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Benuno Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:46am
[GOT UNBANNED!]False-positive VAC Ban due to GloSC .dll injection -> impossible to cheat/hack with it/not designed for that purpose.
(Important part at EDIT2)
Just some minutes ago( tuesday, 29.november 2016 around 16:20) i was informed during an online ranked match, that i got VAC banned. In this match my game crashed once due to changing the anti aliasing options ingame (using windows 7 64 bit, acer aspire 7745G, ATi radeon 5850, i5 460m).
When rejoining the server all went as well as before when i suddenly get the information that i got vac banned.

In the background the only software i had running was: the Drakonia Black mouse configurator (http://en.sharkoon.com/product/1692/13579#desc), Skype, AMD gpu clock tool for overclocking my laptop graphic card, GDrive, Lightshot, System Explorer. I have to mention that i never played cs:go online with the new mouse + software until now(its under my understanding that it is no cheating-software/it's not interfering with the game as far as I know). During the match I also were unfortunately 2 minutes afk and teammates asked to kick me if that is somehow important(besides i also hadn't that much kills in this match, was second to the last if i remember correctly).
My pc also runs an unsigned graphic card driver, due to having an older laptop, but had no problems so far with it in connection to VAC.

Is there any reason that i could have got VAC banned due to the mouse software O.o ? Or has it even sth. to do with the crash due while changing the graphics in ranked ?
I mean my mouse has not as much options as the steam controller concerning the mapping. And with this i tried hotkeys in ranked and had no problems. (the steam controller wasn't used before this game today).
With the mouse software you can config the color, speed and button layout on the mouse, although i didnt use any hotkey besides alt+enter during the match [accidently] (i use it for fullscreen faster - i cant do anything with that button combo in csgo xD).
Any help/explanation would be appreciated.

EDIT: The GloSC "injector.exe" was later found to be running all the time in the background. Maybe due to that i got VAC-banned falsely.

EDIT2 - Important part: Injector.exe injected some .dll for the overlay thingy during my match all the time and was most likely the cause of the Ban :(.

Originally posted by Valve Anti-Cheat System (VAC):
Any third-party modifications to a game designed to give one player an advantage over another is classified as a cheat or hack and will trigger a VAC ban. This includes modifications to a game's core executable files and dynamic link libraries.

I wasn't able to cheat with it or manipulate anything and it's not designed for that purpose.
Therefore it can't be classified as a cheat or hack and must be a false positive.

It would be nice to solve this problem via lifting my ban by whitelisting the GloSC tool.

GloSC links:
Link to Steam Community of the tool: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GloSC
Reddit link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamController/comments/5fcg4z/news_glosc_global_steamcontroller_updated_to_11/
Download link from github: https://alia5.github.io/GloSC/
Last edited by Benuno; Jun 9, 2017 @ 11:19pm
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Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:48am 
All of your questions have answers in the pinned thread.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/
Benuno Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:55am 
Thanks for your fast reply.

"...is used to protect against in-game cheating in a variety of games. Any modification to a game which allows for one player to have an advantage over another player may be considered a cheat. " --> To my understanding this doesn't include my mouse software, does it :?
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:56am 
Originally posted by Benuno:
Thanks for your fast reply.

"...is used to protect against in-game cheating in a variety of games. Any modification to a game which allows for one player to have an advantage over another player may be considered a cheat. " --> To my understanding this doesn't include my mouse software, does it :?

Depends, is it a auto clicking kind of software? If so, then yeah most likely. But like a Razer app...no, not at all. If the software says on their site that it will make you a better player cause of X reasons, then most likely a form of a cheating software.
Last edited by Mr. G; Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:57am
SmollBrain 🏹 Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Captain Price:
Originally posted by Benuno:
Thanks for your fast reply.

"...is used to protect against in-game cheating in a variety of games. Any modification to a game which allows for one player to have an advantage over another player may be considered a cheat. " --> To my understanding this doesn't include my mouse software, does it :?

Depends, is it a auto clicking kind of software? If so, then yeah most likely. But like a Razer app...no, not at all. If the software says on their sight that it will make you a better player cause of X reasons, then most likely a form of cheating software.

auto clicking doesn't get you vacced :steamfacepalm:
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Daethma ♥:
Originally posted by Captain Price:

Depends, is it a auto clicking kind of software? If so, then yeah most likely. But like a Razer app...no, not at all. If the software says on their sight that it will make you a better player cause of X reasons, then most likely a form of cheating software.

auto clicking doesn't get you vacced :steamfacepalm:

I believe I've seen it a few times with CoD, but I think it's safe to say it's sort of a risk.
SmollBrain 🏹 Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Captain Price:
Originally posted by Daethma ♥:

auto clicking doesn't get you vacced :steamfacepalm:

I believe I've seen it a few times with CoD, but I think it's safe to say it's sort of a risk.

You heard cheaters say that, or did you actually see tests done? Why is it a risk? It's a program that executes a script for your mouse to click. You can't get vacced for that because it doesn't touch any games or modify it. Hardware configs don't get you banned =p
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by Daethma ♥:
Originally posted by Captain Price:

I believe I've seen it a few times with CoD, but I think it's safe to say it's sort of a risk.

You heard cheaters say that, or did you actually see tests done? Why is it a risk? It's a program that executes a script for your mouse to click. You can't get vacced for that because it doesn't touch any games or modify it. Hardware configs don't get you banned =p

It probably was cheaters, lol. Either way, in my own opinion I feel like it's unsafe, but you have a valid point.
Benuno Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:15am 
The problem is: Nothing else would make up a reason to ban me even. I had to update my game (around 850mb) freshly before the game was started (so no game file modding). No steam manipulation, no cheating-software running in the background (even no antivirus software). Oh and i wasn't playing on steam anything around 1 week (my account is public and you should be able to see it i think). I just played cs:go a bit and before that tried https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamController/comments/5fcg4z/news_glosc_global_steamcontroller_updated_to_11/ which sadly doesnt work on my win7 pc somehow (dont discuss that problem pls).
Last edited by Benuno; Nov 29, 2016 @ 11:46pm
Benuno Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:20am 
Could it be that steam recognized the application GloSC as an cheating software :? I opend it roughly 20-30 times trying to get it work before playing the game( it wasnt running in the background, always immediatly closed itself)
Kempek Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:24am 
You don't have to cheat yourself to get banned.
Bans can also be applied for

phone-sharing
library-sharing
account-sharing

with someone using cheats with your account.
And NO, those are still permanent for all accounts connected to them.
Last edited by Kempek; Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:24am
Benuno Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:26am 
so i have to check my friends who played my family shared games if it was a VAC game some time ago :? I only shared to some lazy one's not playing a lot of games but still a good information to check out too. thx.
SmollBrain 🏹 Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by Captain Price:
Originally posted by Daethma ♥:

You heard cheaters say that, or did you actually see tests done? Why is it a risk? It's a program that executes a script for your mouse to click. You can't get vacced for that because it doesn't touch any games or modify it. Hardware configs don't get you banned =p

It probably was cheaters, lol. Either way, in my own opinion I feel like it's unsafe, but you have a valid point.

Even if VAC wanted to ban you for having autoclicker, it would have no way of telling whether or not most clicks are real or fake. When you click ur mouse, you send information to da cpu to make click at x,y. A script or code does the samething, so there isn't a way to tell the difference without false positives. The only way they would be able to ban you is if they blacklist your mouse programs signature. In which case, everyone that has a gaming mouse would be vac banned for running their software.
Си́нтез Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by Benuno:
Could it be that steam recognized the application GloSC as an cheating software :? I opend it roughly 20-30 times trying to get it work before playing the game( it wasnt running in the background, always immediatly closed itself)
No one will tell you for sure. You are responsible for all software running on your pc.
Benuno Nov 29, 2016 @ 8:30am 
Well, the best was 167 days ago last time online (xD) and the others played their games or over 1 month ago one of mine if i looked up correctly.
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