IKMA Mar 30, 2016 @ 12:45pm
Steam guard token on windows mobile
Now what I must do? I have windows mobile and I want to sell something on community market? But I don't have possibility to instal steam aps. This is discrimination. If I want to a quick sell something because today prtce is 50e I must wait 15 days? Then price is 2 euro. That's normally? This is discrimination of windows mobile members. I spent a lot of money for the games, I spent a lot of time to play, take a suvenires and now if I want something to sell I MUST WAIT????? What is this? Could someone answer what I must do now? Thanks
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IKMA Mar 30, 2016 @ 12:51pm 
I want my money back. For wallet and for my all games which i'm buying and I make a uninstal steam and never again I come back for this community. This is discrimination what You doing with us. US - windows mobile members!!!!
Sludge Metal Mike Mar 30, 2016 @ 12:51pm 
Recently we walked through our thinking on account security and trading http://store.steampowered.com/news/19618/, and introduced some new tools for users to protect their accounts. Now that we've had some time to gather data, we'll be making a few more changes to account security, market transactions, and our account restoration process.

Below are the changes that will take place on March 9th. If you are already protected by the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator (or if you add the security feature to your account today), the first two points below will not impact you:

Trade hold duration will be increased to 15 days (for long-time Steam friends the duration will remain 1 day)

Listing on the Steam Community Market will have a hold of 15 days before an item can be sold

Steam Support will no longer restore items that have left accounts following a successful trade or market transaction (a process that previously created duplicates of original items)


To help understand these changes, we wanted to walk you through the results we've seen so far and our reasoning behind these next steps.

First, it's worth revisiting our goals behind the two main ways customers interact with in-game economies on Steam: Trading and the Steam Community Market. Our primary goal for Trading is to allow customers to easily exchange items with their friends. Our goal for the Steam Community Market is to provide customers with a way to sell any unwanted goods to other players. Both systems work well for these purposes, but they can be a source of pain if the security of your account is ever compromised.

Account and Item Theft

In December we took steps to improve account security by adding more security features, including the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator and trade holds.

Since then, we've seen lots of users adopting the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator (two-factor authentication) for trade and market confirmations, and now roughly 95% of daily trades use the mobile authenticator, with trade volumes as high as ever. The authenticator is the best tool that users have to protect their accounts, and the fastest and most secure way to trade items.

Trade Holds

For users who have yet to transition to the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator, trade holds provide a way to continue to exchange items. Items in a trade hold are held by Steam for a period of time before delivery. This allows users whose accounts have been compromised to quickly cancel any fraudulent trades to recover their items. Trade holds are effective, but unfortunately the current three-day hold fails to protect users who log in less frequently and who need more time to identify a problem. So we'll be adjusting the system to accommodate the majority of customers by increasing trade holds to 15 days.

If you're exchanging items with a friend, and you've been friends for more than a year, don't worry - the trade hold duration is still one day.

Market Holds

Trade holds have been successful, but until now they've been limited to trades. If the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator was not enabled on a user's account, it was still possible for a hacker to quickly liquidate a user's inventory through the Steam Community Market. To further protect users who haven't enabled the authenticator, holds will now also apply when you list items on the Steam Community Market. Market listing (like trades) will still be instantaneous if you're using the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator.

Item Duplication

Since the last account security update, we've made significant progress in protecting accounts. In addition to significantly increasing the size of Steam Support to improve response times, individual accounts protected by the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator on a separate device turned out to be even more effective than we'd hoped. For customers who have yet to add the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator, trade holds have been helpful in keeping items secure, and we expect that the added duration and extension of holds to the Steam Community Market will further improve security.

Our work isn't finished, but we've seen enough progress in account security to finally address an old problem: item duplication. Currently, if an account is compromised and items have been lost through a successful trade or market transaction, we would manually restore the items, creating duplicates of the original items in the process. That process of manual restoration and duplication has the negative side effect of changing an item's scarcity - as more copies of the item are created, the value of every other similar item is reduced. In addition, it created a method by which users could be rewarded for faking account hijacks.

While we'll continue to assist users with the recovery of their account if they encounter an issue, beginning March 9th we will no longer be manually restoring items that have left the account due to a successful trade or market transaction.

Balance

There's a delicate balance between account security and the convenience of interacting with the market or trade. Any time we make changes, there's the risk of significant disruption. We recognize that today's changes will be inconvenient for users who have yet (or are unable) to use the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator. But if you're a high volume trader (who our data shows is likely using the authenticator already), or a trader who likes to exchange items with friends, these changes won't really affect you at all. We believe these steps are necessary to ensure that accounts are made more secure, that users are empowered to identify and solve problems, and that the economic systems enjoyed by millions of customers are not compromised by people with malicious intent.

Account security is an issue that affects everyone, and we hope this post has helped to explain our goals and reasoning as we move forward. Please continue to provide your feedback and account security ideas in the Steam forums and elsewhere on the web.
Sludge Metal Mike Mar 30, 2016 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by .:: I K M A ::.®:
I want my money back. For wallet and for my all games which i'm buying and I make a uninstal steam and never again I come back for this community. This is discrimination what You doing with us. US - windows mobile members!!!!
you can ask for refunds through steam support
76561198142611422 Mar 30, 2016 @ 1:03pm 
Can one phone number binding two steam account?
Sludge Metal Mike Mar 30, 2016 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by 从零开始:
Can one phone number binding two steam account?
yes
IKMA Mar 30, 2016 @ 1:09pm 
Buy me new iphone and i will use steam mobile tokens.You have my adress I will wait with patience for my new phone given by steam. Your sincinerly 10 years steam user.

Razia Mar 30, 2016 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by Sludge Metal Mike:
Originally posted by 从零开始:
Can one phone number binding two steam account?
yes
Hey there,
actually i gotta admit that its pretty sad to not be able to sell anything in steam spontaneously.
At least for Windows Phone User, such as i am.
Isn't there a way for you to have at least a thought about releasing a steam app for Windows Phone?
Greetings^^
Sludge Metal Mike Mar 30, 2016 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by Razia:
Originally posted by Sludge Metal Mike:
yes
Hey there,
actually i gotta admit that its pretty sad to not be able to sell anything in steam spontaneously.
At least for Windows Phone User, such as i am.
Isn't there a way for you to have at least a thought about releasing a steam app for Windows Phone?
Greetings^^
I doubt they will release a windows phone app, there is an unauthorized on available for WP, use at your own risk
Razia Mar 30, 2016 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by Sludge Metal Mike:
Originally posted by Razia:
Hey there,
actually i gotta admit that its pretty sad to not be able to sell anything in steam spontaneously.
At least for Windows Phone User, such as i am.
Isn't there a way for you to have at least a thought about releasing a steam app for Windows Phone?
Greetings^^
I doubt they will release a windows phone app, there is an unauthorized on available for WP, use at your own risk
I already tried it.... It just simply said that there happened some kind of connection error. Don't mind i spelled something wrong or anything else, so as far as I searched, I haven't yet found any Steamm App working, sadly. It's pretty annoying to wait for arounf 15 days to trade with someone...
Razia Mar 30, 2016 @ 2:02pm 
Ah.. Would Steam acttually care about releasing an App for WP? Before i sound like a spammer... Well you seem to feel kinda confident when talking about Steam :P
[πKR] XtoX Mar 30, 2016 @ 2:38pm 
Same for me, only have a Windows Phone at home and don't want to wait 15 days because Valve don't care about us.
So from now and until Valve release a Windows Phone app i'll boycott the marketplace.
Paprastas Mar 30, 2016 @ 5:39pm 
They won't release an app on Windows OS since the coding is different and difficult to make something. I'm using as well phone with Windows OS, so i have the same problem.
Truly saying they don't even care about Windows OS phone users.
Even people having problem with Android and iOS app, so imagine the same problems with windows OS, just more often
Najgori Mar 30, 2016 @ 11:47pm 
Originally posted by Paprastas:
They won't release an app on Windows OS since the coding is different and difficult to make something.
WTF? Not true mate.....
Razia Mar 31, 2016 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by Paprastas:
They won't release an app on Windows OS since the coding is different and difficult to make something. I'm using as well phone with Windows OS, so i have the same problem.
Truly saying they don't even care about Windows OS phone users.
Even people having problem with Android and iOS app, so imagine the same problems with windows OS, just more often
Pretty sad when being honest... I mean they could disable the waiting-time or something or just simply let us sell things on our own responsiblity. I mean, they dont neccessarily have to release an App, there are many other solutions to a problem like this that can be considered.
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