PLAYED AGAINST VAC BAN PLAYER IN OFFICIAL MM????????

[WmB]

Few mins ago i played against player that had not one but two VAC bans, and irony is that is official valve mm server. How can he even connect to my games if im not vac banned and have prime????????????????

[ReBoot]

Bans in different games

[Snivy]

Because there are hundreds of other games, that use VAC?

[OPA]

This is possible because VAC only applies to the game in which the accounts were caught.

List of VAC-secured games.
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?category2=8

[Kinu463]

Being VAC banned does ban you from playing on VAC servers for the game you were banned from (and leaves a permanent red mark). However, it does not ban you from using any VAC servers period. He therefore didn't have a ban on the game you were playing.

[WmB]

I know that there is that kind of posibility but this is his profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/k3f/, and when you look, he have vac ban and not trade ban? Is there posibility that are vac ban issued in games that dont have trade or what?

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by WmB:

I know that there is that kind of posibility but this is his profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/k3f/, and when you look, he have vac ban and not trade ban? Is there posibility that are vac ban issued in games that dont have trade or what?

Trade bans are a different cattle of fish entitely. Check it out yourself, open any "appeal" thread here, check their profile. Most have no trade bans.

[WmB]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by WmB:

I know that there is that kind of posibility but this is his profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/k3f/, and when you look, he have vac ban and not trade ban? Is there posibility that are vac ban issued in games that dont have trade or what?

Trade bans are a different cattle of fish entitely. Check it out yourself, open any "appeal" thread here, check their profile. Most have no trade bans.

I understand that but in most my OW review is autospinners with prime, once or twice there were legit guys but in lower ranks. Also happened that i reported cheater in my game and later I see his i banned so my main concerne is that valve anti-cheat is not working at all now........

[Nyamelon]

Originally posted by WmB:

I know that there is that kind of posibility but this is his profile https://steamcommunity.com/id/k3f/, and when you look, he have vac ban and not trade ban? Is there posibility that are vac ban issued in games that dont have trade or what?

That ban seems pretty old tbh, over 200 days (let that remind you that it doesn't go away)

If I'm not mistaken you can get banned in multiple ways depending on what you did, basically I think trade ban is relevant to other problems like fraud for a serious ban on that stuff. You can also get trade and market cool down if your account gets compromised I think, but that's kinda irrelevant to vac bans.

Vac ban is mainly relevant to cheating in a game on a VAC sever. Some games have VAC servers and non-Vac servers as options. Some even have switches to turn it on and off but I mainly just seen that once in a game.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by WmB:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Trade bans are a different cattle of fish entitely. Check it out yourself, open any "appeal" thread here, check their profile. Most have no trade bans.

I understand that but in most my OW review is autospinners with prime, once or twice there were legit guys but in lower ranks. Also happened that i reported cheater in my game and later I see his i banned so my main concerne is that valve anti-cheat is not working at all now........

First and foremost, are you talking about OW or VAC?

[WmB]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by WmB:

I understand that but in most my OW review is autospinners with prime, once or twice there were legit guys but in lower ranks. Also happened that i reported cheater in my game and later I see his i banned so my main concerne is that valve anti-cheat is not working at all now........

First and foremost, are you talking about OW or VAC?

I was talking about faulty VAC in total. I got cases on OW that should be automatic banned by VAC, and not reviewed by community on OW. They are all auto-spinners, auto bunny, WH and VAC cant detect it....

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by WmB:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

First and foremost, are you talking about OW or VAC?

I was talking about faulty VAC in total. I got cases on OW that should be automatic banned by VAC, and not reviewed by community on OW. They are all auto-spinners, auto bunny, WH and VAC cant detect it....

What's got that to do with the actual topic, namely pre-game bans?

[WmB]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by WmB:

I was talking about faulty VAC in total. I got cases on OW that should be automatic banned by VAC, and not reviewed by community on OW. They are all auto-spinners, auto bunny, WH and VAC cant detect it....

What's got that to do with the actual topic, namely pre-game bans?

Well my main concern was about this guy with his VAC bans. There is also possibility that cheater found way to play even if vac banned. First, guy got two vac bans and i cant check on which games. Second even with prime and agaist higher rank in cs go, they found a way to use cheats and not get immediately banned by anti-cheat system, right there in game. Summa summarum we should assume that Valve is doing there job with cheaters and there is no possibility that they can override valve "firewall", but sadly i dont think so, nonetheless thanks for your post guys. :D

[Zekiran]

Don't forget that Vac bans are DELAYED.

Just because you may come across players obviously cheating who do not yet have a Vac, doesn't mean that vac hasn't already flagged their account.

They will get a GAME ban due to the overwatch, and more than likely later on a Vac will supersede it on the profile, but both will still exist on the account.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by WmB:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

What's got that to do with the actual topic, namely pre-game bans?

Well my main concern was about this guy with his VAC bans. There is also possibility that cheater found way to play even if vac banned. First, guy got two vac bans and i cant check on which games. Second even with prime and agaist higher rank in cs go, they found a way to use cheats and not get immediately banned by anti-cheat system, right there in game. Summa summarum we should assume that Valve is doing there job with cheaters and there is no possibility that they can override valve "firewall", but sadly i dont think so, nonetheless thanks for your post guys. :D

You know there's other games on Steam, you've been informed of per-game bans, but you still want to think those players bypass the system. Well, if thats what you want to think, have fun.

[Dicht007™ DiNase]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Bans in different games