Twitch Chat interactions

[Testikel-knuser Karsten]

Hello

I've created a program that allows Twitch Chat to send input as if it was my keyboard that sent it (press various buttons). I originally made this because I thought it would be funny when playing racing games and viewers could trigger a sudden brake or left turn.

If I use this program in CS:GO to trigger button presses, for example press G, run forward, look into the sky etc. will I risk getting VAC banned?

It is in no form cheating nor modifying game files. My program receives a signal from a Twitch websocket that a channel point event has happened, and then my program presses a keyboard button using JNativeHook.

Thanks for the help.
- Bondo

[my new friend]

This sounds like Overwatch would have a field day investigating your account. I would advise against it.

[Testikel-knuser Karsten]

I'm hoping for more concrete answers rather than guesses.
As for controlling mouse movement, I would probably not do that since it seems very sketchy, but if a Valve employee could help out, it would be great, tho I doubt they check these threads :i

[my new friend]

引用自 Testikel-knuser Karsten：

I'm hoping for more concrete answers rather than guesses.
As for controlling mouse movement, I would probably not do that since it seems very sketchy, but if a Valve employee could help out, it would be great, tho I doubt they check these threads :i

No employees are going to post here nor will they give you any details as to how their anti-cheat works.
But Overwatch is a completely different story since that is the community judging your account, which is why I stated that.

[HikariLight]

If your unsure best thing to do is not use it. Better safe than sorry kind of thing.

[Testikel-knuser Karsten]

引用自 my new friend：

引用自 Testikel-knuser Karsten：

I'm hoping for more concrete answers rather than guesses.
As for controlling mouse movement, I would probably not do that since it seems very sketchy, but if a Valve employee could help out, it would be great, tho I doubt they check these threads :i

No employees are going to post here nor will they give you any details as to how their anti-cheat works.
But Overwatch is a completely different story since that is the community judging your account, which is why I stated that.

I wouldn't consider it as details or insight in VAC whether it is safe to do what I'm asking, but you're probably right.

引用自 HikariLight：

If your unsure best thing to do is not use it. Better safe than sorry kind of thing.

Sadly, this is probably the correct answer :/

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

引用自 Testikel-knuser Karsten：

引用自 my new friend：

No employees are going to post here nor will they give you any details as to how their anti-cheat works.
But Overwatch is a completely different story since that is the community judging your account, which is why I stated that.

I wouldn't consider it as details or insight in VAC whether it is safe to do what I'm asking, but you're probably right.

引用自 HikariLight：

If your unsure best thing to do is not use it. Better safe than sorry kind of thing.

Sadly, this is probably the correct answer :/

The only thing that would happen is likely an overwatch bop for trolling/griefing considering viewers would explicitly be trying to screw you up.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

引用自 Testikel-knuser Karsten：

I'm hoping for more concrete answers rather than guesses.
As for controlling mouse movement, I would probably not do that since it seems very sketchy, but if a Valve employee could help out, it would be great, tho I doubt they check these threads :i

lol....This is a user forum and yes, anything that looks odd or suspicious will get your gameplay sent to Overwatch which has nothing to do with VAC or this forum. Overwatch bans that are due to cheating are permanent, by the way....and anything that is seen as griefing is permanent on the second offense.

[QWEEDDY2]

As for non-Overwatch bans (its already sound suspicious enough to make demo of your gameplay).

VAC for Valve's games and for 3rd party ones are differ.
VAC in Valve games never ban you for suspicious process. And same for 3rd party games, but only for your own private tool that is unknown for 3rd party game VAC.


Ofc it is not ban-free for any else anti-cheat system and by default - IT IS goin to ban. If you interesting only about Valve games - you are completely safe. Safe in Source games (where secure connection error most likely happened with that tool for suspicious activity - but no ban), safe in GldSrc games (where probably no such non-bannable detection from suspicious soft, its about 10 years when i try MP there last time).

False VAC bans can happen in 3rd party games. Without detection. And probably not all of them been removed. For 3rd party games its not only about how VAC module implemented.
I suggest not using things in for example CoD games.

Return to suspicious... why you need that in online game? What fun in it? Even if you loosing - you ruin it for opponents. And there is also your teammate who not be happy if your goal is to make strange moves only.
That can lead to Game ban. Although it can take much time for it.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

引用自 QWEEDDY2：

As for non-Overwatch bans (its already sound suspicious enough to make demo of your gameplay).

VAC for Valve's games and for 3rd party ones are differ.
VAC in Valve games never ban you for suspicious process. And same for 3rd party games, but only for your own private tool that is unknown for 3rd party game VAC.


Ofc it is not ban-free for any else anti-cheat system and by default - IT IS goin to ban. If you interesting only about Valve games - you are completely safe. Safe in Source games (where secure connection error most likely happened with that tool for suspicious activity - but no ban), safe in GldSrc games (where probably no such non-bannable detection from suspicious soft, its about 10 years when i try MP there last time).

False VAC bans can happen in 3rd party games. Without detection. And probably not all of them been removed. For 3rd party games its not only about how VAC module implemented.
I suggest not using things in for example CoD games.

Return to suspicious... why you need that in online game? What fun in it? Even if you loosing - you ruin it for opponents. And there is also your teammate who not be happy if your goal is to make strange moves only.
That can lead to Game ban. Although it can take much time for it.

This has so much incorrect drivel I don't know where to begin.

[HikariLight]

引用自 QWEEDDY2：

As for non-Overwatch bans (its already sound suspicious enough to make demo of your gameplay).

VAC for Valve's games and for 3rd party ones are differ.
VAC in Valve games never ban you for suspicious process. And same for 3rd party games, but only for your own private tool that is unknown for 3rd party game VAC.


Ofc it is not ban-free for any else anti-cheat system and by default - IT IS goin to ban. If you interesting only about Valve games - you are completely safe. Safe in Source games (where secure connection error most likely happened with that tool for suspicious activity - but no ban), safe in GldSrc games (where probably no such non-bannable detection from suspicious soft, its about 10 years when i try MP there last time).

False VAC bans can happen in 3rd party games. Without detection. And probably not all of them been removed. For 3rd party games its not only about how VAC module implemented.
I suggest not using things in for example CoD games.

Return to suspicious... why you need that in online game? What fun in it? Even if you loosing - you ruin it for opponents. And there is also your teammate who not be happy if your goal is to make strange moves only.
That can lead to Game ban. Although it can take much time for it.

Anything that alters CORE game files for Valve games will result in a VAC ban.

[QWEEDDY2]

VAC ban you for KNOWN cheats detected. Anything that alter CORE (exe-dll) files and maybe some else not allow you to play at all or overwrite files back.
For Source game there is database of known suspicious injecting-overlaying process. Some of them KNOWN not to used for cheating (to hide cheats), some known used to inject and hide cheats (eg reshade).
You can get connection insecure errors. VAC ban in Valve games issued only for cheats.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Reshade does not cause VAC bans. You've been here long enough to know that.....

[QWEEDDY2]

Using of reshade player get inseure connection error. Only for Source games (CSGO a little bit differ system, with launch arguments for secure\insecure). Some programs with overlays known to be safe. Some known possible not safe but not bannebale.


Using it in any else game can lead to a ban (and with high chance for it). Like general rule: avoid any tools from intefer with game process.

Such tool as in OP post - its just AHK app but with online function. AHK also bannable in 3rd-party developed games, but not in Valve games as i know. Not private ones.

There is contact emails for Valve... but i cant found a reason to write to them with your non-cheating app just to make sure that it is not known cheat (when it initially non-public). There is chance they can get it wrong and add it as private cheat.

[BAD *Man]

Well its easy JNativeHook is a standard Java based class

As long as you do not interfeer with the game files .. there is no VAC Ban ..
therefore its nessesary that u just use the twitch commands to control the keyboard or mouse

any interaction or hooking into the real game files will ge tu banned

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

引用自 QWEEDDY2：

Using of reshade player get inseure connection error. Only for Source games (CSGO a little bit differ system, with launch arguments for secure\insecure). Some programs with overlays known to be safe. Some known possible not safe but not bannebale.


Using it in any else game can lead to a ban (and with high chance for it). Like general rule: avoid any tools from intefer with game process.

Such tool as in OP post - its just AHK app but with online function. AHK also bannable in 3rd-party developed games, but not in Valve games as i know. Not private ones.

There is contact emails for Valve... but i cant found a reason to write to them with your non-cheating app just to make sure that it is not known cheat (when it initially non-public). There is chance they can get it wrong and add it as private cheat.

Again, stop spreading misinformation. Even moderators here have said that Reshade will not cause a VAC ban. So, unless you have some proof to back up your claim, again all you're doing is telling stories.

Sure, many people here have tried to use it as an excuse for their ban, but that is all it is ..an excuse. They can say whatever they want but that doesn't mean that what they say is actually what caused the ban. you should know this by now that cheaters are just like liars. The majority of the time they come in here and throw every excuse they can at the wall to see what sticks.

Nothing sticks, because what they're saying is a bunch of BS.