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Darian 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:05 p. m.
Will Valve now start removing all games that are controversial or distasteful?
I'm serious, either Valve simply bucked under pressure of political activists because they feared losing money, or they have drank the cool aid
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Lost Tourist 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:33 p. m. 
It was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game anyway 1/10
Rogue One 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:34 p. m. 
I still don't see how it is any different than games like Postal 2.

Sure, Postal 2 is meant to be more comical, while Hatred looks very dark and serious. And I'll admit, I probably wouldn't play it because of that. And yes, Postal 2 has more to it. But you can't sit there and tell me that when the devs made Postal 2 that they didn't intend for you to kill everyone.

Everyone is killable, you have tons of weapons, NPCs act like jerks to you (which eases any guilt), and the entire point of the game seems to be to do simple everyday tasks in the most insane, extreme way possible. In fact, one could say that the objectives of the game are only there so people can't say it's just a killing simulator.
Última edición por Rogue One; 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:36 p. m.
suksas 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:37 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Fenrir007:
Publicado originalmente por Ama Ki Ellikayara:
Postal 1 has more to it, still. Try actually playing the games before you bring them up as a defense.

Not mentioning children, then-- Okay, how about mentally unstable individuals?

Mentally unstable individuals may be triggered by a plethora of things and should be in treatment.

Are you going to sanitize society based on a select few that have mental problems? Again, alcohol is known to cause violent behavior and raise criminality across the board, and minors have easy access to that. Should we ban it as well? How many things will we ban until we live in your utopia? How much more must we lose to live in your risk-free bubble?

Also, how come since violent games appeared, statistics have shown a decline in violence amongst younger people?
I can atest to that. My school fights droped to a bare minimum when I was younger as I let the steam out playing stuff like gta. Lol, my parents actually aproved of it.
Offcourse my parents actually bothered to teach me wright from wrong and why it's allowed in video game.
TWCroc 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:38 p. m. 
There is never a legitimate argument for censorship. Which this is as it was confirmed by Doug Lombardi to be censorship due to content.
Mikoto 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:40 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Therac-25:
Publicado originalmente por Sarok:

I said that, I mean you did quote me afterall.

Also with how many alt accounts are on steam, it is hard to clearly say how many actual unique individuals voted for that game, it could have been a pr team or the devs that made spam accounts.


Yeah, dude, a 10-man independant publisher from Poland is really going to risk getting banned from Steam for vote gaming.

Is it that hard to belive that lots of people like games about sensless violence?

Well I would agree with you but just recently a small dev team thought it would be a good idea to publicly issue a death threat to gaben over their game. Since there now is a precident of stupid in development teams, no matter the size, I wouldn't put it past any games developers/publishers to do something stupid like that.

Also sensless violence is fine (I mean hell I own every Saints Row game released so far) my stance is that for a game to have sensless violence then it needs something more to it (like comedy for example) to balance it out and make it an all around fun experience.

So I fully understand why this game was pulled if not just for the fact that it was only offering a murder simulator type experience, not a well rounded senseless violence experience.
Norenfel 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:41 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Sarok:
Publicado originalmente por Fenrir007:

"Now we get a game that honestly looks like crap blocked and people flip out? "

"Steam cant win these days"

Seems to me like you are heavily implying it isn't your sole opinion here. Either that, or you think of yourself as the gatekeeper of quality in here. I gfave you the benefit of the doubt and went withy the first one.

Ok so you are "special" then, got it, no need to reply to you anymore.

You're not replying to him because he's got you nailed down.

What if it were a game you were looking forward to seeing on Steam? Would you still support it being yanked off the site? For that matter, what if a TV show or movie you were really looking forward to ended up not being broadcast or played at a theater near you? Would you be angry, or would you just be another drone that's happy to let someone else determine what's good for you?
Clark Kent 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:41 p. m. 
I very much hope not. Damn I'm really, really disappointed in valve's decision to remove the game. I was going to buy it and give it a try, I thought that possibly it had some sort of "psychological horror" aspect to it, which I very much enjoy
LemonRush7777 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:41 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Sarok:
Publicado originalmente por Therac-25:


Yeah, dude, a 10-man independant publisher from Poland is really going to risk getting banned from Steam for vote gaming.

Is it that hard to belive that lots of people like games about sensless violence?

Well I would agree with you but just recently a small dev team thought it would be a good idea to publicly issue a death threat to gaben over their game. Since there now is a precident of stupid in development teams, no matter the size, I wouldn't put it past any games developers/publishers to do something stupid like that.

Also sensless violence is fine (I mean hell I own every Saints Row game released so far) my stance is that for a game to have sensless violence then it needs something more to it (like comedy for example) to balance it out and make it an all around fun experience.

So I fully understand why this game was pulled if not just for the fact that it was only offering a murder simulator type experience, not a well rounded senseless violence experience.

Just because one human did something stupid doesn't mean the entire planet is also stupid. Don't project the faults of a weak willed individual on other game devs.
suksas 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:42 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Ama Ki Ellikayara:
Publicado originalmente por Fenrir007:

It is in Postal 1 - a game also available on Steam.

Also, what is the problem with killing civilians...? Are you implying this could rig our brains and turn us into murderers or something? Don't bother mentioning children, this game wouldn't be meant for them (and just like with alcohol, it is their parents' fault if they manage to get it anyway).
Postal 1 has more to it, still. Try actually playing the games before you bring them up as a defense.

Not mentioning children, then-- Okay, how about mentally unstable individuals?

Wouldn't mentally unstable individuals be set of by right about any violent game? If we worry now about these people then we should ban every FPS,horror,hack and slash, most RPG, Every single Moba out there (come on Valve. I dare you to remove Dota2 rom sale as it's to violent and acidic.) and 90% of games ouyt there. Think only racing, sex and puzzle games should exist then.
Then we will be more or less safe.
Deadweight 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:44 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Fenrir007:
Publicado originalmente por Ama Ki Ellikayara:
Postal 1 has more to it, still. Try actually playing the games before you bring them up as a defense.

Not mentioning children, then-- Okay, how about mentally unstable individuals?

Mentally unstable individuals may be triggered by a plethora of things and should be in treatment.

Are you going to sanitize society based on a select few that have mental problems? Again, alcohol is known to cause violent behavior and raise criminality across the board, and minors have easy access to that. Should we ban it as well? How many things will we ban until we live in your utopia? How much more must we lose to live in your risk-free bubble?

Also, how come since violent games appeared, statistics have shown a decline in violence amongst younger people?
Careful, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You'll hurt yourself.

I can speak from this view because I technically am mentally unstable and have undergone treatment. Not everyone is so lucky-- some can't afford it, some are outright ignored, and some never even find out they're unstable. Children are impressionable, too, even if you want to deny it.

I'm for Postal, I'm for GTA, Manhunt, Carmaggeddon, Saint's Row, and whatever other games you can throw in defence of your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. I'm anti-SJW. I understand the need of stress-relief through games. Still against Hatred.

I advise you to look deeper into those studies. There's biase and it's quite clear. Regardless, do we really need this game to undo the work that so many people have done to rid the stereotype that gamers are all psychotic freaks? That's what this would do-- no goal but to kill innocents.

I apologise for having moral standards instead of being an anarchistic ball of 'Hatred'.
Mikoto 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:46 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por aragrimwolf:
Publicado originalmente por Sarok:

Ok so you are "special" then, got it, no need to reply to you anymore.

You're not replying to him because he's got you nailed down.

What if it were a game you were looking forward to seeing on Steam? Would you still support it being yanked off the site? For that matter, what if a TV show or movie you were really looking forward to ended up not being broadcast or played at a theater near you? Would you be angry, or would you just be another drone that's happy to let someone else determine what's good for you?

Man talk about coming into a "conversation" late...

If you go back and follow it, I stopped talking to him because there is no longer any reason to talk to him. Unless you can explain to me why I should waste time repeating my self repeatedly because he refuses to acknowledge my side of this "argument" then I will still no longer reply to him as it is a waste of time and data.

Has nothing to do with him having me "nailed down"
Zenexras of Blackwick 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:46 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Ama Ki Ellikayara:
Publicado originalmente por Fenrir007:

I apologise for having moral standards instead of being an anarchistic ball of 'Hatred'.

How does being a anarchist inlcude not having morals, and killing everyone in sight?

Oops, messed this quote up... Sorry
Última edición por Zenexras of Blackwick; 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:47 p. m.
supertrooper225 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:47 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Fenrir007:
Publicado originalmente por Sarok:
Look steam has had plenty of stupidly bad games come onto their storefront with people complaining why such and such game is even for sale. Now we get a game that honestly looks like crap blocked and people flip out?

Steam can not win these days it seems.

It looks like crap? Who said that? Because the people that voted on Greenlight and pushed it to 7th place in 2 hours would disagree with you.

I definitely say it looks like crap. The only reason why it is interesting so many people is because it is a controversial game. Not because it looks unique or good. It is a crappy looking murder simulator trying to get sales by being controversial.
Última edición por supertrooper225; 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:49 p. m.
TWCroc 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:50 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por supertrooper225:
The only reason why it is interesting so many people is because it is a controversial game. Not because it looks unique or good.
Since you are trying to speak on behalf of everyone. Please provide proof of your statement.

If you cannot provide proof then your argument is naturally excluded and thrown into the trash. As all opinions that are being paraded as fact will and should be.
Crypto Carlos 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:54 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Bapho:
Publicado originalmente por supertrooper225:
The only reason why it is interesting so many people is because it is a controversial game. Not because it looks unique or good.
Since you are trying to speak on behalf of everyone. Please provide proof of your statement.

If you cannot provide proof then your argument is naturally excluded and thrown into the trash. As all opinions that are being paraded as fact will and should be.

Look at the early Mortal Kombat games - fun games sure, but if you strip out all the gore what you're left with (at least for the earlier games) are fairly basic fighting games without a lot of depth (all characters have same uppercut move/similar jump ins, there are no combos etc.) - that game sold on the FMV/gore aspect, which is why the technically inferior Genesis version of MK greatly outsold the SNES title, because Nintendo censored the gore. Which is also why they left it in for MK2. There's a portion of the mass public that just loves mindless violence, the more graphic the better, and I think gameplay is secondary for many of these people.
Última edición por Crypto Carlos; 15 DIC 2014 a las 4:54 p. m.
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