards for the consequences, then you're exactly the kind of person who would cheat again and again. "Of course" you're permabanned on this account; you're a cheater.
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are stable.
But everyone here on the Internet has basic reading skills, which is, again, what is required to understand that cheating where cheating is not allowed is not a good idea. If you're claiming that you're so unstable that you shouldn't be held responsible for your own actions, then you should be seeking immediate psychiatric help and counseling, not playing video games.

Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
#MakeVACNotPermanent
#MakeCSGOGreatAgain
Imagine how much player base can be regained after this.
This isn't Twitter. The players that could be "regained" are cheaters, and have either made new accounts as they're allowed to do or have moved on from the game they cheated in. It's your choice which one you pick, but getting unbanned isn't one of your options.
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Wolf Knight Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:53pm 
vac bans used to be temporary. take a guess why they are now permanent.

your account has a GAME BAN, game bans are not vac bans and have nothing to do with vac nor this forum.
Last edited by Wolf Knight; Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:54pm
Wolf Knight Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
vac bans used to be temporary. take a guess why they are now permanent.

well it could be temp to more sever not perm.
they tried that already, it didnt work
Tiger King Coin Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
vac bans used to be temporary. take a guess why they are now permanent.

your account has a GAME BAN, game bans are not vac bans and have nothing to do with vac nor this forum.

It could be from Temp to more sever, not directly to perm.

Game BAN or VAC both are permanent same thing.
Tiger King Coin Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:

well it could be temp to more sever not perm.
they tried that already, it didnt work

Well csgo is still infested by hackers even with the perm bans,
Wolf Knight Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:58pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
vac bans used to be temporary. take a guess why they are now permanent.

your account has a GAME BAN, game bans are not vac bans and have nothing to do with vac nor this forum.

It could be from Temp to more sever, not directly to perm.

Game BAN or VAC both are permanent same thing.
completely different things. they only thing they share is the punishment. what earns them is completely different. game bans are for behavior, vac bans are for cheats being detected. using a cheat is not required to earn a vac ban.

if you wish to whine about csgo, you can do that in that games forum. vac bans being made temporary would change nothing for your account since its not vac banned
Last edited by Wolf Knight; Feb 14, 2023 @ 2:59pm
Tiger King Coin Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:

It could be from Temp to more sever, not directly to perm.

Game BAN or VAC both are permanent same thing.
completely different things. they only thing they share is the punishment. what earns them is completely different. game bans are for behavior, vac bans are for cheats being detected. using a cheat is not required to earn a vac ban.

if you wish to whine about csgo, you can do that in that games forum. vac bans being made temporary would change nothing for your account since its not vac banned

Its a discussion not whining, Whining is done when hoping to get what you want by nagging. I am not expecting my account to be back. I am just discussing this subject.

About the game ban yes I was caught cheating although i only used it 5 to 6 times but I did it.
Patroh Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are perfect some people make mistakes and some are curious.
You don't need to be punished to understand your wrongdoings and you don't have to feed your curiosity by conducting risky experiments on yourself. Imagination. Use it. Or look up some videos. Cheating is prohibited anyway so why bother testing something you are disallowed to use...
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
I am a vac banned and I used to cheat when I was depressed
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are stable.
This is not how to help yourself with your mental breakdowns. Better seek professional help.
Tiger King Coin Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by Patroh:
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are perfect some people make mistakes and some are curious.
You don't need to be punished to understand your wrongdoings and you don't have to feed your curiosity by conducting risky experiments on yourself. Imagination. Use it. Or look up some videos. Cheating is prohibited anyway so why bother testing something you are disallowed to use...
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
I am a vac banned and I used to cheat when I was depressed
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are stable.
This is not how to help yourself with your mental breakdowns. Better seek professional help.

not all people are perfect like you
Valeriya Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
#MakeVACNotPermanent
It had been done before, but the users didn't learn the lesson, lies everiday and multiple garbage accounts.
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
#MakeCSGOGreatAgain
It is, without cheaters.
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Imagine how much player base can be regained after this.
Imagine recovering banned users who can't wait to sell their skins and then reuse cheats, as happened in the past and still happens today on multiple garbage accounts.
Main reason for useless unlock requests.

Hashtags don't work here, you're not on twitter or other useless social networks.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:

Well csgo is still infested by hackers....


Your account is banned, so, what does that make you? And it's cheating, not hacking.

...and you're not discussing anything but your ban.

This forum is for discussion of the VAC system. It is not a place to discuss your ban or a place to try to appeal your ban. VAC bans cannot be appealed, anyway.

Your account isn't even VAC banned. So, total waste of time posting here.




Don't like the punishment? Don't break the rules. You didn't seem to care too much about the punishment when you made that "mistake"

Do you know what zero tolerance means?

You get the same second chance anyone else gets: Creating a new account and not breaking the rules again.
KWYIBO Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
NO... ridiculous is cheating and then crying and blaming steam for being penalized
C²C^Guyver |NZB| Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Originally posted by Patroh:
You don't need to be punished to understand your wrongdoings and you don't have to feed your curiosity by conducting risky experiments on yourself. Imagination. Use it. Or look up some videos. Cheating is prohibited anyway so why bother testing something you are disallowed to use...


This is not how to help yourself with your mental breakdowns. Better seek professional help.

not all people are perfect like you
Save it. The victim card doesn't work here.

Anyone make you break the rules? Nope...not at all. It was your choice.

Also, pretty shameful to use depression as an excuse.

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Also, this does not apply to your ban but:

Valve started working on a "long-term solution" for cheating in 2001. VAC's initial release was with Counter-Strike in 2002. During this initial release, the system only banned players for 24 hours. The duration of the ban was increased over time; players were banned for 1 year and 5 years, until VAC2 was released in 2005, when any new bans became permanent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat

People kept cheating so, permanent bans.

You can only blame yourself and your other fellow cheaters.

Everything has consequences, some consequences are permanent.

Lost the account? You have it. How do you think you made this thread?

Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
#MakeVACNotPermanent
#MakeCSGOGreatAgain
Imagine how much player base can be regained after this.

Yup.

Imagine them burning through their chance and cheating again...........

EDIT:

Also funny that people never search before making threads.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3492005739880332656/
Last edited by C²C^Guyver |NZB|; Feb 14, 2023 @ 4:10pm
C²C^Guyver |NZB| Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
LOL

Your profile:

Aug 17, 2022 @ 11:21am

"i got perm banned from cego cuz of cheating. screw this game i havent been playing it for 3 months now not planning to get back to it. it was one of my fav games but due to it being full of hackers i decided to use hack and get this acc banned for good. its time to move on. Thank you CSGO for past good memories, its time for you to rest in piece."

So much for "I cheat when I get depressed"

So, basically lying and using depression to try to get the account unbanned, because now you realize that getting the account "banned for good" wasn't a smart move in hindsight.
Last edited by C²C^Guyver |NZB|; Feb 14, 2023 @ 4:07pm
Ettanin Feb 14, 2023 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Not all people are perfect some people make mistakes and some are curious I believe a vac ban should be severe but not permanent. Like a ban for 5 months or a year. I am sure if anyone hacked and got a year's ban will never use the hack again. I think 5 month to 1-year ban is more than enough to enforce anti-cheat in csgo.

I am a vac banned and I used to cheat when I was depressed and down in life and I Yolo'ed everything up. Now I paid the price and lost my account. does that mean I will ever use the hack again? Nope never of course.
Not all people are stable.

#MakeVACNotPermanent
#MakeCSGOGreatAgain
Imagine how much player base can be regained after this.
Valve started working on a "long-term solution" for cheating in 2001. VAC's initial release was with Counter-Strike in 2002. During this initial release, the system only banned players for 24 hours. The duration of the ban was increased over time; players were banned for 1 year and 5 years, until VAC2 was released in 2005, when any new bans became permanent. VAC2 was announced in February 2005 and began beta testing the following month. On November 17, 2006, they announced that "new [VAC] technology" had caught "over 10,000" cheating attempts in the preceding week alone.

Game bans are a later thing, working similar as VAC, with the same consequences for rule violations. Overwatch and/or VACNet caught you.

Overwatch bans can also be given for incessant griefing. But since you admitted to cheating, I assume that is indeed the reason why you got it in the first place.

Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
vac bans used to be temporary. take a guess why they are now permanent.

your account has a GAME BAN, game bans are not vac bans and have nothing to do with vac nor this forum.

It could be from Temp to more sever, not directly to perm.

Game BAN or VAC both are permanent same thing.
You know what cheaters would do? Cycle accounts. Valve put a stop to that. Increasing the cost with each account used to cheat. That is also why game bans are permanent.



Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Originally posted by Wolf Knight:
they tried that already, it didnt work

Well csgo is still infested by hackers even with the perm bans,
And CSGO has three layers to fight it off: Machine learning, Overwatch and finally, VAC.
Bans are intentionally delayed to make it harder for cheaters and cheat developers to find out how they were caught. Also, by doing this with a delay, there is an intrinsic risk as it makes it impossible to test detection.

Overwatch judgements are inherently delayed as it takes 100 or more investigators to watch 8 rounds of the gameplay, and they have to reach a 100% unanimous conviction. If one of them said "insufficient evidence", a ban wouldn't be issued.

Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:
Originally posted by Patroh:
You don't need to be punished to understand your wrongdoings and you don't have to feed your curiosity by conducting risky experiments on yourself. Imagination. Use it. Or look up some videos. Cheating is prohibited anyway so why bother testing something you are disallowed to use...


This is not how to help yourself with your mental breakdowns. Better seek professional help.

not all people are perfect like you
Nobody is. Everyone has their strength and weaknesses.

Appealing is futile. If you cannot cope with the red text, create a new account and move on. That is the only option.
Last edited by Ettanin; Feb 14, 2023 @ 4:18pm
Originally posted by Tiger King Coin:

not all people are perfect like you

That doesn't work. That never works. Noone reds this and goes "gosh, maybe I am being to harsch? Expecting perfection and all, hm". That doesn't happen. Becasue of course it doesn't.

Expecting people not to cheat is not expecting perfection, it is expecting that other players adhere to the most simple and basic of rules insted of just crapping on everbody else.

Not cheating is the most simple thing in the world. I never did it and it was effortless.
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