STEAM VS EUROPEAN COMISSION

[Bartølevsky]

Wszystkich oszukanych i okradzionych przez steam. Zachęcam do zgłaszania ich do Urzędu ochrony danych osobowych, urzędu ochrony konkurencjibi konsumentów oraz federal Trade comission. Steam poraz kolejny dostanie milionowe kary od komisji Europejskiej.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by Bartølevsky (TRANSLATED):

Everyone who has been cheated and robbed by steam. I encourage you to report them to the Office for Personal Data Protection, the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection and the Federal Trade Commission. Steam will once again receive millions in fines from the European Commission.

Users are solely responsible for the security of their account. Failure to maintain proper security, such as using their Steam Login on a 3rd party site may result in a compromised account, thus lost inventory & steam wallet balance. There are warnings when clicking on links that take you out of their site. There are anti-scam FAQs.

You made a similar thread a year ago, safe to say any agency sided with Valve as to users being responsible for their accounts login being freely given away to untrustworthy places. Never use your Steam Login outside of Steam.

Previous thread, almost 1 entire year ago:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3830914892596228746/

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Bartølevsky:

STEAM VS EUROPEAN COMISSION

Wszystkich oszukanych i okradzionych przez steam. Zachęcam do zgłaszania ich do Urzędu ochrony danych osobowych, urzędu ochrony konkurencjibi konsumentów oraz federal Trade comission. Steam poraz kolejny dostanie milionowe kary od komisji Europejskiej.

Having your account get compromised is not Valve fault.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3830914892596228746/

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Bartølevsky:

STEAM VS EUROPEAN COMISSION

Wszystkich oszukanych i okradzionych przez steam. Zachęcam do zgłaszania ich do Urzędu ochrony danych osobowych, urzędu ochrony konkurencjibi konsumentów oraz federal Trade comission. Steam poraz kolejny dostanie milionowe kary od komisji Europejskiej.

Having your account get compromised is not Valve fault.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3830914892596228746/

:winterbunny2023:

While that is true, not reporting a crime is.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Having your account get compromised is not Valve fault.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3830914892596228746/

While that is true, not reporting a crime is.

Who says that they don't?

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

While that is true, not reporting a crime is.

Who says that they don't?

:winterbunny2023:

Well, I doubt that they would, because Valve never loses anything. Scammers tend to sell stolen items.

[HikariLight]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Who says that they don't?

:winterbunny2023:

Well, I doubt that they would, because Valve never loses anything. Scammers tend to sell stolen items.

Items stolen from users who can't use basic Internet safety.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, I doubt that they would, because Valve never loses anything. Scammers tend to sell stolen items.

Items stolen from users who can't use basic Internet safety.

Well, that is irrelevant. If you invite someone to sleep at your house and they steal something, that's still theft.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, I doubt that they would, because Valve never loses anything. Scammers tend to sell stolen items.

Items stolen from users who can't use basic Internet safety.

Nort to mention the "Theft" cannot be proven.
As far as Valve and their systems can see. It is a perfectly normal transaction between two users.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Items stolen from users who can't use basic Internet safety.

Nort to mention the "Theft" cannot be proven.
As far as Valve and their systems can see. It is a perfectly normal transaction between two users.

Well, so you believe they can't see what IP's are accessing an account?

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Items stolen from users who can't use basic Internet safety.

Well, that is irrelevant. If you invite someone to sleep at your house and they steal something, that's still theft.

You know who they are so you can give the police a description etc. On Steam a scammer never uses their own account.

Do you want Valve to go after the innocent party? The user who is not aware their account is compromised or never bothered to revover it.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, so you believe they can't see what IP's are accessing an account?

VPN.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, that is irrelevant. If you invite someone to sleep at your house and they steal something, that's still theft.

You know who they are so you can give the police a description etc. On Steam a scammer never uses their own account.

You want Valve to go after the innocent party, the user who is not aware their account is compromised or never bothered to revover it.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, so you believe they can't see what IP's are accessing an account?

VPN.

Well, I must say that's quite intriguing. If a scammer NEVER uses their own account, then how do they hijack your account to impersonate you to begin with? Don't you realize that you forgot one piece of the puzzle here?

VPN? Only naive people believe that they are protected by it. Pedos get caught all the time while using it.

[Unicorn Slayer]

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

You know who they are so you can give the police a description etc. On Steam a scammer never uses their own account.

You want Valve to go after the innocent party, the user who is not aware their account is compromised or never bothered to revover it.



VPN.

Well, I must say that's quite intriguing. If a scammer NEVER uses their own account, then how do they hijack your account to impersonate you to begin with? Don't you realize that you forgot one piece of the puzzle here?

Phishing. Doesn't require a steam account for that. Not to mention the scammers that operate on websites and do these type of scams live in countries where they don't cooperate with investigations.

So you can report them all you want, but the police aren't going to investigate a random person's skins being stolen. Its not valve's responsibility if someone ignores all the security they have and gives away access to their account.

[76561197960287930]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Items stolen from users who can't use basic Internet safety.

Nort to mention the "Theft" cannot be proven.
As far as Valve and their systems can see. It is a perfectly normal transaction between two users.

Wow, Imagine my bank telling me that stolen cards or credentials, transfers or and un authorized purchases, is just a normal transactions, and nothing they can do, nothing can be proven.

Justifications for identity theft, illegal account use, theft, cyber crime, because as the victim it's probably your fault.

Account security is our responsibility. And meanwhile Valve isn't doing their customers any favors by, leaving so many illegal cyber criminals to post scam Steam Card phishing url in their own Steam group user chat rooms, none of which are being closed for being in violation of their own rules and guidelines.

I can list well over a dozen chat rooms right now with countless scammers posting their url scams. Thanks for being complicit Valve! /s

And anyone else in the USA can report bad business practices, and cyber crimes to the FTC Federal Trade Commission Report Fraud or to IC3 . gov Internet Crime Complaint Center it don't matter if it's your FAULT!

[ƒ(Will)]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, that is irrelevant. If you invite someone to sleep at your house and they steal something, that's still theft.

You know who they are so you can give the police a description etc. On Steam a scammer never uses their own account.

Do you want Valve to go after the innocent party? The user who is not aware their account is compromised or never bothered to revover it.

Originally posted by Pierce Dalton:

Well, so you believe they can't see what IP's are accessing an account?

VPN.

VPN are not safe from police investigation. Nor Intelligence services.

What is this urban legend?

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by Will:

VPN are not safe from police investigation. Nor Intelligence services.

What is this urban legend?

I remember years ago a video came out showing VPN companies tend to track everything their customers do when using it. Little different from using their own ISP as both are tied to a payment method with the billing address & customer name.