Another wave of false DMCA claims?
Several people reported that various workshop mods were DMCA'd in bulk. It seems like someone is trying to abuse DMCA claims again.

I'm pretty sure that it's illegal and, consequently, against the ToS.

From what I know, Rimworld and Hearts of Iron are affected, as well as Terraria and The Binding of Isaac, but feel free to report another workshops being flagged.

Edit: I saw what my meager library holds, and Stellaris, Project Zomboid, Starbound, as well as Counter Strike 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 are also affected.
Last edited by Fisherman_56; Aug 10 @ 2:47pm
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Originally posted by Fisherman_56:
Another wave of false DMCA claims?

Several people reported that various workshop mods were DMCA'd in bulk. It seems like someone is trying to abuse DMCA claims again.

I'm pretty sure that it's illegal and, consequently, against the ToS.

From what I know, Rimworld and Hearts of Iron are affected, but feel free to report another workshops being flagged.

Talk with the games developers.

:nkCool:
Well, the Workshops that at one time used to be epic, are now becoming toxic waste dumps on certain games in terms of "self promotion", and using the Workshop as a means to promote their own many times, paid mods on their own sites.

They themselves may be breaking DMCA on their own sites, and using Steam as a middle man as to self promote these matters.

Which i thought "self promotion' within itself was against Steam Rules.

So i can't speak of the game you're mentioning. But i think it was a mistake for Mr Newell and Valve to not allow "paid" mods in the Workshops.

It's defeating the purpose in that all they're doing is using the Workshop to sell their mods (which may be DMCA matters) on their own outlets, and at the same time, Developers may not have an issue with the mods they're using in lieu of improving or modding their own games.

But i would rather trust paying Steam, than paying someone on their own personal sites.

And someone who uses Mod Heavy Games only on Ge Force Now, have no other choice but to use Workshop mods on those select games.

Don't know if that goes anywhere to the matter you're bringing up OP. But it seems if DMCA is being enforced, it's futile in nature given the other venues modders have in promoting their products, and using the Workshop to sell those products even inadvertantly.
Last edited by xBCxRangers; Aug 10 @ 1:37pm
Originally posted by xBCxRangers:
It's defeating the purpose in that all they're doing is using the Workshop to sell their mods (which may be DMCA matters) on their own outlets, and at the same time, Developers may not have an issue with the mods they're using in lieu of improving or modding their own games.

I think there is some miscommunication between us. What I am saying is that several games have their workshop mods (which are not only free, but also, in many cases, are popular and/or essential prerequesites for other mods, and some which are frameworks (i. e., they expand functionality but provide no content on their own) or open-source projects that are known to have no copyright infringement) were received warning plaques saying that someone filed DMCA claims against them. It's suspicious and is most likely a work of some copyright trolls.
Impressive, very nice...Now let's see the Epstein list.
Originally posted by xBCxRangers:
Well, the Workshops that at one time used to be epic, are now becoming toxic waste dumps on certain games in terms of "self promotion", and using the Workshop as a means to promote their own many times, paid mods on their own sites.

They themselves may be breaking DMCA on their own sites, and using Steam as a middle man as to self promote these matters.

Which i thought "self promotion' within itself was against Steam Rules.

So i can't speak of the game you're mentioning. But i think it was a mistake for Mr Newell and Valve to not allow "paid" mods in the Workshops.

It's defeating the purpose in that all they're doing is using the Workshop to sell their mods (which may be DMCA matters) on their own outlets, and at the same time, Developers may not have an issue with the mods they're using in lieu of improving or modding their own games.

But i would rather trust paying Steam, than paying someone on their own personal sites.

And someone who uses Mod Heavy Games only on Ge Force Now, have no other choice but to use Workshop mods on those select games.

Don't know if that goes anywhere to the matter you're bringing up OP. But it seems if DMCA is being enforced, it's futile in nature given the other venues modders have in promoting their products, and using the Workshop to sell those products even inadvertantly.
That has nothing to do with what the OP is about.
Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:
Originally posted by xBCxRangers:
Well, the Workshops that at one time used to be epic, are now becoming toxic waste dumps on certain games in terms of "self promotion", and using the Workshop as a means to promote their own many times, paid mods on their own sites.

They themselves may be breaking DMCA on their own sites, and using Steam as a middle man as to self promote these matters.

Which i thought "self promotion' within itself was against Steam Rules.

So i can't speak of the game you're mentioning. But i think it was a mistake for Mr Newell and Valve to not allow "paid" mods in the Workshops.

It's defeating the purpose in that all they're doing is using the Workshop to sell their mods (which may be DMCA matters) on their own outlets, and at the same time, Developers may not have an issue with the mods they're using in lieu of improving or modding their own games.

But i would rather trust paying Steam, than paying someone on their own personal sites.

And someone who uses Mod Heavy Games only on Ge Force Now, have no other choice but to use Workshop mods on those select games.

Don't know if that goes anywhere to the matter you're bringing up OP. But it seems if DMCA is being enforced, it's futile in nature given the other venues modders have in promoting their products, and using the Workshop to sell those products even inadvertantly.
That has nothing to do with what the OP is about.

I understand. He's speaking about DMCA strikes in the Workshop, and whether there is an uptick.

I'm speaking to the extent, the matter futile anyway, in matters for which they are going to get the content thru other means, other than the Workshop, and in fact, using to Workshop as a means to that end.
Originally posted by Fisherman_56:
Another wave of false DMCA claims

Why is any wave of DMCA claims automatically false?
Originally posted by xBCxRangers:
Well, the Workshops that at one time used to be epic, are now becoming toxic waste dumps on certain games in terms of "self promotion", and using the Workshop as a means to promote their own many times, paid mods on their own sites.
You must not be familiar with the modding scene.

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:
They themselves may be breaking DMCA on their own sites, and using Steam as a middle man as to self promote these matters.
And as usual, any straw is fine to grasp yourself and hit Steam because potato.

Originally posted by TheStoryteller01:
Why is any wave of DMCA claims automatically false?
Wave of takedowns makes it suspicious. Funny thing is whoever may be sending those false DMCAs can get in hot water is someone with time and money decides to make it legal
Satoru Aug 10 @ 4:27pm 
Note that "Disney/Nintendo/etc didn't complain when I made X" does not mean "Disney/Nintendo/etc allowed it"
Is this because of more Nintendo content like last time?
Originally posted by xBCxRangers:
Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:
That has nothing to do with what the OP is about.

I understand. He's speaking about DMCA strikes in the Workshop, and whether there is an uptick.

I'm speaking to the extent, the matter futile anyway, in matters for which they are going to get the content thru other means, other than the Workshop, and in fact, using to Workshop as a means to that end.
You are using 90% of those words incorrectly because you still have no idea what is happening.
Chompman Aug 10 @ 5:34pm 
When in doubt download the mods directly from sites such as nexus so you can always use them if this happens too often for the mods you use.
_TheBug_ Aug 10 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by Satoru:
Note that "Disney/Nintendo/etc didn't complain when I made X" does not mean "Disney/Nintendo/etc allowed it"
yes though many of the mods getting dmca notices have no actual copy righted material
If Value does not intervene and handle it, the workshop will be nothing but void.
Just checked my workshop. Still only one DMCA takedown request, from 2018, which was valid.

If there's widespread fraudulent DMCA takedown notices, they haven't hit my games yet.

I've also made mods in at least two of the games you mentioned and none of them have ever received DMCA takedown notices.
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