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lucifer 2018年11月18日 5時16分
If someone uses an undetected cheat while it was undetected and it now gets detected, would the person be banned?
Title, I'm talking about CS:GO primarily by the way, although I know it probably works the same for all VAC Secure games. I'm interested to know how easy it would be for someone to pick up a cheat and drop it afterwards, if someone uses a private, UD cheat [lets say a whole year ago] but it only now gets detected, could they still be banned?


- A curious, concerned customer.
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J4MESOX4D 2018年11月18日 8時06分 
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
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You know exactly what my point is so don't play dumb.
God, you’re so ignorant and borderline dumb, it’s very clear you must be a bad player
No. I can spot cheat usage though stats trends that's all. Stop acting like a moronic child.

46% headshots (headshot hit-rate based on accuracy not kills) if legit makes you the number one player in the world despite your base accuaracy being slightly below average. It stinks of aimbot usage tailored to headshots previous and the fact you've created this type of thread says it all. Too bad you're not bright enough to realise the hole you've dug for yourself. Cheated achievements also.

Embarrassing really.
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lucifer 2018年11月18日 8時24分 
J4MESOX4D の投稿を引用：
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
God, you’re so ignorant and borderline dumb, it’s very clear you must be a bad player
No. I can spot cheat usage though stats trends that's all. Stop acting like a moronic child.

46% headshots if legit makes you the number one player in the world despite your base accuaracy being slightly below average. It stinks of an aimbot usage tailored to headshots previous and the fact you've created this type of thread says it all. Too bad you're not bright enough to realise the hole you've dug for yourself. Cheated achievements also.

Embarrassing really.
a 46% headshot percentage makes me the number one player in the world? How have you came up with that number? Lmfao. Also, the achievements was me downloading workshop maps to simply make my profile card look cooler as back then the gold medals were displayable, completely irrelevant to the topic of actual hacks you inject into the game, mentioning it and wording it like it's some sort of proof doesn't solidify your argument, it just makes you look stupid. As far as the thread thing goes, you're interpreting it as me being a cheater trying to figure out if I'm safe or not from what I can gather, when it's really just a thread out of curiousity but I guess I can't talk you out of your viewpoint, respectable but dissapointing knowing I'm a legit player and will always be a legit player.
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J4MESOX4D 2018年11月18日 8時36分 
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
J4MESOX4D の投稿を引用：
No. I can spot cheat usage though stats trends that's all. Stop acting like a moronic child.

46% headshots if legit makes you the number one player in the world despite your base accuaracy being slightly below average. It stinks of an aimbot usage tailored to headshots previous and the fact you've created this type of thread says it all. Too bad you're not bright enough to realise the hole you've dug for yourself. Cheated achievements also.

Embarrassing really.
a 46% headshot percentage makes me the number one player in the world? How have you came up with that number? Lmfao. Also, the achievements was me downloading workshop maps to simply make my profile card look cooler as back then the gold medals were displayable, completely irrelevant to the topic of actual hacks you inject into the game, mentioning it and wording it like it's some sort of proof doesn't solidify your argument, it just makes you look stupid. As far as the thread thing goes, you're interpreting it as me being a cheater trying to figure out if I'm safe or not from what I can gather, when it's really just a thread out of curiousity but I guess I can't talk you out of your viewpoint, respectable but dissapointing knowing I'm a legit player and will always be a legit player.
Not even pro players have a headshot hit-rate of 40%+. Also any rate that is 2x base accuracy is incredibly suspicious. 21% would be in the common 32-35% bracket; not 46% which means out of the mere 21% bullets you land; 46% are headshots despite the hitbox being 25% of the target.

Virtually all users confronted this way just own up or go quiet but you certainly like digging ye old hole.
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Gilga ™ |Yonaguni| 2018年11月18日 8時44分 
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
Also, the achievements was me downloading workshop maps.

This excuse doesn`t work, you cheated your achievements, period.
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lucifer 2018年11月18日 8時48分 
J4MESOX4D の投稿を引用：
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
a 46% headshot percentage makes me the number one player in the world? How have you came up with that number? Lmfao. Also, the achievements was me downloading workshop maps to simply make my profile card look cooler as back then the gold medals were displayable, completely irrelevant to the topic of actual hacks you inject into the game, mentioning it and wording it like it's some sort of proof doesn't solidify your argument, it just makes you look stupid. As far as the thread thing goes, you're interpreting it as me being a cheater trying to figure out if I'm safe or not from what I can gather, when it's really just a thread out of curiousity but I guess I can't talk you out of your viewpoint, respectable but dissapointing knowing I'm a legit player and will always be a legit player.
Not even pro players have a headshot hit-rate of 40%+. Also any rate that is 2x base accuracy is incredibly suspicious. 21% would be in the common 32-35% bracket; not 46% which means out of the mere 21% bullets you land; 46% are headshots despite the hitbox being 25% of the target.

Virtually all users confronted this way just own up or go quiet but you certainly like digging ye old hole.
See, I wish I could understand but you're going on about a "headshot hit-rate" which I really can't get my head around, [I've also never heard of it before], I can't even learn anything about it via google because nothing comes up, the site that you yourself linked put up a headshot percentage of 46% which to my understanding has always been about kills, please link the source that makes this headshot hit-rate a real thing I can talk about, I might be talking out of my ass at this point but I genuinely don't understand.
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J4MESOX4D 2018年11月18日 8時59分 
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
J4MESOX4D の投稿を引用：
Not even pro players have a headshot hit-rate of 40%+. Also any rate that is 2x base accuracy is incredibly suspicious. 21% would be in the common 32-35% bracket; not 46% which means out of the mere 21% bullets you land; 46% are headshots despite the hitbox being 25% of the target.

Virtually all users confronted this way just own up or go quiet but you certainly like digging ye old hole.
See, I wish I could understand but you're going on about a "headshot hit-rate" which I really can't get my head around, [I've also never heard of it before], I can't even learn anything about it via google because nothing comes up, the site that you yourself linked put up a headshot percentage of 46% which to my understanding has always been about kills, please link the source that makes this headshot hit-rate a real thing I can talk about, I might be talking out of my ass at this point but I genuinely don't understand.
The API doesn't lie - you cannot hide from tracked stats https://csgo-stats.com/player/76561198134521022

Accuracy is bullets landed - headshots is how many of the landed bullets were to the head. Even if it was kills alone; 46% of your kills being headshots would be beyond suspicious in their own right.

The detailed stats can be used to spot extremely suspicious behaviour. Yours alone show a) headshots more than 2x base accuarcy b) headshot bracket nearly15% more than the common c) headshots in top 1% global ahead of all pro players. All this just by looking at numbers. We then have your thread context to take into account and cheated achievments for good measure. It doesn't add up to much credibility really and you can see why people would be very suspicious.
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Supafly 2018年11月18日 8時59分 
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
I can't even learn anything about it via google because nothing comes up

Didn'#t look very hard as I found it and entered your profile in less than a minute
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lucifer 2018年11月18日 9時03分 
Gilga ™ の投稿を引用：
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
Also, the achievements was me downloading workshop maps.

This excuse doesn`t work, you cheated your achievements, period.
Haha, yes, I didn't get all my achievements through in-game play but Valve allows workshop maps to play into "achievement getting" per se, they also don't work against the ToS in any way shape or form so in my opinion, it's up for grabs... but at this point it seems like you're cherry-picking things that literally do not matter, especially looking at it objectively. I'm trying to talk about injected hacks and you're looking at my achievements... I must be the scum of the earth eh, you sure got me! I'm a stinking cheater! Maybe you should actually contribute to the conversation, lmfao.
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Gilga ™ |Yonaguni| 2018年11月18日 9時05分 
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
Gilga ™ の投稿を引用：

This excuse doesn`t work, you cheated your achievements, period.
Haha, yes, I didn't get all my achievements through in-game play but Valve allows workshop maps to play into "achievement getting" per se, they also don't work against the ToS in any way shape or form so in my opinion, it's up for grabs... but at this point it seems like you're cherry-picking things that literally do not matter, especially looking at it objectively. I'm trying to talk about injected hacks and you're looking at my achievements... I must be the scum of the earth eh, you sure got me! I'm a stinking cheater! Maybe you should actually contribute to the conversation, lmfao.

Workshop maps doesn`t trigger all achievements at the same time, tools like SAM trigger them at the same time.
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lucifer 2018年11月18日 9時08分 
Gilga ™ の投稿を引用：
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
Haha, yes, I didn't get all my achievements through in-game play but Valve allows workshop maps to play into "achievement getting" per se, they also don't work against the ToS in any way shape or form so in my opinion, it's up for grabs... but at this point it seems like you're cherry-picking things that literally do not matter, especially looking at it objectively. I'm trying to talk about injected hacks and you're looking at my achievements... I must be the scum of the earth eh, you sure got me! I'm a stinking cheater! Maybe you should actually contribute to the conversation, lmfao.

Workshop maps doesn`t trigger all achievements at the same time, tools like SAM trigger them at the same time.
But I didn't get them all at the same time... I downloaded several workshop maps and it took quite a while.
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lucifer 2018年11月18日 9時23分 
J4MESOX4D の投稿を引用：
𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗. の投稿を引用：
See, I wish I could understand but you're going on about a "headshot hit-rate" which I really can't get my head around, [I've also never heard of it before], I can't even learn anything about it via google because nothing comes up, the site that you yourself linked put up a headshot percentage of 46% which to my understanding has always been about kills, please link the source that makes this headshot hit-rate a real thing I can talk about, I might be talking out of my ass at this point but I genuinely don't understand.
The API doesn't lie - you cannot hide from tracked stats https://csgo-stats.com/player/76561198134521022

Accuracy is bullets landed - headshots is how many of the landed bullets were to the head. Even if it was kills alone; 46% of your kills being headshots would be beyond suspicious in their own right.

The detailed stats can be used to spot extremely suspicious behaviour. Yours alone show a) headshots more than 2x base accuarcy b) headshot bracket nearly15% more than the common c) headshots in top 1% global ahead of all pro players. All this just by looking at numbers. We then have your thread context to take into account and cheated achievments for good measure. It doesn't add up to much credibility really and you can see why people would be very suspicious.
Yeah man, I don't really know what to say here to be completely honest with you, confused because this information is all new to me and confused because my stats seem to be very similar to my close friends' as you can see here...

https://csgo-stats.com/player/76561198060797154
https://csgo-stats.com/player/76561198134521022

I've picked out a mate that rifles aswell and we both play at the same rank as of now, doing pretty similar on the scoreboard, we're not insane at the game or anything but we'd like to think we're above average, is there any difference there that makes mine look super sketchy compared to his?

Couldn't ever understand how I'm "top 1% global ahead of all pro players", it's just crazy.

Is it maybe because I have a lot less in-game hours that could result in fast-paced fluctuating stats?

Or maybe it's because I've been playing FACEIT and practising everyday, just coming back to MM and obviously doing very well against players I should already be above, I've been wondering if FACEIT actually affects your in-game stats aswell, that might make it look more legit, if it doesn't it could possibly explain the jump in stat change?
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Snaggle 2018年11月18日 9時27分 
Why does it matter? Stats mean nothing. If you were cheating and your cheats become detected then you will be banned.
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lucifer 2018年11月18日 9時39分 
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Why does it matter? Stats mean nothing. If you were cheating and your cheats become detected then you will be banned.
right.
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Jim Thirwell 2018年11月18日 9時41分 
Have you owed the account from the start or did you purchase it?
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