Who Lost money due to Steam Market ?

[malakadil]

Please i want to know ? how many people lost thr money from thr steam wallet due to steam market without buying anything and cant get thr refunds ? just want know if its just me ?

[malakadil]

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

HOW TO SECURE MY ACCOUNT ? IF STEAM GUARD IS USELESS CHANGING PASSWORD IS USELESS AND ROBED FOR 2 TIMES?

Don't enter your Steam credentials on any site besides Steam.

Do not share your passwords with anyone, not even friends and family.

Treat you login credentials the same way the NSA treats it's intel: Top Secret.

It's that simple.

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you think i dont know that ? where else will i enter my steam account beside steam with so called steam guard which is useless through steam market?

[PaulKrawitz]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Don't enter your Steam credentials on any site besides Steam.

Do not share your passwords with anyone, not even friends and family.

Treat you login credentials the same way the NSA treats it's intel: Top Secret.

It's that simple.

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you think i dont know that ? where else will i enter my steam account beside steam with so called steam guard which is useless through steam market?

You cannot compromise your Steam account without having clicked/tapped on suspicious links, by sharing credentials, or by inadequate system security.

Your system, be it PC or phone, must've been compromised and with it your account(s).

The Market has nothing to do with it.

I made 3.543 market transactions so far, none of them compromised my account.

[malakadil]

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

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you think i dont know that ? where else will i enter my steam account beside steam with so called steam guard which is useless through steam market?

You cannot compromise your Steam account without having clicked/tapped on suspicious links, by sharing credentials, or by inadequate system security.

Your system, be it PC or phone, must've been compromised and with it your account(s).

The Market has nothing to do with it.

I made 3.543 market transactions so far, none of them compromised my account.

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how to you use steam market ? with your steam wallet ? my point is why the am i forced to use steam market which use my steam wallet and with no refund policy . if you make a mistake in steam market your money is gone which give confidence to hackers to attack steam cuz steam market is vulnerability they love to exploit .

every month i put 5$ so when i like a game i will buy it but to know that hackers can exploit your steam wallet through steam market which i dont use .

i know i know stop telling not to click on suspicious links etc etc etc . if i click something by mistake i am a human i can make mistake hackers can use my steam market and on top of that steam guard and all the security is useless without getting a notification for a transaction . if they can bypass steam guard , email protection your phone protection and take your money through steam market . whats the point of steam market ?

[malakadil]

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

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you think i dont know that ? where else will i enter my steam account beside steam with so called steam guard which is useless through steam market?

You cannot compromise your Steam account without having clicked/tapped on suspicious links, by sharing credentials, or by inadequate system security.

Your system, be it PC or phone, must've been compromised and with it your account(s).

The Market has nothing to do with it.

I made 3.543 market transactions so far, none of them compromised my account.

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my phone had no service due to election , no phone have phone service in my country and yet hackers use my phone number? really . i just got notification on my email that i bought something on steam market. steam guard , email , phone number are useless if steam itself have steam market with no refund policy . it just give confidence to hackers .

[PaulKrawitz]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

how to you use steam market ? with your steam wallet ?

No, I did not use my wallet; I used my bank account, like any other person with any shred of common sense would do.

Never keep money in your wallet.

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

my point is why the am i forced to use steam market which use my steam wallet and with no refund policy . if you make a mistake in steam market your money is gone which give confidence to hackers to attack steam cuz steam market is vulnerability they love to exploit .

Your point is moot, before you click/tap on anything you should stop to read what you're clicking/tapping on.

There is no such thing as a market vulnerability if you know what you're doing.

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

every month i put 5$ so when i like a game i will buy it but to know that hackers can exploit your steam wallet through steam market which i dont use .

Again, do not store money in your wallet, regardless of what amount it may be.

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

i know i know stop telling not to click on suspicious links etc etc etc . if i click something by mistake i am a human i can make mistake hackers can use my steam market and on top of that steam guard and all the security is useless without getting a notification for a transaction . if they can bypass steam guard , email protection your phone protection and take your money through steam market . whats the point of steam market ?

There's a difference between a mistake and an error; every person can make errors, but few make mistakes.

You have made an error and you allowed that error to turn into a mistake, that is entirely your fault.

Hackers cannot gain access to your account without first gaining access to your system(s).

If Steam would've been hacked, all our accounts would be compromised; that did not happen which means Steam is secure.

Once again, the fact that you lost money is on you, no one else is to blame for that.

[PaulKrawitz]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

You cannot compromise your Steam account without having clicked/tapped on suspicious links, by sharing credentials, or by inadequate system security.

Your system, be it PC or phone, must've been compromised and with it your account(s).

The Market has nothing to do with it.

I made 3.543 market transactions so far, none of them compromised my account.

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my phone had no service due to election , no phone have phone service in my country and yet hackers use my phone number? really . i just got notification on my email that i bought something on steam market. steam guard , email , phone number are useless if steam itself have steam market with no refund policy . it just give confidence to hackers .

That is exactly my point, you are compromised.

Secure your account or face the consequences.

[malakadil]

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

how to you use steam market ? with your steam wallet ?

No, I did not use my wallet; I used my bank account, like any other person with any shred of common sense would do.

Never keep money in your wallet.

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

my point is why the am i forced to use steam market which use my steam wallet and with no refund policy . if you make a mistake in steam market your money is gone which give confidence to hackers to attack steam cuz steam market is vulnerability they love to exploit .

Your point is moot, before you click/tap on anything you should stop to read what you're clicking/tapping on.

There is no such thing as a market vulnerability if you know what you're doing.

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

every month i put 5$ so when i like a game i will buy it but to know that hackers can exploit your steam wallet through steam market which i dont use .

Again, do not store money in your wallet, regardless of what amount it may be.

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

i know i know stop telling not to click on suspicious links etc etc etc . if i click something by mistake i am a human i can make mistake hackers can use my steam market and on top of that steam guard and all the security is useless without getting a notification for a transaction . if they can bypass steam guard , email protection your phone protection and take your money through steam market . whats the point of steam market ?

There's a difference between a mistake and an error; every person can make errors, but few make mistakes.

You have made an error and you allowed that error to turn into a mistake, that is entirely your fault.

Hackers cannot gain access to your account without first gaining access to your system(s).

If Steam would've been hacked, all our accounts would be compromised; that did not happen which means Steam is secure.

Once again, the fact that you lost money is on you, no one else is to blame for that.

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Mistake = an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong.
Errror = a mistake.

whats the difference?

vulnerability in a system is a mistake . steam market is a vulnerability in steam gaming service and users should be given a choice to use it or not .

[PaulKrawitz]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

No, I did not use my wallet; I used my bank account, like any other person with any shred of common sense would do.

Never keep money in your wallet.




Your point is moot, before you click/tap on anything you should stop to read what you're clicking/tapping on.

There is no such thing as a market vulnerability if you know what you're doing.



Again, do not store money in your wallet, regardless of what amount it may be.



There's a difference between a mistake and an error; every person can make errors, but few make mistakes.

You have made an error and you allowed that error to turn into a mistake, that is entirely your fault.

Hackers cannot gain access to your account without first gaining access to your system(s).

If Steam would've been hacked, all our accounts would be compromised; that did not happen which means Steam is secure.

Once again, the fact that you lost money is on you, no one else is to blame for that.

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Mistake = an act or judgement that is misguided or wrong.
Errror = a mistake.

whats the difference?

vulnerability in a system is a mistake . steam market is a vulnerability in steam gaming service and users should be given a choice to use it or not .

The difference is that an error is the first step towards a mistake.

Every error that remains uncorrected will eventually turn into a mistake.

An error can still be corrected, a mistake can rarely be corrected.

That's the difference.

[malakadil]

We are humans we can make mistake but if possibility or vulnerability exist in a system, is it 100% our mistake , error or whatever .

[Zarineth]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

We are humans we can make mistake but if possibility or vulnerability exist in a system, is it 100% our mistake , error or whatever .

The only vulnerability is user.

[malakadil]

Yah sure .

[Crazy Tiger]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

We are humans we can make mistake but if possibility or vulnerability exist in a system, is it 100% our mistake , error or whatever .

Getting phished or having malware is not a vulnerability in the Steam system. It's a vulnerability on the user end, so yeah, that is a mistake 100% on the user.

[PaulKrawitz]

Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

We are humans we can make mistake but if possibility or vulnerability exist in a system, is it 100% our mistake , error or whatever .

Getting phished or having malware is not a vulnerability in the Steam system. It's a vulnerability on the user end, so yeah, that is a mistake 100% on the user.

Agreed.

Always prioritize your security and your systems security.

Or face the consequences.

[malakadil]

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Getting phished or having malware is not a vulnerability in the Steam system. It's a vulnerability on the user end, so yeah, that is a mistake 100% on the user.

Agreed.

Always prioritize your security and your systems security.

Or face the consequences.

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why type of logic is that ?

[J4MESOX4D]

Escrito originalmente por malakadil:

Escrito originalmente por PaulKrawitz:

Agreed.

Always prioritize your security and your systems security.

Or face the consequences.

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why type of logic is that ?

It's called common sense.