60+ FPS Is a Scam...

[Stakanov]

I don’t get why people think 60 FPS is a must. 30 FPS is already more than enough. Honestly, even 20 FPS is fine.. Anything beyond that? Completely unnecessary.

Movies run at 24 FPS, and nobody complains. The human eye can’t even see beyond 30 FPS... This whole 60+ FPS thing is just marketing nonsense. Instead of wasting power on useless frames, devs should focus on graphics and gameplay!

Higher FPS is just placebo + flex. Until we turn into cyborgs, it’s pointless. Facts.

[D. Flame]

24 FPS is fine for movies because they are not interactive.

Now get me my well done steak with extra Ketchup.

[eram]

a recent study showed that some peoples eyes are just bad and 30fps for them is more than enough
for everyone else 60fps 100fps 200fps are all doable.

ops eyes are bad thats all.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/03/not-people-can-see-difference-60fps-30fps-reveals-study-20581570/

[MonkaShift]

Originally posted by Stakanov:

Movies run at 24 FPS, and nobody complains. The human eye can’t even see beyond 30 FPS...

It always amazes me how this meme from 2005 is still being used in topics about FPS, 20 years later.. lol.

[eram]

Originally posted by Jarek Ranger:

Originally posted by Stakanov:

Movies run at 24 FPS, and nobody complains. The human eye can’t even see beyond 30 FPS...

It always amazes me how this meme from 2005 is still being used in topics about FPS, 20 years later.. lol.

the ops eyes may not be able to tell the difference so they assume its the same for everyone else. all they are doing is outing the fact they have bad eyes and are unaware of the fact.

[Knee]

Is off topic not offering you enough attention?

[MonkaShift]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by Jarek Ranger:

It always amazes me how this meme from 2005 is still being used in topics about FPS, 20 years later.. lol.

the ops eyes may not be able to tell the difference so they assume its the same for everyone else. all they are doing is outing the fact they have bad eyes and are unaware of the fact.

True, and that study is only comparing 30 vs 60 fps. OP is even taking it a step further with "20 fps" being fine.

I have never heard anyone who can't tell the difference between 20 and 100 fps. Just like i never heard anyone who wants to go back to a 60hz monitor after played on a 144+ one.

[J4MESOX4D]

3 hours later and not a single jester to add to the OP's collection.

What a travesty.

[B✪✪tsy]

It really depends on the game what FPS is needed. 30 fps in a racing game/sim is horrible, even 60 fps looks and feels choppy when you are in a fast car. However, 30 fps is fine if you play something like a city builder game or a platformer like Terraria.

[Stakanov]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

24 FPS is fine for movies because they are not interactive.

Now get me my well done steak with extra Ketchup.

Movies prove that 24 FPS is smooth enough for the human eye, and 30 FPS is already overkill for gaming. The idea that games need 60+ FPS is just a myth pushed by hardware companies. Higher frame rates might feel different, but they’re not necessary, your eyes can’t even process the difference beyond 30 FPS in most cases. Stick to your steak, but don’t pretend you need more frames to enjoy a game...

Originally posted by eram:

a recent study showed that some peoples eyes are just bad and 30fps for them is more than enough
for everyone else 60fps 100fps 200fps are all doable.

ops eyes are bad thats all.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/03/not-people-can-see-difference-60fps-30fps-reveals-study-20581570/

Studies confirm 30 FPS is the maximum the human eye can process. Anything beyond that is overkill and unnecessary. If you think you need 60+ FPS, you’re falling for marketing hype. Also, why are you following me on every topic? Weird.

[Stakanov]

Originally posted by Knee:

Is off topic not offering you enough attention?

Funny how you’re here commenting instead of enjoying your overhyped frame rates.

Originally posted by Jarek Ranger:

Originally posted by eram:

the ops eyes may not be able to tell the difference so they assume its the same for everyone else. all they are doing is outing the fact they have bad eyes and are unaware of the fact.

True, and that study is only comparing 30 vs 60 fps. OP is even taking it a step further with "20 fps" being fine.

I have never heard anyone who can't tell the difference between 20 and 100 fps. Just like i never heard anyone who wants to go back to a 60hz monitor after played on a 144+ one.

The study proves 30 FPS is the maximum needed for smooth visuals. 20 FPS can be fine for slower games, and 60+ FPS is just overkill. As for monitors, most people don’t need 144Hz, it’s a luxury, not a necessity. If you can’t enjoy a game at 30 FPS, that’s a you problem, not a frame rate problem.

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

3 hours later and not a single jester to add to the OP's collection.

What a travesty.

30 FPS is the maximum the human eye needs, and no amount of clowning changes that.

Originally posted by B✪✪tsy:

It really depends on the game what FPS is needed. 30 fps in a racing game/sim is horrible, even 60 fps looks and feels choppy when you are in a fast car. However, 30 fps is fine if you play something like a city builder game or a platformer like Terraria.

30 FPS is the maximum the human eye needs, even in fast-paced games. If 30 FPS feels “choppy” to you, it’s likely due to poor optimization or placebo. Movies at 24 FPS handle fast motion just fine, why can’t games at 30 FPS? Higher frame rates are a preference, not a requirement.

[salva早晨享用的咖啡]

salva eye cannot perceive below 60 fps. is slide show...

[nullable]

Originally posted by Jarek Ranger:

Originally posted by Stakanov:

Movies run at 24 FPS, and nobody complains. The human eye can’t even see beyond 30 FPS...

It always amazes me how this meme from 2005 is still being used in topics about FPS, 20 years later.. lol.

People were dumb about FPS and vision long before 2005 I'm afraid.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Stakanov:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

24 FPS is fine for movies because they are not interactive.

Now get me my well done steak with extra Ketchup.

Movies prove that 24 FPS is smooth enough for the human eye, and 30 FPS is already overkill for gaming. The idea that games need 60+ FPS is just a myth pushed by hardware companies. Higher frame rates might feel different, but they’re not necessary, your eyes can’t even process the difference beyond 30 FPS in most cases. Stick to your steak, but don’t pretend you need more frames to enjoy a game...

Originally posted by eram:

a recent study showed that some peoples eyes are just bad and 30fps for them is more than enough
for everyone else 60fps 100fps 200fps are all doable.

ops eyes are bad thats all.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/03/not-people-can-see-difference-60fps-30fps-reveals-study-20581570/

Studies confirm 30 FPS is the maximum the human eye can process. Anything beyond that is overkill and unnecessary. If you think you need 60+ FPS, you’re falling for marketing hype. Also, why are you following me on every topic? Weird.

Studies don't confirm that.

If that were the case, I could switch my monitor's refresh rate to 30Hz and it should look not different than it being at 144Hz. Which won't happen.

Just some research[www.healthline.com] that shows you're wrong.

[Mad Scientist]

Someone already made an identical thread not too long ago.
Try 30Hz Interlaced and get back to us on what the experience is like for Multiplayer FPS play.

[Amaterasu]

Look, we all know that the human eye can only see 0 FPS. Because the human eye isn't a camera and doesn't work like that.