SteamOS what do you think about it ?

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[Don Vincenzoo 57]

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

Originally posted by pnz:

There's no fear, only annoyance and frustration.

I got into a thing a year or so back where I got sick of Windows so I started playing around with other OS I could install on my desktop. Linux was the prime one to choose from. I can't recall what OS I decided at the time, but there was general agreement it was the most "newbie friendly".

At first I was really impressed with it, because the interface was smooth and it installed what I had thought, all of my drivers properly. Turns out the Nvidia card I had, didn't have like, offical Linux drivers, instead I had to download something special. Okay, sure whatever.

So the first thing I tried was installing World of Warcraft because so many people said how easy it was and how well it run. Well it turned out to be a pain in the ass for me, after ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around and reading online documents and stuff, I finally got it installed.

Except it didn't run properly. It was then I found out even though my GPU had the proper drivers, the 3D rendering was disabled and I had to turn it on, except the OS didn't tell me how to do that.

And honestly? I was sick of it, I was like ♥♥♥♥ this. Why ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bother when I can install Windows and just have it to EVERYTHING for me? I stuff ♥♥♥♥ into my computer and it just does it.

I DON'T want what Linux has to offer, you might call it fear, I call it hate.

You know that Steam os based on linux. ok.
but you know th player xperience in mind will be Easy to use. select, click and play .

Valve don't give those news with a crappy os who will bring more trouble compare to what we have now ... it is design to be easy to use like a console !

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

i will keep windows but dual boot with steam os too ! i already have a SSD ready for that !! can not wait anymore!

I don't see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ point, honestly, WHY? Why dual boot into Steam OS when your games will most likely run better it their native enviroment anyways? Are you just that stupid?

Yep, rebooting is exactly the opposite of what anyone wants to do with a htpc, the point of the thing is convenience. Anyways by default if its powerful enough to play modern games, and does htpc duties, it will probably be running windows anyways, making the os redundant. If a free os is enticing, your "htpc" will probably be old hardware incapable of playing games in the first place, making it pointless, and you'd just be better off leaving it as a htpc.

This is one of those things that would be cool, if your high end htpc was free. Once people realize they have to throw down cash for that part too, they won't bother.

[rinaldop]

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

Originally posted by rinaldop:

".)No, what is going to happen is Valve is going to let whoever updates Wine, do their thing, if you game doesn't work well or at all, all you can do is hope at some point it does.

Or I can just say NO THANKS to this new gimmick and play my games in their native OS and not some emulator like Wine.

[Don Vincenzoo 57]

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

cause i want to support this.
-->windows game not on steam os native : i will play them on windows like now! until those games become useless for me.

-->Steam os native games : i will play them on Steam os and all my futur library will be on it.

after few years i will have all my games on Steam os wich is design for Games.

i don't play to old games. but if i want retro compatibility : i just kep my old windows games on a dd with steam and put it in an futur old PC in cas i want to play again with.

they have to start a day. so yes your actual windows game you will always have to play them through windows. no Problem !! steam will always be on windows.

but with time all the games will be native on Steam os and i already prefer play on Steam os cause it's free os with better optimisation for games. i see no problem here.
at the beginning like now : dual boot. reboot will take less than 15s with ssd. definitively not a problem here ...

You are insane and a ton of your statements are largely innacurate, but I am not going to bother arguing with someone who is autistic.

so you're just a troll or what ? you came here! cry it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cause you don't understand why i will install steam os and after i explain in detail why you just insult me and have no argument to give .... ok ok ... just go read something else so if you are not able to have a conversation .

[Don Vincenzoo 57]

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ #idle:

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

I don't see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ point, honestly, WHY? Why dual boot into Steam OS when your games will most likely run better it their native enviroment anyways? Are you just that stupid?

Yep, rebooting is exactly the opposite of what anyone wants to do with a htpc, the point of the thing is convenience. .

ok but i talk about my desktop gaming pc : i use it to play, watch movi on tv, manage music and photoshop.
i restart it often.

and those new guy who will jump on Steam Machine(open console) will just start to buy nw games and AAA games and they will not hav any problem about windows games and all that stuff.

instead just release a close console Steam try to connect the pc world and the console world.
Stam os is the link betwen the 2 world !

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ #idle:

Yep, rebooting is exactly the opposite of what anyone wants to do with a htpc, the point of the thing is convenience. .

ok but i talk about my gaming pc : i use it to play, watch movi on tv, manage music and photoshop.
i restart it often.

and those new guy who will jump on Steam Machine(open console) will just start to buy nw games and AAA games and they will not hav any problem about windows games and all that stuff.

instead just release a close console Steam try to connect the pc world and the console world.
Stam os is the link betwen the 2 world !

If you restart it often, you are doing it wrong, you should be able to go many days without any issues, at minimum, and turning pc's off isn't necessary now, sleep modes work, instant on, instant off. I never restart to play games, hell I dont even close most things before I start gaming, thats the convenience of gaming on a pc.

Steam os isn't a link, its a shot in the dark. The problem is people who care enough to invest in pc's that can play AAA games generally aren't going to double that spend to build a duplicate for their tv. That money could easily be used to build an even better gaming pc in the first place. Steambox built with used parts of just your hand me down pc isn't going to play AAA games in most cases, meaning it will be steam second rate gaming system. People who aren't into pc gaming aren't going to spend enough to make a AAA steam os pc. So I think its targeting a market that doesn't exist. Sure of course if peole got the gaming htpc free, it would be no questions necessary, throw on steam os for some games, but when its money out of your pocket, it stops making sense.

[Ōkami Amaterasu]

Originally posted by rinaldop:

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

Or I can just say NO THANKS to this new gimmick and play my games in their native OS and not some emulator like Wine.

ha. did you know that wine is an acronym for "wine is not an emulator". it doesn't emulate, it just adds exe support

[Ōkami Amaterasu]

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ #idle:

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

ok but i talk about my gaming pc : i use it to play, watch movi on tv, manage music and photoshop.
i restart it often.

and those new guy who will jump on Steam Machine(open console) will just start to buy nw games and AAA games and they will not hav any problem about windows games and all that stuff.

instead just release a close console Steam try to connect the pc world and the console world.
Stam os is the link betwen the 2 world !

If you restart it often, you are doing it wrong, you should be able to go many days without any issues, at minimum, and turning pc's off isn't necessary now, sleep modes work, instant on, instant off. I never restart to play games, hell I dont even close most things before I start gaming, thats the convenience of gaming on a pc.

Steam os isn't a link, its a shot in the dark. The problem is people who care enough to invest in pc's that can play AAA games generally aren't going to double that spend to build a duplicate for their tv. That money could easily be used to build an even better gaming pc in the first place. Steambox built with used parts of just your hand me down pc isn't going to play AAA games in most cases, meaning it will be steam second rate gaming system. People who aren't into pc gaming aren't going to spend enough to make a AAA steam os pc. So I think its targeting a market that doesn't exist. Sure of course if peole got the gaming htpc free, it would be no questions necessary, throw on steam os for some games, but when its money out of your pocket, it stops making sense.

thank you for telling me how I should use my computer

[rinaldop]

Originally posted by UAŌkami Amaterasu:

ha. did you know that wine is an acronym for "wine is not an emulator". it doesn't emulate, it just adds exe support

LOL cute, that doesn't mean it will run as well as on the original OS.

[Don Vincenzoo 57]

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ #idle:

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

ok but i talk about my gaming pc : i use it to play, watch movi on tv, manage music and photoshop.
i restart it often.

and those new guy who will jump on Steam Machine(open console) will just start to buy nw games and AAA games and they will not hav any problem about windows games and all that stuff.

instead just release a close console Steam try to connect the pc world and the console world.
Stam os is the link betwen the 2 world !

If you restart it often, you are doing it wrong, you should be able to go many days without any issues, at minimum, and turning pc's off isn't necessary now, sleep modes work, instant on, instant off. I never restart to play games, hell I dont even close most things before I start gaming, thats the convenience of gaming on a pc.

Steam os isn't a link, its a shot in the dark. The problem is people who care enough to invest in pc's that can play AAA games generally aren't going to double that spend to build a duplicate for their tv. That money could easily be used to build an even better gaming pc in the first place. Steambox built with used parts of just your hand me down pc isn't going to play AAA games in most cases, meaning it will be steam second rate gaming system. People who aren't into pc gaming aren't going to spend enough to make a AAA steam os pc. So I think its targeting a market that doesn't exist. Sure of course if peole got the gaming htpc free, it would be no questions necessary, throw on steam os for some games, but when its money out of your pocket, it stops making sense.

i think we don't understand well ... Steam Machine will be a consol like with Steam pad. that will bring all the PC advantage to console World.
a console player will not buy a pc but a Steam machine : he will have 300games at start and all the futur games who will be developp on stam os.


PC world nothing change for us if we want.
but if we want to support the whole project caus we think it's awesome we can install the Steam os on our gaming pc caus more user mean more sex appeal for devs.

we can also build our own Steam Machine with old PC parts and use it to stream on a tv while the big noisy pc is in an other room.

or (like you say if i undrstand well? ) invest money and build a Steam Machine(SM) to play games and use it like a media center.

we just have a lot of option and choice. but Steam os will be optimised for games and games will run better on it compare to windows if the industry jump in.

So i support the concept and will install Steam os to play my games on my gaming PC.

as we know my actual library on Steam is windows games.
to be able to play them i just keep windows install too (dual boot).
with time (1 or 2 years) the majority of games i will buy on Steam will be Steam os native.
cause i have more interest in new games compare to oldies i will stop dual boot(or do it less) and only use Steam os to play my games on my desktop Gaming PC.
basically i will use windows for CS6 or stuff like that and all Gaming activity with steam os.

[LastCaress]

can't wait for it!

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

Originally posted by MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ #idle:

If you restart it often, you are doing it wrong, you should be able to go many days without any issues, at minimum, and turning pc's off isn't necessary now, sleep modes work, instant on, instant off. I never restart to play games, hell I dont even close most things before I start gaming, thats the convenience of gaming on a pc.

Steam os isn't a link, its a shot in the dark. The problem is people who care enough to invest in pc's that can play AAA games generally aren't going to double that spend to build a duplicate for their tv. That money could easily be used to build an even better gaming pc in the first place. Steambox built with used parts of just your hand me down pc isn't going to play AAA games in most cases, meaning it will be steam second rate gaming system. People who aren't into pc gaming aren't going to spend enough to make a AAA steam os pc. So I think its targeting a market that doesn't exist. Sure of course if peole got the gaming htpc free, it would be no questions necessary, throw on steam os for some games, but when its money out of your pocket, it stops making sense.

i think we don't understand well ... Steam Machine will be a consol like with Steam pad. that will bring all the PC advantage to console World.
a console player will not buy a pc but a Steam machine : he will have 300games at start and all the futur games who will be developp on stam os.


PC world nothing change for us if we want.
but if we want to support the whole project caus we think it's awesome we can install the Steam os on our gaming pc caus more user mean more sex appeal for devs.

we can also build our own Steam Machine with old PC parts and use it to stream on a tv while the big noisy pc is in an other room.

or (like you say if i undrstand well? ) invest money and build a Steam Machine(SM) to play games and use it like a media center.

we just have a lot of option and choice. but Steam os will be optimised for games and games will run better on it compare to windows if the industry jump in.

So i support the concept and will install Steam os to play my games on my gaming PC.

as we know my actual library on Steam is windows games.
to be able to play them i just keep windows install too (dual boot).
with time (1 or 2 years) the majority of games i will buy on Steam will be Steam os native.
cause i have more interest in new games compare to oldies i will stop dual boot(or do it less) and only use Steam os to play my games on my desktop Gaming PC.
basically i will use windows for CS6 or stuff like that and all Gaming activity with steam os.

Yea no, because once valve has to charge 600+ dollars for an actual AAA game capable "console" pc, you won't buy it. It sounds like a good idea until it costs money.

Consoles have the advantage of being sold as loss leaders with mass production to lower costs. You just don't have that with steam console.

[Kuehnau]

Originally posted by Don Vincenzoo 57:

Originally posted by Kuehnau:

You are insane and a ton of your statements are largely innacurate, but I am not going to bother arguing with someone who is autistic.

so you're just a troll or what ? you came here! cry it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cause you don't understand why i will install steam os and after i explain in detail why you just insult me and have no argument to give .... ok ok ... just go read something else so if you are not able to have a conversation .

Since you insist on embarassing yourself, why not?

A large majority of PC games are Windows/Mac OS native. Games supporting Linux has only recently become a fad in the industry due to a large support for indie developers. Because Linux users are usually not the target for large industry developers, there came a need for something like WINE to add support for Non Linux games.

If you already run a Windows machine, there's no reason to go with Steam OS. Why? It's simple, because while the vast majority of PC games usually don't have Linux support, almost every Linux game on Steam has WIndows support.

I honestly don't believe the gaming industry will ever fully embrace Linux, that's just the way it goes, to just ASSUME at some point every game on Steam supports Linux is just asinine.

You sound stupid for a very simple reason, I am willing to bet most if not ALL of your Steam games supports Windows and yet you sit there and talk about dual booting with the Steam OS for what? To support something that may not fully or even accurately run your software library?

In one statement you talk about how one day Steam's software will have universal support and yet in another you talk about how you'll always have Windows for games that don't. So what is it?

The bottom line is, you are an idiot, the statements you make are purely based on an incorrect opinion you collected from somewhere, your assumption of what the Steam OS will be isn't what the reality of the matter is and yet you continue to argue you.

Bottom line, why fix what isn't broken? Steam OS isn't for Windows gamers and never will be.

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ #idle isn't telling you how to use your computer, they are, in a polite way, telling you, you are being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.

[Kuehnau]

Originally posted by UAŌkami Amaterasu:

Originally posted by rinaldop:

ha. did you know that wine is an acronym for "wine is not an emulator". it doesn't emulate, it just adds exe support

That's real cute and all, but the reality of it is, Linux can't run Windows games without support from WINE. WINE isn't windows and isn't offical, for all intents and purposes I consider it an emulator.

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This will be the biggest shake up of the gaming industry since the 3DO and Playstation was released (Yes I'm old enough to remember the 3DO and the Goldstar Version, and yes I know there was a Mega Drive CD but who ever brought one.)