SteamOS what do you think about it ?

[NATURE]

http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

-Valve’s SteamOS is now free to download

-Download SteamOS here:
http://repo.steampowered.com/download/

http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/

-SteamOS FAQ
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/648814395741989999/

[Kuehnau]

Steam OS seems like a great idea on paper, a free OS that lets me just run STEAM and play my games. That is what my desktop is right now ANYWAYS.

Here's the thing, the OS is still built around Linux, which means that not all of my game library will be supported. Hell, not even all hardware will be supported by Steam OS. I've literally had graphic cards that refused to work properly in Linux.

If I could install Steam OS and replace Windows as my OS and still have access to my full library, NetFlix and web pages, you bet your sweet ass I'd convert to Steam OS, that'd be amazing. But I can't and I won't. It means NOTHING for those of us who uses a Windows based desktop.

[Sava]

I think it will be interesting to see in and I think it allow developers to modify it easily (as mentioned open source). My only concern is that they'll ditch PC. And I think its gonna be a problem that you need 2 PCs. You could just connect that PC in big picture to your tv, no need for another piece of hardware

[Kuehnau]

Herobrine(andrejsavikin) の投稿を引用：

I think it will be interesting to see in and I think it allow developers to modify it easily (as mentioned open source). My only concern is that they'll ditch PC. And I think its gonna be a problem that you need 2 PCs. You could just connect that PC in big picture to your tv, no need for another piece of hardware

Exactly how would they "ditch" PCs? The Steam Box is nothing more then a Linux based media center. Besides that, their entire distribution platform is based around PC gamers, it's not going to happen.

I am more annoyed with Valve's sudden boner for Linux. Until Linux is as main stream as Windows, until it supports all my programs and hardware 100%, I am not going to convert just because someone over at Valve is on their peroid about Windows.

[jambutty]

If its based on debian I hope you can still sudo apt-get moo, beacuse otherwise what's the point?

[Kuehnau]

jambutty77 の投稿を引用：

If its based on debian I hope you can still sudo apt-get moo, beacuse otherwise what's the point?

I am willing to bet, most likely not. steamOS is most likely designed for their steam box coming out in 2014, to bring their paltform into people's living rooms. I assume their target clients aren't going to want to ♥♥♥♥ around with stuff like that, they are going to want to plug it in and use it.

By allowing people to easily have access to command lines and the internal workings of their software, they open themselves up to millions of more complaints and problems then they would have before.

[nya[dc]]

Kuehnau の投稿を引用：

jambutty77 の投稿を引用：

If its based on debian I hope you can still sudo apt-get moo, beacuse otherwise what's the point?

I am willing to bet, most likely not. steamOS is most likely designed for their steam box coming out in 2014, to bring their paltform into people's living rooms. I assume their target clients aren't going to want to ♥♥♥♥ around with stuff like that, they are going to want to plug it in and use it.

By allowing people to easily have access to command lines and the internal workings of their software, they open themselves up to millions of more complaints and problems then they would have before.

Which is exactly why traditional consoles are a closed source system, the consumers would render the software unusable if they had backend access to it causing massive issues. If this is an open source OS on their proprietary hardware then there are going to be A LOT of problems.

[Kuehnau]

Nya` の投稿を引用：

Kuehnau の投稿を引用：

I am willing to bet, most likely not. steamOS is most likely designed for their steam box coming out in 2014, to bring their paltform into people's living rooms. I assume their target clients aren't going to want to ♥♥♥♥ around with stuff like that, they are going to want to plug it in and use it.

By allowing people to easily have access to command lines and the internal workings of their software, they open themselves up to millions of more complaints and problems then they would have before.

Which is exactly why traditional consoles are a closed source system, the consumers would render the software unusable if they had backend access to it causing massive issues. If this is an open source OS on their proprietary hardware then there are going to be A LOT of problems.

I am going to guess it's going to work a lot like Android phones, where, if people have the know how and will to do so, they can compile their own versions of the OS, but it's not going to be something you can just do out of the box, or ♥♥♥♥ up the entire thing without having to jump through some hurdles first.

[jambutty]

Nya` の投稿を引用：

Kuehnau の投稿を引用：

I am willing to bet, most likely not. steamOS is most likely designed for their steam box coming out in 2014, to bring their paltform into people's living rooms. I assume their target clients aren't going to want to ♥♥♥♥ around with stuff like that, they are going to want to plug it in and use it.

By allowing people to easily have access to command lines and the internal workings of their software, they open themselves up to millions of more complaints and problems then they would have before.

Which is exactly why traditional consoles are a closed source system, the consumers would render the software unusable if they had backend access to it causing massive issues. If this is an open source OS on their proprietary hardware then there are going to be A LOT of problems.

Hmmm that was my attempt at a rather turd joke damn you emtionless internet!!!
I just hope that whatever Valve decide to with this piece of software it will be thoroughly tested. I remember the days of NDISwrapper on older versions of linux all too well, not to mention I tried Unity on Ubuntu (which is a super dump UI) I was still getting kernel panics, in 2013!!

[Panzer]

Nya` の投稿を引用：

Kuehnau の投稿を引用：

I am willing to bet, most likely not. steamOS is most likely designed for their steam box coming out in 2014, to bring their paltform into people's living rooms. I assume their target clients aren't going to want to ♥♥♥♥ around with stuff like that, they are going to want to plug it in and use it.

By allowing people to easily have access to command lines and the internal workings of their software, they open themselves up to millions of more complaints and problems then they would have before.

Which is exactly why traditional consoles are a closed source system, the consumers would render the software unusable if they had backend access to it causing massive issues. If this is an open source OS on their proprietary hardware then there are going to be A LOT of problems.

In the Valve repositories, there is a recovery image. That's for when you screw things up and need to revert back to the defaults. They anticipated that people might screw things up, and that's covered.

They mentioned you will be able to play around with the Steam machine, install anything/any OS etc, so I guess you'll be able to do just that. One might think along the lines of installing a shell designed for normal computing (like GNOME/Unity/KDE/XFCE etc) on top of Steam OS on a laptop. Sign in to the computer with the default Steam OS shell for it to be a "living room" machine, and sign in to it with the other shell for normal computing.

I think it will be a big plus for Linux users if SteamOS gave access to the command line, but I also forsee problems if a non-Linux savvy user starts playing around with the terminal. The recovery image had better be easy to restore to.

[Farmer]

but What about windowsOS mouse system and steamOS mouse system, i'm afraid it's different

p/s: srr for my bad english

[carbonytte]

Yomi <3 Kotori (^･o･^)ﾉ” の投稿を引用：

but What about windowsOS mouse system and steamOS mouse system, i'm afraid it's different

p/s: srr for my bad english

hence the reason you use analog gamepad controller.

[Ōkami Amaterasu]

I heard rumors that only Nvidia card drivers were optimized for steamos. I hope that's not true for the sake of my HD 7850

[carbonytte]

UAŌkami Amaterasu の投稿を引用：

I heard rumors that only Nvidia card drivers were optimized for steamos. I hope that's not true for the sake of my HD 7850

it isn't really about optimizing nVidia for steamOS. It is actually about nVidia finally confirming that they sucked at supporting nVidia for Linux, and with steamOS built around Linux, they saw the light coming (just my guess, assuming steamOS is Linux you might be able to run to run those games in Debian / Ubuntu / Fedora / Red Hat / Mandriva / whatever-x86-Linux-flavor-you'd-like).

ATI driver support in Linux since they're from AMD, and both AMD and Intel are good supporters of Linux (although Intel sometimes have their own way in Linux such as support over Intel-owned C compiler rather than the GNU C Compiler, but that's a different story, not for this thread), so you shouldn't be worried much.

[Drhankey]

I sincerely hope I can replace my Windows with SteamOS. Greatest news ever, only an announcement of Half-Life 3 could surpass it in greatness. :P

[VenusInFurs]

As long as my complete library isn't available on steamos, i'm not switching over from windows.
ive even considered getting a steam machine and putting windows in it to use as pc gaming