can i get some clarrification please

[Hawk Tuah]

I'm about to use cheat engine to install a difficulty mod for kingdoms of alimor: reckoning. but before I even start to begin I just wanna make sure that it won't get me banned from VAC games. It's not like I'm even gonna have it open when I start up CSGO or whatever. Just going to use it this one time but I don't wanna get retroactively banned

[Donitsi]

I'm not exactly sure about this but somebody said he had cheat engine in his computer but never ran it and got banned. He claimed that he had never used the cheat engine.

I wouldn't risk it. Doesn't that game have any cheats that can be activated through console?

[Hawk Tuah]

I mean it's described in the readme as the way to install.

the mod is youngneil's heartcore mod

[Silicon Vampire]

as always, use at your own risk. you will not get a definitive answer. Valve does say what will or won't beyond what information is provided in the pinned thread here and in the support FAQ.

[Hawk Tuah]

oh i understand the mod now. it uses cheat engine to modify the game's values like monster damage, exp amount, game speed (attack speed)

people have said that theyve had CE running and just not hooked the vac enabled game (why the heck would you? lol) others have said that they've been banned with it running in the background, others have said that they just do a reboot to clear the memory to make sure VAC doesn't pick up on it.

as I understand it CE, and this is what it says on the wki is: is an open source memory scanner/hex editor/debugger created by Eric Heijnen ("Dark Byte") for the Windows operating system.

it's a program that lets you change values, that's it. it's not inherently evil and only used for cheating in MULTIPLAYER games. It can be used to change the written coded values in singleplayer games to, and in the case of the YSA mod for KoA:R it's actually improving the game by making it more difficult.

i'm not defending the program (CE), but I'm also saying that it doesn't seem to be made to be purely for cheating in MP games, gaining unfair advantages against others. In the case of SP it's just for the player. and it has the unintended, intended application of cheating in MP too.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

As long as you do not play a single vac enabled game, you have nothing to worry about. Go wild. If this is a one time affair, as in editing Amalur characters stats or money, make sure you get rid of cheat engine as soon as you're done. Uninstall it. Delete the exe, etc. The sotware itself is verified safe and is not malicious so a reformat is not neccessary.

Source: From a person who actually has experience with cheat engine, and has never been vac banned.

[Hawk Tuah]

jesus are you serious? maybe this Dark Byte guy and VAC/Evenbalance need to sit down and chat. like I was saying, people use the CE for cheating in mp games but the software it self isn't just meant for that. but instead the companies just kill anyone who uses it. and it's probably because there's no real way of knowing i guess.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

enis původně napsal:

jesus are you serious? maybe this Dark Byte guy and VAC/Evenbalance need to sit down and chat. like I was saying, people use the CE for cheating in mp games but the software it self isn't just meant for that. but instead the companies just kill anyone who uses it. and it's probably because there's no real way of knowing i guess.

What are you getting at? Use it in amalur, kill the cheat engine process in task manager and you're safe. If you dun goofed and left it run to play cs:go, you have no one else to blame but yourself. It doesn't matter how "safe" cheat engine is, it's Valve and whoever else running the system's rules. If you do not like the system rules, you best not enter the system.

[Hawk Tuah]

dun goofing would be attaching the hook to the cs go process

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

enis původně napsal:

dun goofing would be attaching the hook to the cs go process

Well if you get vac banned from just leaving it on, sucks to be you, I guess.

[Hawk Tuah]

I won't ever actually do that, i'll do a reboot before I join a vac enabled server, it would be crappy if i ever got banned for having CE on my comptuer as valve has no business scanning outside of the game files' location.

[ KARR™]

enis původně napsal:

.. valve has no business scanning outside of the game files' location.

So the fix to avoid all anti-cheats is to install it outside of each game files folder then...?

enis původně napsal:

people use the CE for cheating in mp games but the software it self isn't just meant for that. but instead the companies just kill anyone who uses it.

No it isn't. It's for single player games "Cheat Engine is an open source tool designed to help you with modifying single player games running under window so you can make them harder or easier depending on your preference". It's not made to be used in multi-player games, it's a cheat! Therefore it gets you banned if you use it in a multi player game.

[ReBoot]

I've used Cheat Engine in the past, in non-VAC games. Don't have a VAC ban. Draw conclusions yourself.

[Hawk Tuah]

it's hilarious how many misconceptions there are out there.

[Astori Heichalot]

enis původně napsal:

it's hilarious how many misconceptions there are out there.

alot of misconceptions, because alot of people dont actually use cheat engines.