Why monster game is a failure

[Aedwynn]

Where should I start? Idea? Cool idea. Realisation of that idea? Awful.
Game is quite simple and yet developers made so many errors and left so many bugs and exploits. First of all, level skip is a bad idea, game simply can't keep up with skip spamming resulting in monsters left from previous level, lags and hangs. New players getting in team with skippers simply can't understand what's going on, do not get enough rewards and instakilled all the time. No fun here at all, you should have made an option to join standard game, or skipper fest. Second, you did not test it well with 1000 players. Lags, items being used with a 5-10 sec delay, dropped items never appearing in inventory, game stuttering and skipping stuff. And crashes, a lot of crashes. Game won't start with unknown error. Whole shop page hanging, not reacting to anything. Corrupted achievments log.
With a ssimple game like this to make all such errors - that's worst game of the year nominee for sure. Guys, I just can't understand. How you managed to break it so much? Sorry, but experience wasn't pleasant at all.

[Dellicious]

Yeah they use a script that auto plays and uses Like New/Wormwoles at the right time to jump massive levels. My game jumped 4 million levels in 1 jump because of it, 2 days ago.

[Flustig]

Dellicious の投稿を引用：

Yeah they use a script that auto plays and uses Like New/Wormwoles at the right time to jump massive levels. My game jumped 4 million levels in 1 jump because of it, 2 days ago.

there are also trolls that ruined my last chance to get 100 M

[Dellicious]

I'm currently in a game that is on 20M, not sure if it will get 100M although I am helping them with worm holes.

If you're in a terrible game today you could try joining us but it's full atm. JoinGame(49470);

[Floppy Chicken]

Dellicious の投稿を引用：

I'm currently in a game that is on 20M, not sure if it will get 100M although I am helping them with worm holes.

If you're in a terrible game today you could try joining us but it's full atm. JoinGame(49470);

I'm in 49659, and we're almost at 90M. I'll switch when it's done.

[Dellicious]

Nice one, at least we can help them get 50Mil or something.

I got the badge 2 days ago so I am just helping other rooms now.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

The main problems with the game were: -

1) It frequently was inaccessible.
2) Sometimes it took an age to load
3) It encouraged RSI quantities of mouse clicking
4) You wonder about game balance when some groups made 9,000 levels, some groups 25,000 and some groups 100 million. There are only 86,400 seconds in 24 hours so the people that did that exceeded 1,157 levels a second.
5) If you weren't using the super powered software it could get pretty dull particularly at higher levels where you died repeatedly close to instantly.

Played honestly it might have had some lowest common denominator attraction but the bugs were pretty annoying.

S.x.

P.s. Still I now have Steam emoticons

[Dellicious]

There are no balancing issues, it's just guys on reddit got together and all joined the same game at the same time, thus increasing their chances by having far fewer idle/worthless players holding the team back.

[Charlie]

I like the game enough to have gotten the 100M badge

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CA IMI SUGI PIUL:A

[Aedwynn]

knives の投稿を引用：

@Op
Ahh, you should have joined a group.

I've had a great time with this game in a really solid community that coordinated, planned, executed and achieved level 100 million. And it was awesome.

I'm still a bit overwhelmed at how we managed to get such a (large) group working in a team like that, but we did. As did others.We got the rare achieve and will always have the awesome / fun memories of how we all did it together as a team.

That's really how the game was designed, as a team experience. Sound like you've done it as a single player game, joining some room at random and then fighting with your own playstyle vs everyone else..

I guess you just didn't go beyond that level of (single)play. Sorry dude.. :sad_creep:

If you wish to see it, this is what the endgame looks like.

:blissful_creep::nonplussed_creep::happy_creep:

You are wrong on many things.
Joining group wont make bugs go away, as well as won't fix main issue - game aiming for 100Mil ain't same game of leisurly clicking enemies off and you can't control all of 1000 players making a few ruin game for others.
You are claiming that your team effort brought you 100Mil? Sorry to disappoint you but autoclicker/autoskipper did that job, not your great teamwork. It has been proven long ago, that man can not keep up with more than 3-6 separate processeses he must overlook, averaging at 3,5. That's why military commanders have 3-4 squads to overlook by design. That's why WoW's 40 man raids were way too complex (8 teams) and they stuck to 25 (5 teams). While this game is simple, coordinating 1000 players is still hard. Way easier to get a coordinated dozen with right software tools. That's how people reach 100M, not a 1000 acting as one.
So it is not about singleplayer style, it is about flaws in design as well as bad development.
Community/room do not matter if game does not start or hangs entire steam page. A lot of dissatisfied people point out too that it could have been done better and more interesting.

[Aedwynn]

Yes I know there are channels and groups that allow you to really weed out randoms and focus ond gold helm wormhole spamming strategy. But here's some math: IF you got all 1000 players working 'as one', you need around 10Mil wormholes or 10k wormholes per player. While you can dish out a lot of clicks per minute, in the long run average goes way lower. Even if we stick to 1/s it is 10k seconds or ~ 3 hours of straight concentration of wormhole spamming only, add here time in between levels you are looking at 4-5 hours of intense play IF all 1000 players are dedicated. If less, it can prolong even further. That is, if everyone uses fair clicking. But, add a couple of autoclicker guys and they can rack guaranteed Kilos of wormholes on a boss. Looking at that I deliberately chose not to go for 100M - for me it is a wasted effort.

[Dmitry]

Oh my, what a drama was today, my mood changed several times from depression to arousal. Nukers, warmholers, crashes, witchhunting, hope lost and found. Like in a bad Hollywood movie. Game is crap, but I am pleased.

[Dellicious]

Nobody can have a go at people for using autoclick and cheating, Valve designed a badge for 100 Million, therefore they are rewarding the "cheaters" for breaking the system. But calling them cheaters is wrong since it was a smart coordinated effort on reddit with some great coders designing the scripting programs, ones that auto-buy and use the correct abilities, Valve were impressed.

[Dmitry]

Dellicious の投稿を引用：

Nobody can have a go at people for using autoclick and cheating, Valve designed a badge for 100 Million, therefore they are rewarding the "cheaters" for breaking the system. But calling them cheaters is wrong since it was a smart coordinated effort on reddit with some great coders designing the scripting programs, ones that auto-buy and use the correct abilities, Valve were impressed.

Right now these scripters wasted a chance of room 49531 to get the 100m badge - they began to improvise, changing the strategy right in action. And how do you know what Valve thinks? I if remember correctly they made 100m badge several days ago, seeing where it is all coming. I think Valve planned badly and was not ready to anything that will happen and they improvised, just like scripters (and trolls). Valve just could not undo their own deeds, because it means to call yourself a fail. Comes out, all went interesting, because it is always interesting when big masses of people communicate and do something together. Social laws work.

[Akira Sweets | Dog Mom]

knives の投稿を引用：

@Op
Ahh, you should have joined a group.

I've had a great time with this game in a really solid community that coordinated, planned, executed and achieved level 100 million. And it was awesome.

I'm still a bit overwhelmed at how we managed to get such a (large) group working in a team like that, but we did. As did others.We got the rare achieve and will always have the awesome / fun memories of how we all did it together as a team.

That's really how the game was designed, as a team experience. Sound like you've done it as a single player game, joining some room at random and then fighting with your own playstyle vs everyone else..

I guess you just didn't go beyond that level of (single)play. Sorry dude..

If you wish to see it, this is what the endgame looks like.

:blissful_creep::nonplussed_creep:

Fake? Because apparently the comment section is turned off for the video... XD