Facial recognition as another level on VAC secure games.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Perhaps it is time to consider facial recognition software.

TL/DR If you get banned your face gets banned.

Most gamers and most laptops have a camera. And anyone wanting a level above prime would be happy to get a camera to do so.

This could also be used to prevent someone else playing your VAC secure games or selling accounts (many of which are used to cheat) if it was used at login.

Thoughts?

Edit:

Notes:

Possible uses, to prevent someone using your account while afk (alt tab lock?)

If it only detects 1000 face types using it instead of guard if you have no phone, would stop 999 out of 1000 highjackers.

Perhaps the technology is a way off or some other person identifier could be used. EG. Verifying your account with photo id.

Should you be able to purchase trust?

If you have a better idea please talk about it.

May work well in future games were your live head is shown in game.

Possibly add phone steam guard finger print/s for verification.

Also add random movement requirement to prevent recorded video or webcam jacking. ( they already have your usernames and passwords steam account email and phone to making jacking your webcam viable at access your account to cheat )

Perhaps make it optional adding to trust level.

Consider other trust level factors:
Cheat history
Flagged by players
Age of account
Money spent on account
Other banable games on account
Hour of VAC games played
Facebook link
Other suggestions?

[Wolf Knight]

just as easy to bypass as IP and Hardware bans. also an easy way to get people you hate banned. just need to hijack someone's camera to get their image

how would this work when dealing with twins/triplets/etc.? 2 for one deal on a ban?

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Автор сообщения: Wolf Knight

just as easy to bypass as IP and Hardware bans. also an easy way to get people you hate banned.

And how would you steal my head or change yours to look exactly like mine to get me banned?

Edit: add thumbprint on the phone as well to verify it is you before accepting the login.

[Wolf Knight]

masks are a thing, makeup, hijacking camera's, and not everyone uses camera's. so you going to lock people out of gaming because they dont have a camera on their computer? streamers use camera's, normal people dont since they dont need it.

edit: almost forgot. the kind of ban you are asking for would also hurt people that get hijacked, or banned thru family share, or just used a computer that had cheats on it (cybercafes are bad places to play vac secured games). people do change over time, but you want them to be permanently locked out. not a good business decision.

if you want to use the facial and thumbprint for account security, then you should post in the suggestion forums. maybe steam will take an interest. but as an anticheat, not a good choice.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Masks, you would need an individual mask, all store bought ones would be all quickly banned.

Not locking out anyone, this is optional as an extra layer to reduce the number of cheaters you play with.

Adding this would add to your trust level and or you play with other "RECOGNIZED" players which should do the same.

[Wolf Knight]

Автор сообщения: Gen. Xite >X<

Masks, you would need an individual mask, all store bought ones would be all quickly banned.

Not locking out anyone, this is optional as an extra layer to reduce the number of cheaters you play with.

Adding this would add to your trust level and or you play with other "RECOGNIZED" players which should do the same.

who said the mask had to be me? i could use a holiday mask when I create an account with some minor changes to it. and again, you are locking people out if they get a ban. a ban they may not of been directly involved in. account hijacking, letting a child play and then finding out they downloaded cheats, etc.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Автор сообщения: Wolf Knight

Автор сообщения: Gen. Xite >X<

Masks, you would need an individual mask, all store bought ones would be all quickly banned.

Not locking out anyone, this is optional as an extra layer to reduce the number of cheaters you play with.

Adding this would add to your trust level and or you play with other "RECOGNIZED" players which should do the same.

who said the mask had to be me? i could use a holiday mask when I create an account with some minor changes to it. and again, you are locking people out if they get a ban. a ban they may not of been directly involved in. account hijacking, letting a child play and then finding out they downloaded cheats, etc.

Locking out banned players is the whole idea, account security and pc security are your responsibility and always will be.

Also this is about VAC and adding a layer. Whether it be super prime with a huge price or facial recognition or a faster ban cycle for known cheats.

The problem is mass cheating on free accounts and I can't think of a better idea.

BTW if you put your mask on out of line by as little as a millimeter you would loose the ability to launch the game. Adding a 24 hour restriction from adding a face and using the account would mostly stop mask accounts.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

It can easily be bypassed. I mean come on, even cell phone companies tell you that is it not a viable means of security.

Facial recognition is for convenience, not security.

[Wolf Knight]

so today you want to complain about cheaters, tomorrow you will be complaining about the lack of players in the game (because they got permanently banned from it, not for cheating, but for letting their account be compromised) harsh lesson to learn. this is why accounts are banned, not people

if you want a game to do this kind of banning, you need to post in that games forum so the game devs can hear your voice.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Автор сообщения: C²C^Guyver |NZB|

It can easily be bypassed. I mean come on, even cell phone companies tell you that is it not a viable means of security.

Facial recognition is for convenience, not security.

As stand alone security it isn't great, but as an added layer it may help.

Perhaps requiring a series of random head movements so that a captured video will not work.


BTW: Why is everyone so negative here these days. If you don't think it will work let the thread die.

[Jim Thirwell]

What level of games are you playing ?

Thermo nuclear war ?? ( showing my age here )
If the game you are playing is infested with cheaters leave it.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Автор сообщения: Jim Thirwell

What level of games are you playing ?

Thermo nuclear war ?? ( showing my age here )
If the game you are playing is infested with cheaters leave it.

To be honest my net is so slow I can only play single player games, I haven't played go or tf2 in years.

I come here an read nearly every day and I have been considering how to improve anticheats.

Is banning the person and not the account acceptible, these and other questions need to be asked and answers given, but something more can and must be done.

[Silicon Vampire]

Problem has been, there is not a certain way to determine if you are banning the RIGHT person.

Anyway, cheating is a human behavior/society issue. You would need to fix that first...

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Автор сообщения: Jim Thirwell

What level of games are you playing ?

Thermo nuclear war ?? ( showing my age here )
If the game you are playing is infested with cheaters leave it.

I'm one of few to probably get the reference.

Автор сообщения: Gen. Xite >X<

Автор сообщения: Jim Thirwell

What level of games are you playing ?

Thermo nuclear war ?? ( showing my age here )
If the game you are playing is infested with cheaters leave it.

To be honest my net is so slow I can only play single player games, I haven't played go or tf2 in years.

I come here an read nearly every day and I have been considering how to improve anticheats.

Is banning the person and not the account acceptible, these and other questions need to be asked and answers given, but something more can and must be done.

Valve has never banned people and probably never will...and given your statements, I fail to see why you even care. Singleplayer games = No need for VAC or any other anti-cheat.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

I intend to play multiplayer again in the future and care about the levels of cheating in VAC games.

Perhaps bans would only be for that level of the game.

EG. Not being able to repurchase prime or whatever level facial recognition has.

[Jim Thirwell]

Автор сообщения: C²C^Guyver |NZB|

Автор сообщения: Jim Thirwell

What level of games are you playing ?

Thermo nuclear war ?? ( showing my age here )
If the game you are playing is infested with cheaters leave it.

I'm one of few to probably get the reference.


1983 it came out... I feel old ( I am old lol)