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Roady Dec 20, 2019 @ 9:48pm
No VAC on Mac...
Not even a risk of a ban if you use a Macintosh...
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Jelly Donut Dec 20, 2019 @ 9:52pm 
What are you talking about? Cheaters can also develop cheats on macOS. It's just that majority of Steam Users use Windows.

Originally posted by Roady:
Not even a risk of a ban if you use a Macintosh...

Nonsense!
rawWwRrr Dec 20, 2019 @ 10:33pm 
Given that Mac use on Steam is currently at just under 3% it should be no surprise that finding a VAC banned Mac user is more difficult, but it is certainly still possible.
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Roady Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:36am 
Valve never developed VAC as an anti-cheat for the Apple Macintosh operating system. VAC on the Mac will authenticate with servers, but there's no VAC modules, no scanning of the computer, no actual detection. You can cheat with impunity on the Mac.
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XXX Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Roady:
VAC doesn't exist on the Mac.

source please.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Roady:
Valve never developed VAC for the Apple Macintosh computer. VAC doesn't run on the Mac. I'm not sure how else to say it. Cheats developed for the Mac need not bypass VAC but it doesn't exist on the Mac.
You're sorely misinformed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat


Operating system

Windows, macOS, Linux
Last edited by C²C^Guyver |NZB|; Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:42am
C²C^Guyver |NZB| Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by XXX:
Originally posted by Roady:
VAC doesn't exist on the Mac.

source please.
There is no source, because he's wrong.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Roady:
Not even a risk of a ban if you use a Macintosh...
Originally posted by Roady:
Valve never developed VAC as an anti-cheat for the Apple Macintosh operating system. VAC on the Mac will authenticate with servers, but there's no VAC modules, no scanning of the computer, no actual detection. You can cheat with impunity on the Mac.

Some people missed the MAC cheats that were added to the detection list that banned thousands of accounts last year.

:qr:
Roady Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:45am 
I can't link to the sources because the forum rules won't let me link to those types of sites. I'm a PhD student in the area of malware and cyber operations. But, my own personal interest is in CSGO because I played it for years. Believe it or not, malware and cheats behave very similarly--hence the correlation of my interest. I can tell you that VAC is not doing any scanning on a Mac. Any ban you see someone claim they received is from an Overwatch ban.
rawWwRrr Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Roady:
Valve never developed VAC as an anti-cheat for the Apple Macintosh operating system. VAC on the Mac will authenticate with servers, but there's no VAC modules, no scanning of the computer, no actual detection. You can cheat with impunity on the Mac.
I'm fairly certain with what you've just said that you have no idea how VAC is actually used.
Vault Hunter 101 Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Roady:
Valve never developed VAC as an anti-cheat for the Apple Macintosh operating system. VAC on the Mac will authenticate with servers, but there's no VAC modules, no scanning of the computer, no actual detection. You can cheat with impunity on the Mac.

VAC modules get downloaded on the computer during gameplay, it doesn't matter what operating system you use. If there was no VAC then you would get kicked after few minutes with message like "VAC couldn't authenticate your session" or smth similiar (Im using how it would be in CSGO in example)
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Roady:
I can't link to the sources because the forum rules won't let me link to those types of sites. I'm a PhD student in the area of malware and cyber operations. But, my own personal interest is in CSGO because I played it for years. Believe it or not, malware and cheats behave very similarly--hence the correlation of my interest. I can tell you that VAC is not doing any scanning on a Mac. Any ban you see someone claim they received is from an Overwatch ban.

You are highly incorrect. They also weren't OW bans.

:qr:
Roady Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:47am 
I said VAC authenticates with the server, but there's no VAC scanning on the local Mac computer. Get a Mac and develop the skills to look into it. You might surprise yourself.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Roady:
I can't link to the sources because the forum rules won't let me link to those types of sites. I'm a PhD student in the area of malware and cyber operations. But, my own personal interest is in CSGO because I played it for years. Believe it or not, malware and cheats behave very similarly--hence the correlation of my interest. I can tell you that VAC is not doing any scanning on a Mac. Any ban you see someone claim they received is from an Overwatch ban.
You don't know what you're talking about. For one thing, Overwatch has nothing to do with VAC. Please stop spreading misinformation before you get yourself in trouble in this forum.
Roady Dec 21, 2019 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by Roady:
I can't link to the sources because the forum rules won't let me link to those types of sites. I'm a PhD student in the area of malware and cyber operations. But, my own personal interest is in CSGO because I played it for years. Believe it or not, malware and cheats behave very similarly--hence the correlation of my interest. I can tell you that VAC is not doing any scanning on a Mac. Any ban you see someone claim they received is from an Overwatch ban.

You are highly incorrect. They also weren't OW bans.

:qr:

Overwatch bans convert to VAC bans for over a year now.

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