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idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 12:45pm
Singleplayer Half-Life 2 VAC?
Hi, I'm idiotican. I've been developing cheats for the Unreal Engine for about a year now, and I'm ready to bring it to the Source Engine (only in single-player. I don't cheat in multiplayer games cause it's rude). I'm wondering if you can get VAC banned from using hacks in Single-player in Half-Life 2. This may be a stupid question, but I'm trying to collect some information on Source. Some people said that they were banned from hacking in single-player Source games, and I want to know if that's true. I don't want to put my account at risk.
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idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 12:46pm 
Before you type YOU DON'T NEED AIMBOT IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME NOOB GET SOME SKILL. It's just a hobby of mine. It expands what you can do in the game apart from aimbot, which kind of ruins the game. But it's fun for me.
ReBoot Jul 21, 2016 @ 12:54pm 
Why not just use console cheats?
Beardface31 Jul 21, 2016 @ 1:03pm 
You won't be banned playing single player; no VAC secure server. Just be sure they are off/ uninstalled before entering a VAC server on any other game, such as Half-Life 2 Deathmatch.
Last edited by Beardface31; Jul 21, 2016 @ 1:04pm
idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by Turkish Bandaid:
You won't be banned playing single player; no VAC secure server. Just be sure they are off/ uninstalled before entering a VAC server on any other game, such as Half-Life 2 Deathmatch.
Thank you for actually helping me. I just wanted to know if those were rumors or not.
Commander Makara Jul 21, 2016 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by idiotican:
Hi, I'm idiot... I've been developing cheats... I'm ready to bring it to the Source Engine

Admitting on Valve's own discussion boards how you flaunt your violation of your contractual obligation with Valve and expect help with doing so?
account reported as per request.

You agree that you will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats.

____________________________

who the ♥♥♥♥ is this ♥♥♥♥

I'm idiotican and I cheat in games
If anybody wants to hack with me, go to my alt right here

why the ♥♥♥♥ do you cheat, ♥♥♥♥♥♥

it's fun

you find other people's suffering fun? douchebag

different people have different types of entertainment, all right? you are choosing to let yourself suffer. you can go to another server instead of suffering. it's not that hard, but in the mean-time, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up.
Also your invitation "Does anybody wanna rape casual with me?"
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/idioticangroup#announcements/detail/817784596913736160

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but this and many of your interactions with other online multiplayer game players really seem to suggest that you do not restrict cheatig from multiplayer games as you mention in your post:
I don't cheat in multiplayer games cause it's rude).
Last edited by Commander Makara; Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:07pm
Beardface31 Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
You agree that you will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats.

I'm fairly certain that part of the SSA is regarding to online play. Many games have built in cheats, and mods could be considered cheats in some cases.
Last edited by Beardface31; Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:10pm
Commander Makara Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by Turkish Bandaid:
Originally posted by Commander Makara:

I'm fairly certain that part of the SSA is regarding to online play. Many games have built in cheats, and mods could be considered cheats in some cases.

The definition of cheat is given in the same document. FOr someone who claims to have read and accepted it, you seem rather ignorant of the detail:
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/365172547940857079/

Anyway, if you bothered to read you will also note that despite claiming only "single player", there seems to be a definite interest and history in cheats and developing cheats for online multiplayer games.
Beardface31 Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
Originally posted by Turkish Bandaid:

I'm fairly certain that part of the SSA is regarding to online play. Many games have built in cheats, and mods could be considered cheats in some cases.

The definition of cheat is given in the same document. FOr someone who claims to have read and accepted it, you seem rather ignorant of the detail:
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/365172547940857079/

Anyway, if you bothered to read you will also note that despite claiming only "single player", there seems to be a definite interest and history in cheats and developing cheats for online multiplayer games.

Give that section a good read again: 4. ONLINE CONDUCT, CHEATING AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR.

It really only applies when cheats are used "to give a player an unfair competitive advantage when playing multiplayer versions of any Content and Services or modifications of Content and Services"
Last edited by Beardface31; Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:31pm
Commander Makara Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:42pm 
So many people terying to argue a point despite it being clearly explained (if you actually bothered to read text in entirety rther than choice snippets padded with personal, idealised interpretation) so the topic digresses into a lesson in how to read and digest literal information rather than assumer and presume from incomplete understanding.

I gave at least one entire paragraph to describe the importance of the word "may" and provided a suitable analogy to explain the relevance of the online play reference. *

It is recommended YOU actually take the time to read the post linked properly.*

You also seem to neglecvt the ffact that the OP expresses clear desires to and historically has use of cheats in online multiplayer games, despite the title of this topic.
Therefore any arguments regarding the definition and its applicability to online or offline games are moot. Any cheats developed for offline play are suitable as cheats for online play, there is no distinction in the approach nor content, only the application and execution, as such, the creation of cheats irrepspective of the intent or suggested employment is the same for sinlge player or multiplayer, since the engine (in this case, Source) is one and the same for eeither single or multiplayer games.
When considerting an engine such as Source, which provides single or multiplayer platform, there is no "single player cheat creation" nor is there "multiplayer cheat creation" - there is "cheat creation".
So please stop inventing pointless arguments, read the ACTUAL CONTENT of the thread and relevant material, then if you seek to discuss a point, do so with intelligence and logic, not flawed opinion and lack of reasoning.


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(Because fiollowing a link is clearly too much effort/difficult for you)

3) "give a player an unfair competitive advantage when playing multiplayer versions "
There is a subtle but impoortant abiguity in this clause particularly concerning the presence and employment of the word "when".

An analogy is such like a gun being considered a lethal weapon.

Regardless of whether that particualr gun is loaded, fired, has ever been or will ever be used to kill, it is regarded as a "LETHAL WEAPON" due to it having the potential to be shoudl it be loaded and shot and used to kill.
A "cheat" has potential to provide an unfair advantage should it ever be used in a multiplayer environment. Even if that cheat is not used n such and if detected outside of such na environment, it is still the same cheat with the same potential. Therefore, fully covered bythe definition.
Last edited by Commander Makara; Jul 21, 2016 @ 4:49pm
idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
Originally posted by idiotican:
Hi, I'm idiot... I've been developing cheats... I'm ready to bring it to the Source Engine

Admitting on Valve's own discussion boards how you flaunt your violation of your contractual obligation with Valve and expect help with doing so?
account reported as per request.

You agree that you will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats.

____________________________

who the ♥♥♥♥ is this ♥♥♥♥

I'm idiotican and I cheat in games
If anybody wants to hack with me, go to my alt right here

why the ♥♥♥♥ do you cheat, ♥♥♥♥♥♥

it's fun

you find other people's suffering fun? douchebag

different people have different types of entertainment, all right? you are choosing to let yourself suffer. you can go to another server instead of suffering. it's not that hard, but in the mean-time, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up.
Also your invitation "Does anybody wanna rape casual with me?"
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/idioticangroup#announcements/detail/817784596913736160

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but this and many of your interactions with other online multiplayer game players really seem to suggest that you do not restrict cheatig from multiplayer games as you mention in your post:
I don't cheat in multiplayer games cause it's rude).
All right dude. I just came back from Tim Hortons, and I want to respond, which will probably be wasting my precious time, but this is somewhat a type of entertainment for me. To be honest, I think that you were being stupid and extremely bias against me in your statements. I do not want to offend you, or break any of the rules and regulations of the Steam Discussions. I was merely asking a question if you can get VAC banned from cheating in single-player games. I never said I hack on multiplayer accounts on this account. Occasionally I cheat on different accounts, and the way you're putting your words is making it seem like I hack on this account. I do hack, but on single-player Unreal Engine games on this account. Text is no reason to be banned by VAC. There are only three ways to get VAC banned. Cheating on VAC-secured servers, having the same phone number as a banned user, and an account you were family sharing with getting banned. Text is no way of getting banned. I can go on the Discussions and type I'M A CHEATER VAC BAN ME, and I will still not get VAC banned. Perhaps I could get community-banned, but I do not believe there is a rule against merely saying that you cheat in the Steam Discussions. Also bud, VAC bans do not take place based on reports, so reporting me is useless. Take it from Valve:

VAC does not ban based on reports. Such data is only used for tracking and statistics purposes.

And to be honest, yes I did lie to cover my ego at first, because salty kids like you get mad at multiplayer game cheaters, and nobody would answer my question if I said that I hacked in multiplayer games. I have to go work on my car, I'll see you in a few hours (after I debunk some other statements).
idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by Commander Makara:
Originally posted by Turkish Bandaid:

I'm fairly certain that part of the SSA is regarding to online play. Many games have built in cheats, and mods could be considered cheats in some cases.

The definition of cheat is given in the same document. FOr someone who claims to have read and accepted it, you seem rather ignorant of the detail:
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/365172547940857079/

Anyway, if you bothered to read you will also note that despite claiming only "single player", there seems to be a definite interest and history in cheats and developing cheats for online multiplayer games.
yes i think cheating in multiplayer games in being a jerk, but it's fun to do it occasionally. I try not to ruin people's fun all the time. I go on my alt every few monthes.
76561198001062896 Jul 21, 2016 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by idiotican:
Originally posted by Commander Makara:

The definition of cheat is given in the same document. FOr someone who claims to have read and accepted it, you seem rather ignorant of the detail:
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/365172547940857079/

Anyway, if you bothered to read you will also note that despite claiming only "single player", there seems to be a definite interest and history in cheats and developing cheats for online multiplayer games.
yes i think cheating in multiplayer games in being a jerk, but it's fun to do it occasionally. I try not to ruin people's fun all the time. I go on my alt every few monthes.


Well then, I hope you wont mind getting your account banned occasionally too


Also you really need to stop using potty language. Telling people not to ne autistic is not a comparison, its being rude and quite frankly childish.

PS; thanks for basically labelling people with autism as stupid, very mature (coming from someone with aspergers)
idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by Zetikla:
Originally posted by idiotican:
yes i think cheating in multiplayer games in being a jerk, but it's fun to do it occasionally. I try not to ruin people's fun all the time. I go on my alt every few monthes.


Well then, I hope you wont mind getting your account banned occasionally too


Also you really need to stop using potty language. Telling people not to ne autistic is not a comparison, its being rude and quite frankly childish.

PS; thanks for basically labelling people with autism as stupid, very mature (coming from someone with aspergers)
All right dude. Instead of this being a battle of idiocy, it's now a general argument. Sorry about your illness. I had no intention to offend anybody. Do you want some TF2 weapons for free, bud? I didn't know you had aspergers.
idiotican Jul 21, 2016 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by Zetikla:
Originally posted by idiotican:
yes i think cheating in multiplayer games in being a jerk, but it's fun to do it occasionally. I try not to ruin people's fun all the time. I go on my alt every few monthes.


Well then, I hope you wont mind getting your account banned occasionally too


Also you really need to stop using potty language. Telling people not to ne autistic is not a comparison, its being rude and quite frankly childish.

PS; thanks for basically labelling people with autism as stupid, very mature (coming from someone with aspergers)
friend me and send me a trade request when I'm online
Zyra Jul 22, 2016 @ 1:06am 
Actually, their is vac if you use a way to host in Hl2, now, since you are using SP your fine... That or if your paranoid use a different account. I have proof that hl2 has vac and server support.. well, the game itself has server supprt.. The maps don't
My thread about vac in SP games
https://steamcommunity.com/app/400/discussions/0/365172547943218416/
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