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Can I be VAC banned for injecting non disruptive extensions into my game?
Hello everyone,

A friend of mine created a python interpreter that runs inside source games. (for making bots and stuff) Can I get vac banned for using this? I'll assume yes because VAC probably can't tell if it's a hack or not. I guess my real question is, will my main account be banned if I use this with my alt account?


I can provide the source if requested by a mod or valve employee.
(that is if my friend approves)
Last edited by LIVELAUGHLOVE; Apr 24, 2016 @ 7:59pm
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Grumpers Apr 24, 2016 @ 7:06pm 
I would stay away from anything that injects into core files. Sounds like trouble.
❤ Naraldor ❤ Apr 24, 2016 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by rone:
will my main account be banned if I use this with my alt account?
No
LIVELAUGHLOVE Apr 24, 2016 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Naraldor:
Originally posted by rone:
will my main account be banned if I use this with my alt account?
No

Can you provide me your source?
Kauldwin Apr 24, 2016 @ 11:03pm 
Your main account should not be banned if you use this with your alt account, provided that you completely remove every trace of it before logging in and connecting to a VAC server with your main account. VAC bans accounts, not people, computers, or IPs, so the only issue with having multiple accounts banned would be if you fail to properly remove cheat (or whatever this is) files before using a clean account. Generally speaking people recommend a reformat of your computer before attempting to connect to a VAC server with a clean account.

Personally, if I were you, I just wouldn't use questionable files even with an alt, because everybody makes a mistake sooner or later, and you'd be kicking yourself if you got your main account banned.
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LIVELAUGHLOVE Apr 24, 2016 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Kauldwin:
Your main account should not be banned if you use this with your alt account, provided that you completely remove every trace of it before logging in and connecting to a VAC server with your main account. VAC bans accounts, not people, computers, or IPs, so the only issue with having multiple accounts banned would be if you fail to properly remove cheat (or whatever this is) files before using a clean account. Generally speaking people recommend a reformat of your computer before attempting to connect to a VAC server with a clean account.

Personally, if I were you, I just wouldn't use questionable files even with an alt, because everybody makes a mistake sooner or later, and you'd be kicking yourself if you got your main account banned.


I planned to use this only on a dedicated box I had in which I would only have one steam user logging in. And I wouldn't really call a Python interpreter questionable. It just raised some flags about VAC for me because you have to inject an extension into the game. Also, can you link me where you got this information so I can be sure?
Last edited by LIVELAUGHLOVE; Apr 24, 2016 @ 11:31pm
t0 Apr 25, 2016 @ 1:25am 
Asked can he get vacd then says a friend of his then back to himself

Which is it
LIVELAUGHLOVE Apr 25, 2016 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Asked can he get vacd then says a friend of his then back to himself

Which is it

What?

I would be using the 'hack' on my alt account. I'm asking if my main will be banned for doing so. The 'hack' in question is just a python interpreter that can interact with chat and send audio through the microphone, view data on players, et cetera.
ZanyScum Apr 25, 2016 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Asked can he get vacd then says a friend of his then back to himself

Which is it

Do you have reading problems?
t0 Apr 25, 2016 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by ZanyScum:
Originally posted by Wolfy:
Asked can he get vacd then says a friend of his then back to himself

Which is it

Do you have reading problems?

Are you autistic?
BossGalaga Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by rone:
Can I be VAC banned for injecting

"Injecting" being the keyword. The answer to your question being...YES. Attempting to alter the game files or memory of a VAC secured game can trigger a VAC ban on whatever active account it is triggered on.

You can make 50 accounts if you want to test your "friend's" "python interpreter for making bots and stuff." Only an active account that triggers a VAC ban will get a VAC ban.
LIVELAUGHLOVE Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by rone:
Can I be VAC banned for injecting

"Injecting" being the keyword. The answer to your question being...YES. Attempting to alter the game files or memory of a VAC secured game can trigger a VAC ban on whatever active account it is triggered on.

You can make 50 accounts if you want to test your "friend's" "python interpreter for making bots and stuff." Only an active account that triggers a VAC ban will get a VAC ban.

Source?

And listen, I'm not hiding anything here. It is a hack (in terms of injecting files) and I know it can and will probably trigger a VAC ban, and I will be ready to accept it. I just really want clarification on whether Valve will look for my main account and try to ban it, as I've heard of csgo players getting their main accounts banned for hacking (with real hacks) on alts.
Last edited by LIVELAUGHLOVE; Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:15am
Theblaze Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:17am 
VAC is automated.

People get VAC banned on their alternate Steam Accounts because they simple didn't do their research regarding how cheats work and how to uninstall them correctly.
BossGalaga Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by rone:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

"Injecting" being the keyword. The answer to your question being...YES. Attempting to alter the game files or memory of a VAC secured game can trigger a VAC ban on whatever active account it is triggered on.

You can make 50 accounts if you want to test your "friend's" "python interpreter for making bots and stuff." Only an active account that triggers a VAC ban will get a VAC ban.

Source?

And listen, I'm not hiding anything here. It is a hack (in terms of injecting files) and I know it can and will probably trigger a VAC ban, and I will be ready to accept it. I just really want clarification on whether Valve will look for my main account and try to ban it, as I've heard of csgo players getting their main accounts banned for hacking (with real hacks) on alts.

That is simply NOT how VAC works.

Those cheaters you "heard" that got their main accounts banned for hacking, probably forgot they had their hacks enabled or forgot which account they were playing on and the idiots got banned...or just thought they could get away with it. Everyone has a sob story.

Let's say you have this "cheat." You have two accounts. You login to account A with the cheat on. Nothing will happen. You start up CSGO with the cheat on. Nothing will happen. You enter a VAC secured server with the cheat on. (If you're not running in insecure mode, all servers/games are VAC secured) If the cheat is detected by VAC, it WILL trigger a VAC ban. Let's say it is and account A is VAC banned.

You *could* get a VAC ban on account B if this cheat was still enabled and still active in memory. However, as long as it is disabled and not actively "hooked" into CSGO, then there is nothing for VAC to trigger on.

If your cheat has altered game files then you will need to delete them and/or reinstall/revalidate CSGO.

Now, I've been around Steam for a while. 12 years...NO VAC BANS. Now, you could take my word for it. Or you could take the word of what you "heard" from some anonymous cheaters.
Last edited by BossGalaga; Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:46am
ReBoot Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:55am 
Why injecting anything into the game at all? Why not creating a plugin using the official API instead of injecting?
J4MESOX4D Apr 25, 2016 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by rone:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

"Injecting" being the keyword. The answer to your question being...YES. Attempting to alter the game files or memory of a VAC secured game can trigger a VAC ban on whatever active account it is triggered on.

You can make 50 accounts if you want to test your "friend's" "python interpreter for making bots and stuff." Only an active account that triggers a VAC ban will get a VAC ban.
I just really want clarification on whether Valve will look for my main account and try to ban it
Valve don't 'look' at accounts and ban them. VAC is an automated software that detectes forbidden core file modifications or known cheats on a device when connected to a VAC secure server. The account that was connected is then banned.

Originally posted by rone:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

"Injecting" being the keyword. The answer to your question being...YES. Attempting to alter the game files or memory of a VAC secured game can trigger a VAC ban on whatever active account it is triggered on.

You can make 50 accounts if you want to test your "friend's" "python interpreter for making bots and stuff." Only an active account that triggers a VAC ban will get a VAC ban.
I've heard of csgo players getting their main accounts banned for hacking (with real hacks) on alts.
Nope; they get banned because their device still has cheats or forbidden core file modifications residing on there so when they sign into their main and connect to a VAC secure server; their account gets banned as they didn't effectively remove all cheats and their traces by doing a full reformat of the device. It's called a double-whammy ban where they get burned twice and tonnes of players have fallen for it. In the end; both accounts get banned because both accounts were connected to a VAC secure server on a device where cheats were present regardless if they were active or used at the time.
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