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lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 12:16pm
If someone uses an undetected cheat while it was undetected and it now gets detected, would the person be banned?
Title, I'm talking about CS:GO primarily by the way, although I know it probably works the same for all VAC Secure games. I'm interested to know how easy it would be for someone to pick up a cheat and drop it afterwards, if someone uses a private, UD cheat [lets say a whole year ago] but it only now gets detected, could they still be banned?


- A curious, concerned customer.

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Snaggle Nov 18, 2018 @ 12:19pm 
You would only be banned if the cheat was used while it was detected. VAC uses a delayed banning system to make it harder to know if a cheat is detected though. You could use it today, think it's undetected but a week later get VAC banned because of the delayed ban.

If you used the cheat while it was undetected, then no you wouldn't get a VAC ban because VAC doesn't know you were cheating.
lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Snaggle:
You would only be banned if the cheat was used while it was detected. VAC uses a delayed banning system to make it harder to know if a cheat is detected though. You could use it today, think it's undetected but a week later get VAC banned because of the delayed ban.

If you used the cheat while it was undetected, then no you wouldn't get a VAC ban because VAC doesn't know you were cheating.
interesting, although a handful of people have been saying that VAC is able to backtrack and catch the undetected players aswell, is that true? or are you 100% certain on the fact that undetected players are not being able to get banned? If undetected players can't actually be banned [including the amount of time not played with it again], that's quite bad...
Snaggle Nov 18, 2018 @ 12:36pm 
If you use a cheat while it's undetected, you will not be banned. There is no way to be 100% sure if a cheat is detected or not due to the delayed banning system.
XXX Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
If someone

Someone ......

" Someone "

;-)
lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by XXX:
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
If someone

Someone ......

" Someone "

;-)
lmfao, it does look a little dodgy but I have a full CS inventory, + an M9 Bayonet Doppler Phase 2, so my account better have not been cheated on...
XXX Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
Originally posted by XXX:

Someone ......

" Someone "

;-)
lmfao, it does look a little dodgy but I have a full CS inventory, + an M9 Bayonet Doppler Phase 2, so my account better have not been cheated on...
People cheated with 100 knifes .... just saying
J4MESOX4D Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:25pm 
Cheats used previous by a user that become known to VAC later down the line will highly likely see a user banned. Otherwise people would just move from cheat to cheat without concern. It is safe to assume that Valve collect certain data for situations like this so people can be retroactively banned for past behaviour.

Also OP's 46% headhots on a base accuracy of 21% https://csgo-stats.com/player/76561198134521022 which says it all really.
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lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by XXX:
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
lmfao, it does look a little dodgy but I have a full CS inventory, + an M9 Bayonet Doppler Phase 2, so my account better have not been cheated on...
People cheated with 100 knifes .... just saying
cheating with that many skins is idiotic to an extent unimaginable to the normal human being.
J4MESOX4D Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
Originally posted by XXX:
People cheated with 100 knifes .... just saying
cheating with that many skins is idiotic to an extent unimaginable to the normal human being.
46% headshots....
lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
cheating with that many skins is idiotic to an extent unimaginable to the normal human being.
46% headshots....
I don’t get it, what’s your point?
J4MESOX4D Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
46% headshots....
I don’t get it, what’s your point?
You know exactly what my point is so don't play dumb.
Mikasa Ackerman Nov 18, 2018 @ 1:59pm 
as far as i know you get banned even if you dont cheat right now , atleast back when there was the big vac wave in tf2 anyone who used the aimbot recently got banned
lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
I don’t get it, what’s your point?
You know exactly what my point is so don't play dumb.
God, you’re so ignorant and borderline dumb, it’s very clear you must be a bad player and it’s also very clear that the stats should match perfectly fine considering I’ve rifled vast majority of my hours, you can literally google the average players accuracy and headshot %. I’m not far off at all, accuracy accounts for bullets missed vs it being on target (you know how much that can lower everytime you spray a rifle?) and headshots account for when I do actually get the kill, I’m not gonna waste my time going into detail because it’s all just common sense if you’ve played the game for an extended period of time, understanding what things mean and how they can differ even just being through playstyle.

Personally, I know I’m not cheating which might not be that black and white to the public but god does it make your argument that much funnier and pathetic, I’ll take it as a compliment.
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
You know exactly what my point is so don't play dumb.
God, you’re so ignorant and borderline dumb, it’s very clear you must be a bad player and it’s also very clear that the stats should match perfectly fine considering I’ve rifled vast majority of my hours, you can literally google the average players accuracy and headshot %. I’m not far off at all, accuracy accounts for bullets missed vs it being on target (you know how much that can lower everytime you spray a rifle?) and headshots account for when I do actually get the kill, I’m not gonna waste my time going into detail because it’s all just common sense if you’ve played the game for an extended period of time, understanding what things mean and how they can differ even just being through playstyle.

Personally, I know I’m not cheating which might not be that black and white to the public but god does it make your argument that much funnier and pathetic, I’ll take it as a compliment.

Calling other people dumb, when you stareted this stupid thread is very funny, i will keep and eye on your account, lets see if the undetected cheat you might have used will be detected.
lucifer Nov 18, 2018 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Gilga ™:
Originally posted by 𝖑𝖚𝖈𝖎𝖋𝖊𝖗.:
God, you’re so ignorant and borderline dumb, it’s very clear you must be a bad player and it’s also very clear that the stats should match perfectly fine considering I’ve rifled vast majority of my hours, you can literally google the average players accuracy and headshot %. I’m not far off at all, accuracy accounts for bullets missed vs it being on target (you know how much that can lower everytime you spray a rifle?) and headshots account for when I do actually get the kill, I’m not gonna waste my time going into detail because it’s all just common sense if you’ve played the game for an extended period of time, understanding what things mean and how they can differ even just being through playstyle.

Personally, I know I’m not cheating which might not be that black and white to the public but god does it make your argument that much funnier and pathetic, I’ll take it as a compliment.

Calling other people dumb, when you stareted this stupid thread is very funny, i will keep and eye on your account, lets see if the undetected cheat you might have used will be detected.
"Stupid thread", PLEASE elaborate on how I could be in the wrong since you're speaking so passive-aggressively, I would love to hear what you have to say, it's clear that I'm asking a genuine question, I now hardly play MM anymore because of cheaters and how often I come into contact with them, I would think it's easy to get away from VAC solely on how common they are but I'm playing now on FACEIT, soon moving to ESEA to try plug the problem.

https://www.faceit.com/en/players/-reficuL

Edit: Also, good luck on watching my account, you're going to be waiting an extremely long
time attempting to get your 'last laugh'.
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