Wanting to know more about gift trading/selling

[DrKain]

So I've seen a few people selling gift copies for real money through paypal or something.
I personally trade steam gifts for TF2 keys and then sell the keys.
I've seen a bunch of forums where people have stated that selling "items that can't be traded" is NOT allowed.
Steam gifts can be traded through the chat window, So does this mean I can sell games for real money?

Some games I don't want to sell for a minimum of $2.50 (1 key).
For example, If I was selling a game for $3.50, I would lose profit if I sold it for one key and I would be ripping off the buyer if I sold it for two keys ($5).

I've been restricted by the government from getting a job, so my only way to make money is through the buying, trading and selling of steam goods.
I'm an honest person, I like to sell things at a fair price, sometimes even give away a few games for free to people, but I can't lower the price or I would be losing money that I need.
I could raise the price, but that wouldn't be very fair on my buyers.
If I don't want to do anything that will breach the steams TOS.

Before you suggest that I use other items than just TF2 keys....

• Other Items have a very unstable market price, TF2 keys are fairly solid
  
• I can sell TF2 keys to humans, Buyers for other items are fairly rare.
  
• If the price of the said item was to change, there is a chance that I would be losing money from the number of trades I have done using these items.

For the people too lazy to read the above text, Summary of this topic is my asking of
Can I sell steam gifts for real money?

Thanks in advance,
Inu

[YooOwnIt]

Contact Steam Support first before taking any actions. They will respond fast and tell what you can do. Moderator's threads are for people's securities.

[Evo Nightmare]

If you do trade for real money or a game code you do it at your own risk. Valve has no control over someone offering Paypal for a game and then disputing the charges leaving you with nothing.

[DrKain]

Evo Nightmare님이 먼저 게시:

If you do trade for real money or a game code you do it at your own risk....*snip*

That's the whole point of this thread. I don't want to do anything I shouldn't be doing.

[DrKain]

cellistdaniely님이 먼저 게시:

Contact Steam Support ...*snip*

I've already contacted steam, I'm waiting for a reply.
From recent experiences with them, Their replies are not the fastest

[HLCinSC]

If it does not fit directly in the trade window (not the chat portion obviously anyone can write anything) then it is not allowed under the official trade system and you will receive NO support should something go wrong.

[DrKain]

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

If it does not fit directly in the trade window...*snip*

I'm not asking for support for things going wrong, I'm asking support to know if i can sell steam gifts for real money

[HLCinSC]

TryHardHusky님이 먼저 게시:

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

If it does not fit directly in the trade window...*snip*

I'm not asking for support for things going wrong, I'm asking support to know if i can sell steam gifts for real money

Yes you can as you have the ability to. Just be aware that you will probably get ripped off unless you trust the buyer as it is easy to issue a paypal chargeback leaving you little to no recourse.

[DrKain]

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

Yes you can as you have the ability to...*snip*.

I know I have the ability to, but I want to know if I am allowed to.
I don't need to worry about chargebacks, I have an online business set up that can handle safe paypal transactions.
I'm worried about losing my number of valuable account and thousands of items.

[HLCinSC]

TryHardHusky님이 먼저 게시:

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

Yes you can as you have the ability to...*snip*.

I know I have the ability to, but I want to know if I am allowed to.
I don't need to worry about chargebacks, I have an online business set up that can handle safe paypal transactions.
I'm worried about losing my number of valuable account and thousands of items.

Then yes there are many sites that sell 3rd party Steam keys and gifts. They may say they do not allow it but they do nothing to stop them.

[DrKain]

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

Then yes there are many sites that ...*snip*

I haven't seen a single website that sells steam gifts.
I know of sites like humblebundle or bundlestars along with ones like TF2 Shop. But those are a little different.

[HLCinSC]

TryHardHusky님이 먼저 게시:

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

Then yes there are many sites that ...*snip*

I haven't seen a single website that sells steam gifts.
I know of sites like humblebundle or bundlestars along with ones like TF2 Shop. But those are a little different.

They are mostly contained within other sites as Steam key sites are much more popular and easier to facilitate.
Here's an example: http://www.skial.com/threads/steam-games-over-400-tradable-gifts-want-paypal-or-offers.52096/

[DrKain]

HLCinSC님이 먼저 게시:

They are mostly contained...*snip*

I've plans to set up my 'store' on my website, but you've given me enough to get a basic idea of what's allowed and what's not.
Thanks a bunch :)

[Satoru]

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

You are entitled to use the Software for your own personal use, but you are not entitled to: (i) sell, grant a security interest in or transfer reproductions of the Software to other parties in any way, nor to rent, lease or license the Software to others without the prior written consent of Valve, except to the extent expressly permitted elsewhere in this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use); (ii) host or provide matchmaking services for the Software or emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Valve in any network feature of the Software, through protocol emulation, tunneling, modifying or adding components to the Software, use of a utility program or any other techniques now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose including, but not limited to network play over the Internet, network play utilizing commercial or non-commercial gaming networks or as part of content aggregation networks, websites or services, without the prior written consent of Valve; or (iii) exploit the Software or any of its parts for any commercial purpose, except as expressly permitted elsewhere in this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use).

Do anything at your own risk

[DrKain]

Satoru님이 먼저 게시:

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

blah blah snip

Do anything at your own risk

This isn't what I asked for.
Next time read the topic please.

[APerfectCircle]

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/