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lparkerzo Jan 19, 2015 @ 9:52am
Degraded quality in Modern video games.
I havent played a good game since Skyrim, and we all know that skyrim is an exceptional game not just because its an RPG (which are the best genre and most popular(in my opinion), but had good innovative gameplay at its core. All we have been seeing for the last 2 years is a bunch of remakes and ripoffs. I see it everywhere, not just in games but in the community, game modifications are becoming pathetic, I remember when I would go to the Skyrim/Fallout nexus to see amazing mods to hit the hot files and be excited to play them, now when I look they are pathetic and boring. This is not only to say about games but even in media in general, society has allowed us to produce lower quality products and have lowered their expectations of what makes good content and are starting to look at products that are of lower quality or are of the same content and raise them up as if they are an innovation in modern society. Remember when fallout 3 came out, bioshock, far cry 2- if you look through any steam library these games will go down in history and were games that summarized the pinnacle of Escapism and Innovation.

Lets look at some games that have recently been remade or are of the same type of gameplay.
Far cry 3/4- 4 added a new world and a few new weapons and mechanics but did not innovate in its core gameplay.
Destiny- It is a solid game yet Bungie did not go out of their way to make it what the gaming community was expecting.
Halo series- well see about halo 5 but everyone knows halo 4 was a bit unbaked.
Assasins creed- Best innovation and new gameplay mechanics goes to IV, everyone knows it. That is the kind of game that can go a long ways - INNOVATION.
Call of duty- Same thing since Call of duty 4.
Battlefield- now starting to repeat itself and come out with poor quality content. Battlefield 4 is unfinished and a frustration to play. Hardline looks dissapointing and is yet again a small change from the BF4 engine.

A game i would like to give a shout out to is Dragon Age: Inquisition, this is why they won game of the year(IGN). Because they invented a new system and a new experience.

I would like to hear opinions of others and see if there are any individuals feel the same. Are modern day games losing their quality? Are they repetitive and lacking in innovation? Will this be a consistent element we see for the future of Media/Games ( I say games because i am a gamer at heart)? Or is there still a bright future for video games? Where the innovation is palpable. Where the content and gameplay is outstanding. And where our steam library does not have a thousand decent games.... only a few, really good ones. Now, start forming your opinion! "Would you Kindly?"

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gleofrocga Jan 19, 2015 @ 10:15am 
I think there has always been games that stank of disgusting quality, but it's just that with modern IDEs and whatnot, it's easier to make disgusting games. And thanks to crowd funding, greenlight, and self publishing systems it's easier to show the world your useless rubbish.
lparkerzo Jan 19, 2015 @ 10:41am 
Absolutely correct
Unexpected Jan 19, 2015 @ 3:06pm 
most modern video games go like this 'kill russians because evil guys with red flags simulator' you are right, modern gaming has gone so far down beyond the point of repair
KANAMI Jan 19, 2015 @ 3:09pm 
This is probably because our reference point has been raised quite high.
For games to be considered outstanding they have to be continuously raising the bar,
To the point where games that might have seemed average seem terrible.

I understand that this is no excuse to make poor quality games,
But I'm offering another viewpoint on the subject matter.
chibilibi Jan 19, 2015 @ 3:27pm 
"I haven't played a good game since Skyrim."

Then look harder. There have been a lot of great games released since Skyrim.

"We all know Skyrim was an exceptional game... good innovation at its core."

Skyrim wasn't particularly innovative. It was an improvement (in many areas, at least; dungeon design, some quest designs, and dialogue options left something to be desired.) on an existing formula.

"All we have seen for the last 2 years are just remakes and ripoffs."

Video games have always been like this since the beginning. Someone hits gold with a great formula, everyone else tries to copy them. Look at how many platformers were on the NES.

" I see it everywhere, not just in games but in the community, game modifications are becoming pathetic, I remember when I would go to the Skyrim/Fallout nexus to see amazing mods to hit the hot files and be excited to play them, now when I look they are pathetic and boring."

Look harder. Maybe they aren't in the Hot Files. There's still a lot of good mods around for a lot of different games.

"Remember when fallout 3 came out, bioshock, far cry 2- if you look through any steam library these games will go down in history and were games that summarized the pinnacle of Escapism and Innovation."

Fallout 3 is like Oblivion with guns in the post apocolypse.

BioShock takes a lot from System Shock 2.

Never played Far Cry - can't comment on it.

"Far cry 3/4- 4 added a new world and a few new weapons and mechanics but did not innovate in its core gameplay."

While 4 was basically more 3 from what I've seen, do you expect a sequel to deviate a whole lot? Sequels should add and improve, I agree, but I don't think we should expect entirely different games.

"Destiny- It is a solid game yet Bungie did not go out of their way to make it what the gaming community was expecting."

That's because it was hyped to the point of being thought of as the savior of gaming. There's a cycle in the gaming industry where gamers (not usually the developers, mind you) generate an infinite amount of hype for an upcoming game and then are disappointed when the game comes out and is not the greatest game that will ever be made.

"Halo series- well see about halo 5 but everyone knows halo 4 was a bit unbaked.
Assasins creed- Best innovation and new gameplay mechanics goes to IV, everyone knows it. That is the kind of game that can go a long ways - INNOVATION."

Haven't played or really ever seen either series; can't comment. Still, innovation for innovation's sake often ends poorly - look at the Wii U. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. In the case of AC, most people with whom I have spoken have said that AC was broken, so it did need fixing.

"Call of duty- Same thing since Call of duty 4."

I've heard AW actually was pretty good in the multiplayer.

"Battlefield- now starting to repeat itself and come out with poor quality content. Battlefield 4 is unfinished and a frustration to play. Hardline looks dissapointing and is yet again a small change from the BF4 engine."

Never got into BF; can't comment.

There's already a lot of incredible games, you just have to look for them. Also, as much as GT is often hated around here, this video sums up the problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxhs-GLE29Q
Someone hasn't played Bastion then.
gleofrocga Jan 19, 2015 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by Grox3000:
All you hear at my school is Clash of Clans, Call of Duty, Clash of Clans, Call of Duty, oh, did I mention Clash of Clans?


If it aint a gritty realistic military FPS or some other violent alternative, it doesn't exist
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