VacBan

[GryKid# www.csgopot.com]

I got Vac but i dont use hack Plz Csgo i got vac PLZ i just use hack to minecraft for troll my friend and so i got vac in a offline server with bots and i dont have hack. im only 12 years old

[Albcatmastercat]

Cheating is morally wrong in the first place. Were you cheating on Minecraft because it lacked an Anti-Cheat system?
I have 2 things to say, one of those semi-relevant.
1. Cheats are malicious by nature. It might have come with something for CS:GO.
2.Laser-Guided Karma.

[budozero]

Hacked clients for Minecraft are the norm on anarchy servers, its allowed.
They wont get you banned in CSGO however.

[Albcatmastercat]

Nguyên văn bởi budozero:

Hacked clients for Minecraft are the norm on anarchy servers, its allowed.
They wont get you banned in CSGO however.

Allowed but still morally wrong, IMHO. Let's not tread there here, though, as thread de-railing is a bannable offense :s (Still a very good topic).

[budozero]

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

Allowed but still morally wrong, IMHO.

If its part of the server rules, its not really morally wrong. Regardless, there is no VAC for Minecraft, and besides perhaps realms, you can only be banned per server.

Its not thread derailing either. OP thinks a hacked client for Minecraft caused the VAC ban, so its fair to discuss, "VAC discussions".

[Albcatmastercat]

Nguyên văn bởi budozero:

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

Allowed but still morally wrong, IMHO.

If its part of the server rules, its not really morally wrong. Regardless, there is no VAC for Minecraft, and besides perhaps realms, you can only be banned per server.

Its not thread derailing either. OP thinks a hacked client for Minecraft caused the VAC ban, so its fair to discuss, "VAC discussions".

Ah, I see. Then I think it indeed should be discussed, so let's continue ^.^

I'd think that it is, by nature, morally wrong, but, if a server lets it, then why not?
However, cheats are malicious by nature (refer to my first post), so they can include something more as a no-good "Bonus". It might have been something such as an aimbot, which injected itself into OP's game files.

BTW, I think Minecraft has enough built-in cheats already xP

[budozero]

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

I'd think that it is, by nature, morally wrong, but, if a server lets it, then why not?

I agree its morally wrong to gain an advantage. But on an anarchy server using hacked clients is the norm and allowed. One of the oldest servers still around is an anarchy server.

Obviously on most MC servers it would not be allowed. Which brings up...

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

However, cheats are malicious by nature (refer to my first post), so they can include something more as a no-good "Bonus". It might have been something such as an aimbot, which injected itself into OP's game files.

THIS! Minecraft hacked clients dont do any injection or anything of that sort, its just a re-written java client, replacing, but not modifying the original client.

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

BTW, I think Minecraft has enough built-in cheats already xP

Only in creative mode :p

[Albcatmastercat]

Nguyên văn bởi budozero:

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

I'd think that it is, by nature, morally wrong, but, if a server lets it, then why not?

I agree its morally wrong to gain an advantage. But on an anarchy server using hacked clients is the norm and allowed. One of the oldest servers still around is an anarchy server.

Obviously on most MC servers it would not be allowed. Which brings up...

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

However, cheats are malicious by nature (refer to my first post), so they can include something more as a no-good "Bonus". It might have been something such as an aimbot, which injected itself into OP's game files.

THIS! Minecraft hacked clients dont do any injection or anything of that sort, its just a re-written java client, replacing, but not modifying the original client.

Nguyên văn bởi Albcatmastercat:

BTW, I think Minecraft has enough built-in cheats already xP

Only in creative mode :p

I'll separate those into 1, 2 and 3 for conveniency. Don't expect much from me though (as I am just here because I-Don't-Even-Know).
1. Anarchy servers seem to be catastrophic. All those modded clients, are they any fun?

2. The modded clients per se wouldn't, but what if there was a trojan virus which included a CS:GO Hack for no reason? A trojan recently infected my PC and went out hunting for recent files to corrupt and delete via chkdsk. Pretty useless if you ask me...

3. Wouldn't giving admin to everyone be akin to them having those clients?

[budozero]

If the community is based around it, it can be fun. A bit of chaos at times perhaps, but that would be part of the fun. If you gave people admin, they would have access to blocks, that could ruin things. But enjoy it or not, you are on equal terms (or can legally be) as other players, thats the main reason I think its OK.

To 2, If there is such a virus, and personally I doubt it, why attach it to a Minecraft hacked client rather then say, a CSGO cheat? If you wrote a virus to target CSGO, Minecraft would not be the best way to distribute it.

A corrupted exe and VAC detecting active cheat signatures in memory are very different. There are many legit ways to get corrupted files. Thats why steam has a method to verify and re-download files. If it caused bans, we would see a LOT more posts by people askinng for legitimate unbans.

[Albcatmastercat]

Nguyên văn bởi budozero:

If the community is based around it, it can be fun. A bit of chaos at times perhaps, but that would be part of the fun. If you gave people admin, they would have access to blocks, that could ruin things. But enjoy it or not, you are on equal terms (or can legally be) as other players, thats the main reason I think its OK.

To 2, If there is such a virus, and personally I doubt it, why attach it to a Minecraft hacked client rather then say, a CSGO cheat? If you wrote a virus to target CSGO, Minecraft would not be the best way to distribute it.

A corrupted exe and VAC detecting active cheat signatures in memory are very different. There are many legit ways to get corrupted files. Thats why steam has a method to verify and re-download files. If it caused bans, we would see a LOT more posts by people askinng for legitimate unbans.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying all that; I have no further questions nor topics at hand :s