VAC Ban for Sniper Elite 4

[Maj. Herb-Head]

Hello all
I have no idea if anyone can assist with this matter but, I logged into steam this morning to see a notification stating that I have been VAC Banned on Sniper Elite 4. I have contacted steam support about this as I have stated to them that this ban couldn't be more wrongfully placed on someone. The whole idea of me buying a game that has a system like VAC is so that what has happened to me happens to those who cheat in Multi-player games, All steam games should be VAC secured in my opinion.
But to see I now have a VAC ban on my account when I have NEVER (and even those who I play with will be wondering why I have had this) cheat while in a Multiplayer game.
This stupid ban will now ruin my reputation as a fair gamer, there was no just cause for this ban and I really want to know who I need to argue with to get it lifted. This is just simply stupid.

[Snaggle]

Maj. Herb-Head eredeti hozzászólása:

Like this?

That's it. I guess SE4 is protected but it is not reflected on the store page. Either way, there is nothing that can be done about it. You used something that was regarded as a cheat so you're now VAC banned for it.

[Maj. Herb-Head]

Drat, drat and triple drat! I can only hope that it will automatically get lifted. I have been reading through and thats the only thing that can happen. I have contested it, probably to no avail but I will try anyway. Thanks for the help and info peeps.

[Jonno.exe]

Maj. Herb-Head eredeti hozzászólása:

J4MESOX4D eredeti hozzászólása:

I think you may have tripped yourself up here. The key is NOT to cheat at all as core files are protected even if you aren't connected to an in-game server. Just by running the .exe can trigger the operation of VAC where cheats can be detected. You don't have to be playing online against people to be banned. Modding 'offline' can also trigger bans.

Modding? who said anything about modding? I don't MOD games.
I cheated while playing through a singleplayer mission - god mode. But always made sure program was not running when playing in Multiplayer.

You have just admitted to cheating there mate. VAC is online, offline and private servers enabled. VAC will not remove your ban. Fin

[Maj. Herb-Head]

Jonno Gaming eredeti hozzászólása:

Maj. Herb-Head eredeti hozzászólása:

Modding? who said anything about modding? I don't MOD games.
I cheated while playing through a singleplayer mission - god mode. But always made sure program was not running when playing in Multiplayer.

You have just admitted to cheating there mate. VAC is online, offline and private servers enabled. VAC will not remove your ban. Fin

Not true, not true at all. Half-Life 2 is a VAC secured game. I can cheat the hell out of it in singleplayer and have yet to get a VAC ban because of that!
So I don't understand what your trying to say there. And is too why I don't understand why I have been impossed with this for Sniper Elite 4.

[かぐや]

This situation again... Rebellion does not officially tell, game has VAC support. Same mistake did Techland with their Dying Light game https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/456e3z/vac_banned_in_a_game_that_officially_doesnt_even/d016ujx/

[Cathulhu]

Half Life 2 does not have VAC. It's a pure Singleplayer game, those can not be VAC protected. Only games with Multiplayer can be VAC protected.

And it's very likely that the manipulations of the cheat were still in the memory, even after the cheat was closed. That got picked up by VAC when you were connected to the multiplayer server and got you banned.

As the Steam Subscriber Agreement told you, you are not allowed to use cheats. You still did, on your own risk. You got caught.
Your intentions don't matter.

[J4MESOX4D]

かぐや eredeti hozzászólása:

This situation again... Rebellion does not officially tell, game has VAC support. Same mistake did Techland with their Dying Light game https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/456e3z/vac_banned_in_a_game_that_officially_doesnt_even/d016ujx/

The Dying Light situation was a bit different as users were told they could mod the game only for Techland to enable VAC under the table resulting in all previously approved modifications to be detected as cheats. Many got banned and all were unbanned very quickly.

The Sniper Elite 4 devs don't have to disclose that the game is now VAC protected but any forms of modifications would have to violate the game licence for a VAC ban to be correctly applied I imagine.

Maj. Herb-Head eredeti hozzászólása:

Drat, drat and triple drat! I can only hope that it will automatically get lifted. I have been reading through and thats the only thing that can happen. I have contested it, probably to no avail but I will try anyway. Thanks for the help and info peeps.

Definitely worth contesting - make sure you've done this direct to the developers for the most accurate and quickest resolution. If the ban does stand; it means that just by 'cheating' in the game even for single player, breaches their end-user agreement. My guess is whatever was used couldn't be determined as anything less than a forbidden mod/process regardless of how it was used. Good luck anyway.

[Maj. Herb-Head]

Cathulhu eredeti hozzászólása:

And it's very likely that the manipulations of the cheat were still in the memory, even after the cheat was closed. That got picked up by VAC when you were connected to the multiplayer server and got you banned.

This is probably more than likely why then. Normally I would close a game and then re-launch it before switching to Multiplayer. To make sure that doesn't happen. But there have been a few instances with SE4 that I have not done that.

[Rydall]

when you did the last few updates , the patch info said, anti cheat updtates included?? ,
now the issue you have is no server owners let vac players on there servers in multiplayer.

[Maj. Herb-Head]

SPH RYDALL eredeti hozzászólása:

when you did the last few updates , the patch info said, anti cheat updtates included?? ,
now the issue you have is no server owners let vac players on there servers in multiplayer.

I know. And this will be a big issue for me. I love SE4 and love playing online with SE4.

[Rydall]

are you able to post a clear shot of the message , without all your info? , id like to confurm that it has come from sniper 4.
and just saying it could be worse , the devs used to give game bans for cheating, basicly removing your key and making the game non working, so at least you can still play wiith other co op players and sp mode still

[BossGalaga]

Maj. Herb-Head eredeti hozzászólása:

I can cheat all I want IF I want. The KEY is to NOT cheat while online. Which I never have done. It ruins games and sucks the fun out of them.

It's kind of funny that you didn't even know which game you were VAC banned from. That should be incredibly apparent.

"Single player" ARK is still VAC secured. All ARK servers are VAC secured by default and when you play ARK's "single player" mode, you are actually playing on a local server.

Either way, it doesn't matter if you were actually playing single player or if you're just claiming it was just single player when it was actually multiplayer. Either way, the ban stands.

[Snaggle]

SPH RYDALL eredeti hozzászólása:

are you able to post a clear shot of the message , without all your info? , id like to confurm that it has come from sniper 4

He already has.

BossGalaga eredeti hozzászólása:

It's kind of funny that you didn't even know which game you were VAC banned from. That should be incredibly apparent.

This has already been resolved.

I know you guys mean well, but can you please read the thread before posting?

[Rydall]

i had, and the image he posted was not clear

[Snaggle]

SPH RYDALL eredeti hozzászólása:

i had, and the image he posted was not clear

It clearly says the game name. You're probably looking at the non-maximized version.