Obvious cheaters

[Proximo]

I see a lot of pathetic little kids "flexing" with their cheated achievements (with SAM) or just cheats (mostly WeMod/Cheat Engine). Literally posting screenshots and putting them on public on their profile some even SPEAK OPENLY that they use this kind of cheating tools and nothing is made about it. Tell me where are steam mods? I know I can simply report this but even if I did it with fair proof they do nothing about cheater. Reporting account is useless and getting ban this days is hard or unfair.

[Chompman]

Steam does not care about things like SAM and 99.9% of the games don't either.

As for individual game cheats you either report them to the place the game has to file any such reports on their end or nowhere as any game that uses a anti-cheat is usually automated more so then anything and reports by individuals are usually not verified enough to do anything about.

[Proximo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chompman:

Steam does not care about things like SAM and 99.9% of the games don't either.

They should cause these are global achievements and if someone just gets 300 achievements with 5mins of gameplay its unfair to people who play for hundreds of hours to get them, I never understood why they dont care about it at all.

[Chompman]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chompman:

Steam does not care about things like SAM and 99.9% of the games don't either.

They should cause these are global achievements and if someone just gets 300 achievements with 5mins of gameplay its unfair to people who play for hundreds of hours to get them, I never understood why they dont care about it at all.

Because achievements mean nothing to steam and they will not police such things.

Achievements have always been used for personal use and not something officially regulated by almost any game dev either except a very few.

[Proximo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chompman:

Because achievements mean nothing to steam and they will not police such things.

Achievements have always been used for personal use and not something officially regulated by almost any game dev either except a very few.

Still someone announcing out loud that hes using cheats is crazy for me and should be punished, thats literally spitting in the face of fair players and steam itself lmao.

[Tito Shivan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

They should cause these are global achievements and if someone just gets 300 achievements with 5mins of gameplay its unfair to people who play for hundreds of hours to get them, I never understood why they dont care about it at all.

Because people turn everything into a bloody competition. Because people peek at other people's achievements to close their mouths because 'they're a noob'. Lots of reasons why people cheat achievements

Someone's 300 cheated achievements won't make your legit ones less worthy.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

Still someone announcing out loud that hes using cheats is crazy for me and should be punished, thats literally spitting in the face of fair players and steam itself lmao.

That's what anticheat programs are for. And not everyone who says uses cheats actually do. It's a trolling tactic as old as time to say you're using cheats to trigger a newbie.

[AustrAlien2010]

Punish?? Who do you think I am? The devil?
"Men aren't punished for their sins, but by them."

It's a bonus feature I suppose. Regardless, we all play fair. So you should not be discouraged because of it.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chompman:

Because achievements mean nothing to steam and they will not police such things.

Achievements have always been used for personal use and not something officially regulated by almost any game dev either except a very few.

Still someone announcing out loud that hes using cheats is crazy for me and should be punished, thats literally spitting in the face of fair players and steam itself lmao.

as i have said in another thread

i used sam because there was no way to turn the damn things off

we can now, so not that big of a deal to me

i also cheat in many single player games

if either of those seem like a spit in your face, that is on you

i also do not go "flexing" about it, though

i would not be adverse to some kind of mark that shows sam was used

seeing as how they cannot tell it was, i am not sure how that would work

maybe steam can come out and say it is fine to use then sam devs can make it visible

not sure

[GEB.Rosé]

it should not matter whether *someone* spent 5 minutes, or 5 years for whatever steam achievements they have. the only thing that should matter to *you* is what achievements and how *you* got them.
*You* got a hard achievement, *You* did it legitimately, *You* should feel proud of yourself. end of story.

Achievement percentage and how many people got that achievement shouldnt matter either.

[miakisfan]

This only matters if you allow their achievement list to rent space in your head. That would lead me to wonder what else you do during the day if this is such a big issue.

Note: the only games that cheating actually affects other players are games where you play with or against said cheaters. If you are mad someone used the Steam Achievement Manager on a single player game then I might suggest a visit to your friendly neighborhood therapist who will hopefully tell you there are far more important things going on in your life that are far more important then this.

Good luck to you getting past this seeing as cheating has been happening for centuries anyways.

[Proximo]

I did not mention that I met cheaters in games like tf2,WoT,Warthunder,hunter cotw. All these are multiplayer games and as I said above reports do absolutely nothing and devs of game also do nothing. For me both devs and steam failed to prevent cheating in these specific games.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von miakisfan:

If you are mad someone used the Steam Achievement Manager on a single player game then I might suggest a visit to your friendly neighborhood therapist who will hopefully tell you there are far more important things going on in your life that are far more important then this.

Good luck to you getting past this seeing as cheating has been happening for centuries anyways.

Its not only issue with steam these days- Scammers flood, there is A WAVE of scammers all doing same scam and nothing is done to them after delivering proof to steam support or after reporting. Before you advise someone to see a therapist, use what's left of your brain and assess whether I really appreciate the seriousness of the problem, for me it's not a deadly serious problem, just a minor misunderstanding that needs fixing, just like small bugs in game that need to be fixed.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

I did not mention that I met cheaters in games like tf2,WoT,Warthunder,hunter cotw. All these are multiplayer games and as I said above reports do absolutely nothing and devs of game also do nothing. For me both devs and steam failed to prevent cheating in these specific games.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von miakisfan:

If you are mad someone used the Steam Achievement Manager on a single player game then I might suggest a visit to your friendly neighborhood therapist who will hopefully tell you there are far more important things going on in your life that are far more important then this.

Good luck to you getting past this seeing as cheating has been happening for centuries anyways.

Its not only issue with steam these days- Scammers flood, there is A WAVE of scammers all doing same scam and nothing is done to them after delivering proof to steam support or after reporting. Before you advise someone to see a therapist, use what's left of your brain and assess whether I really appreciate the seriousness of the problem, for me it's not a deadly serious problem, just a minor misunderstanding that needs fixing, just like small bugs in game that need to be fixed.

cheating has existed since people have

what is it that you think steam can do to stop it?

beyond what they do, mind you, and that will not be so draconian no one would play?

it is the balance they have been having to work with since online gaming

report the ones you think are cheating

it could be they are not and you were mistaken

if they are openly saying they are, make sure to point it out

and above all, be polite when doing all of this

as for sam

don't worry about how others got theirs

just revel in your accomplishment

[Tito Shivan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

I did not mention that I met cheaters in games like tf2,WoT,Warthunder,hunter cotw. All these are multiplayer games and as I said above reports do absolutely nothing and devs of game also do nothing.

Reports will never trigger a ban. In the case of VAC it'll trigger more agressive scanning, but cheaters will only get banned on cheat detection. And that's the tricky part and the portion where cheat makers put most of their effort.

Otherwise people would simply weaponize reports. Like for example reporting you en-masse until you get a ban because you were mass reported.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

For me both devs and steam failed to prevent cheating in these specific games.

There's a pretty watertight method to get rid of all cheaters. I don't think you'll like it though.

[Roastgoose]

This cheating? https://t.me/hamster_kombAt_bot/start?startapp=kentId747227291

[Mabi]

For multiplayer gaming there are a lot of RPG titles in paper format.

Steam is good for single game experiences, especially horror, or for titles with a maximum of 4/8 participants among friends in barotrauma style, the future commandos perhaps.

You don't need too powerful hardware to run the best titles. Maybe the next GTA will be realistic, but not necessarily one of the best titles.

[дис]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Proximo:

I see a lot of pathetic little kids "flexing" with their cheated achievements (with SAM) or just cheats (mostly WeMod/Cheat Engine). Literally posting screenshots and putting them on public on their profile some even SPEAK OPENLY that they use this kind of cheating tools and nothing is made about it. Tell me where are steam mods? I know I can simply report this but even if I did it with fair proof they do nothing about cheater. Reporting account is useless and getting ban this days is hard or unfair.

S.A.M is not cheating. This is just a tool that uses the Steam API. Helps when there is no online in a particular game.