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When mobile authenticator won't be necessary?
What the ♥♥♥♥ are doing all these years except adding stupid workshop skins to game?
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Eldin 27 Jul 2019 @ 4:16am 
Mobile authenticator is not necessary.
You can use Steam without it.
You'll just get trade holds without it.

And I don't see how your post title and content of the post are related to each other.
Dat Jonx 27 Jul 2019 @ 4:18am 
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Mobile authenticator is not necessary.
You can use Steam without it.
You'll just get trade holds without it.

And I don't see how your post title and content of the post are related to each other.

Yes, holds for a 2 weeks is not a big deal. Kappa
Levi 27 Jul 2019 @ 5:54am 
It exists for security reasons which you probably know nothing about.

:cozydbd:
Terakhir diedit oleh Levi; 27 Jul 2019 @ 5:54am
Dat Jonx 27 Jul 2019 @ 6:33am 
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It exists for security reasons which you probably know nothing about.

:cozydbd:

No. Everything works well with email.
AleRi0N_ 27 Jul 2019 @ 7:21am 
It's only neccesary for those who trade a lot and want to keep their account safe. Valve implemented it because as I'm sure you know there are a lot of dimwits who get either hijacked or scammed.
Maybe in a near future Valve will keep adding more secure measures as long as these kind of people exist. Stupidity can't be fixed.
Dat Jonx 27 Jul 2019 @ 7:34am 
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It's only neccesary for those who trade a lot and want to keep their account safe. Valve implemented it because as I'm sure you know there are a lot of dimwits who get either hijacked or scammed.
Maybe in a near future Valve will keep adding more secure measures as long as these kind of people exist. Stupidity can't be fixed.

Valve doesn't do anything.
Levi 27 Jul 2019 @ 7:45am 
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Robin3sk:
It exists for security reasons which you probably know nothing about.

:cozydbd:

No. Everything works well with email.

Again, you don't know anything at all, regarding why it exists and i'll just explain it anyway.

We already have E-mail authentication; but with this; you have holds — as E-mails can be easily compromised.

A remote access Trojan on your PC can do some unwanted things.

Victim downloads and executes the RAT -> Hijacker has access to victim's PC -> The hijacker puts up the item as a listing.

  • Option (A) The hijacker can access victim's e-mail, confirm the listing. The listing is held for 15 days, because the confirmation is done on a platform the thief can more easily access on the compromised device. Some people are so crazy; they leave their credentials or sessions up.

    The 15 days is leeway for the victim to notice what has happened and undo the damages.

  • Option (B) The thief can't access victim's mobile 2FA as it's on a wholly separate piece of hardware, thus they can't confirm the listing. Therefore listings are immediate as the risk of compromise is close to null.

Hence, why the mobile authenticator exists.

1) Confirmations are sent directly to the device

2) They can be cancelled at any time

3) It's a secure system.

4) The account is ALREADY logged in [authorized] on that device.


Diposting pertama kali oleh Cpt.Point:
Valve doesn't do anything.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/20631/

Try to be less ignorant,

:cozydbd:
Dat Jonx 27 Jul 2019 @ 7:47am 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Robin3sk:
Diposting pertama kali oleh Cpt.Point:

No. Everything works well with email.

Again, you don't know anything at all, regarding why it exists and i'll just explain it anyway.

We already have E-mail authentication; but with this; you have holds — as E-mails can be easily compromised.

A remote access Trojan on your PC can do some unwanted things.

Victim downloads and executes the RAT -> Hijacker has access to victim's PC -> The hijacker puts up the item as a listing.

  • Option (A) The hijacker can access victim's e-mail, confirm the listing. The listing is held for 15 days, because the confirmation is done on a platform the thief can more easily access on the compromised device. Some people are so crazy; they leave their credentials or sessions up.

    The 15 days is leeway for the victim to notice what has happened and undo the damages.

  • Option (B) The thief can't access victim's mobile 2FA as it's on a wholly separate piece of hardware, thus they can't confirm the listing. Therefore listings are immediate as the risk of compromise is close to null.

Hence, why the mobile authenticator exists.

1) Confirmations are sent directly to the device

2) They can be cancelled at any time

3) It's a secure system.

4) The account is ALREADY logged in [authorized] on that device.


Diposting pertama kali oleh Cpt.Point:
Valve doesn't do anything.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/20631/

Try to be less ignorant,

:cozydbd:

Why it's never happened to me?

Except pain in the ass with autheticator.
I know for certain that there is no way that trading would EVER recoup the cost of me having to have a cell phone to trade properly.

I turned the lights off in my inventory room since this stupid requirement went into action.

And still I see.. TONS of hijacked account threads..
Cathulhu 29 Jul 2019 @ 11:51pm 
Valve tried trading with simple e-mail authentication. Users clicked links and installed malware on their computer, malware traded all stuff away, users were unhappy and demanded Valve to give them their items back.
Valve introduced the Steam Mobile Authenticator and made it optional. People didn't use it, same stuff still happened.
Valve was sick of it, made the SMA mandatory for trades without holds and stopped restoring items.

That's why we can't have nice things.
Dat Jonx 30 Jul 2019 @ 12:17am 
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Valve tried trading with simple e-mail authentication. Users clicked links and installed malware on their computer, malware traded all stuff away, users were unhappy and demanded Valve to give them their items back.
Valve introduced the Steam Mobile Authenticator and made it optional. People didn't use it, same stuff still happened.
Valve was sick of it, made the SMA mandatory for trades without holds and stopped restoring items.

That's why we can't have nice things.

Because people stupid and Valve can't stop ignore idiots?
Cathulhu 30 Jul 2019 @ 12:31am 
Especially when those idiots flood support with tickets so hard it took literally weeks to get a reply due to the backlog.
Now replies are within hours. So, what Valve did worked.
OP please explain how Steam workshop related to needing Steam guard / Steam mobile authenticator by your title, and content of your OP.

Do research for once why this restriction was placed on trading.

Diposting pertama kali oleh RedLightning:
I know for certain that there is no way that trading would EVER recoup the cost of me having to have a cell phone to trade properly.

I turned the lights off in my inventory room since this stupid requirement went into action.

And still I see.. TONS of hijacked account threads..
None of the authenticators of any kind, may it be google, Steam, Blizzard, whatever prevent getting hijacked, they only aid making difficult for trying brute force into the account as it's a tool. The issue is that they login in to an scam sites, or giving their details to people, which the issue occur.

Restriction helps prevents sudden lost of times like in the old days before they have these restrictions, which back then if they login, your items are gone just like that, nothing can be done about it, today they get hit with 15 days hold, which is more than enough time to get account back as normally they can take from one hour upto few days getting the account back.
Dat Jonx 30 Jul 2019 @ 2:04am 
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OP please explain how Steam workshop related to needing Steam guard / Steam mobile authenticator by your title, and content of your OP.

Better you explain me how Workshop is related to this, because I never noted it.
Diposting pertama kali oleh Cpt.Point:
Diposting pertama kali oleh Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
OP please explain how Steam workshop related to needing Steam guard / Steam mobile authenticator by your title, and content of your OP.

Better you explain me how Workshop is related to this, because I never noted it.
Scroll to the top.
https://imgur.com/nvmcn4R

Title and content do not match, or explain what you were saying in the OP. I want to make sure you were aware of it.
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