Jak and Daxter

[MiniMonster05]

So, I know that everyone everywhere has said at some point that Naughty Dog won't be remastering Jak and that it's highly unlikely to see the series hit steam. But a group of fans just created an unofficial port online, do you think that is a push in the right direction to get the games on here or is it just lawsuit central?

[my new friend]

Originally posted by MiniMonster05:

So, I know that everyone everywhere has said at some point that Naughty Dog won't be remastering Jak and that it's highly unlikely to see the series hit steam. But a group of fans just created an unofficial port online, do you think that is a push in the right direction to get the games on here or is it just lawsuit central?

It can swing either way but it would probably go badly for the people who created the port no matter what.

[Cathulhu]

Such fangames are just one C&D letter away from being blasted into oblivion.

And to protect their IP the rights holder even MUST act on such infringements. Even if they liked then and would like to tolerate them. Otherwise they'd put themselves into a position where anyone could use their IP without any repercussions. Due to the rightsholder creating a precedent.

Which is why Nintendo is so aggressive regarding fangames. They even tried to prevent the use of romhacks at speedrunning charity events.

[my new friend]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Which is why Nintendo is so aggressive regarding fangames. They even tried to prevent the use of romhacks at speedrunning charity events.

Which kinda sucks for the speedrunning community but also for CryZENx who has been porting Ocarina of Time to the Unreal Engine and it looks pretty damn neat.

[Cathulhu]

Well, the romhacks persisted and are still used at those events, so that is one thing where Nintendo didn't prevail.

But, just remember the fate of games like AM2R (Another Metroid 2 Remake) or multiple Pokemon games. Nintendo took them down sometimes hours within their release.

[my new friend]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Well, the romhacks persisted and are still used at those events, so that is one thing where Nintendo didn't prevail.

But, just remember the fate of games like AM2R (Another Metroid 2 Remake) or multiple Pokemon games. Nintendo took them down sometimes hours within their release.

Plenty of groups of Twitch streamers doing runs all the time. One place they haven't really touched.
There's even the Link to the Past Randomizer tournament going on right now.

[MiniMonster05]

Originally posted by my new friend:

Originally posted by MiniMonster05:

So, I know that everyone everywhere has said at some point that Naughty Dog won't be remastering Jak and that it's highly unlikely to see the series hit steam. But a group of fans just created an unofficial port online, do you think that is a push in the right direction to get the games on here or is it just lawsuit central?

It can swing either way but it would probably go badly for the people who created the port no matter what.

That's such a bummer, I was really excited when I heard about it over my morning coffee. Especially since I can't afford a playstation.

[MiniMonster05]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Such fangames are just one C&D letter away from being blasted into oblivion.

And to protect their IP the rights holder even MUST act on such infringements. Even if they liked then and would like to tolerate them. Otherwise they'd put themselves into a position where anyone could use their IP without any repercussions. Due to the rightsholder creating a precedent.

Which is why Nintendo is so aggressive regarding fangames. They even tried to prevent the use of romhacks at speedrunning charity events.

Man, I didn't think of this at all. But I suppose that makes sense. Though out of curiosity, what are romhacks? I'm fairly new at gaming.

[nullable]

Once upon a time cartridge games were stored on ROMs, read only memory. So the games themselves are referred to as ROMs, especially in the context of using an emulator.

A rom-hack would be a modified-from-the-original version of the game. Not unlike how modding is done on PC games. It's just older consoles had no options on any level for mods. And the lingo for things evolved differently, and they're not identical so you can split hairs over how they're different or the same, depending.

[eastlondondon]

Originally posted by my new friend:

It can swing either way but it would probably go badly for the people who created the port no matter what.

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Such fangames are just one C&D letter away from being blasted into oblivion.

It is not a fan game it is a decompilation and it is not complete yet, but there is nothing illegal about it, it has been reverse engineered and rebuilt using new code so it doesn't violate any copyright laws because it doesn't use any of Naughty Dog's code.

The decompilation of Super Mario 64 has been on github for over two years now and Nintendo can not take it down because it is not using any of their code.

You need to build it yourself using a ROM of the game or an ISO in the case of Jak and Daxter.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by MiniMonster05:

So, I know that everyone everywhere has said at some point that Naughty Dog won't be remastering Jak and that it's highly unlikely to see the series hit steam. But a group of fans just created an unofficial port online, do you think that is a push in the right direction to get the games on here or is it just lawsuit central?

They would not be able to put that on Steam and while some dev/pubs will turn a blind eye initially, some(Nintendo) will send the legal equivalent of Seal Team 6 after you.

[MiniMonster05]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Once upon a time cartridge games were stored on ROMs, read only memory. So the games themselves are referred to as ROMs, especially in the context of using an emulator.

A rom-hack would be a modified-from-the-original version of the game. Not unlike how modding is done on PC games. It's just older consoles had no options on any level for mods. And the lingo for things evolved differently, and they're not identical so you can split hairs over how they're different or the same, depending.

That is actually really informative, thank you!