Steam Mobile Authenticator Is Really Triggering Me

[Newporg]

So, I have a real hate boner against cell phones, haven't owned one in 10 years... I have a lot of reasons why I don't have/want or need one, I wont bother getting into personal morality and ♥♥♥♥, long story short.. I just don't like them. So of course what happens, steam forces a mobile authenticator on every ones accounts... that just so happens to be an App, you can easily download for free, on a cellphone.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kill me. I mean, sure the majority of people have cell phones.. but A) I don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ want one, and B) I already pay for a landline.. I don't need a cellphone.

... So i did some google hacking about what I could do.. I seen somewhere about getting a digital phone number, Easy enough, get number.. link to email.. give steam said number.. steam texts the code to the number, i get an email.. every things tits. I started looking around, Seen Google Voice.. had to make a Gmail account because my hotmail wouldn't work with it, wasted 30 minuets trying to come up with a Gmail account name, yes.. 30 minuets.. I'm 27, when I give my Email out to colleagues I don't want it to be [e-mail]. So fine, I created a Gmail account.. started looking around and then I discovered that because I'm Canadian I can't get the full version that includes the telephone number (The thing i need). So, I looked for similar ♥♥♥♥ to Google Voice, didn't get me anywhere.. they all didn't work.. cos ♥♥♥♥ me in the ass I'm Canadian. So the next step for me would be to get a full digital phone (10$ a month) with a dumb box that connects my phone to the interwebz that costs (10$ a month) to rent, or 80$ to buy... all just because of STEAMS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Yes, my steam account is valuable to me. Yes, I do trades.. CSGO and what not. No, I wouldn't wanna lose it to some theif. But this Mobile authenticator is really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ triggering me and as far as I'm concerned can 360 no scope mouth first in to a flaming pile of AID's infested ♥♥♥♥♥.

--Also, my experience with RedGuard in the past wasn't a pleasant one. I actually lost my first steam account to Red Guard.. it didn't email me the code, I tried for almost a month to contact STEAM and get it sorted out.. I got no response and no help. I ended up having to make a new account. I can get into that account now for some reason.. 3 years after the fact.. why now? Who the ♥♥♥♥ knows.. Cos STEAM.

...Anyway, I'm salty as ♥♥♥♥ and chain smoked the entire time I was writing this.. I hope one of you ♥♥♥♥ monkeys at steam reads this, and i really hope who ever the open mouth breathing jerk face that thought this was a good idea to implement gets bowel cancer and dies covered and smelling like ♥♥♥♥, because their ideas are ♥♥♥♥ and ♥♥♥♥ is a fitting substance to always think of when you think of the person who's idea this mobile authenticator was.

[Brujeira]

Surely your next step is to see if you can receive text messages to your existing landline, grab an Android emulator for your PC and set up the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Authenticator that way? What? You thought that all of the traders doing the 95% of trades that already go through the Authnticator system actually own cellphones?

[Aahzmandias]

Yes, I am pretty sure some of them are using an android emulator on PC, that shows, that the security system Valve tries to force on us is worth nothing at all.

They count on the theory, that most of us are too dumb to install an emulator and the app. Or use a real cell phone.

To install this, you have to get the auth through your landline, to init the android app with that number.

But I don't think, that is is very smart, to type your steam login into an open android emulator, that is a risk on itself. So I didn't do it. ;)

[[GOH]thrivill29]

I mean I have a cell phone, and I don't want to use the steam app to verify my account, its a lot more work. I almost lost my account for ever because I had to verify my phone again for some reason by revieving a text (I had recently gotten a new phone so I had a new number), and I couldn't log onto my steam at all because I couldn't verify it. I had to message support, and verify that the account was mine. It was a very overwhelming traumatic experience. I couldn't log into my comuter or phone, so that I could verify my comuter. Thank god that I don't need verification for the steam support account.

[The Rock God]

Your OP would have been a lot shorter had you not started from a false premise.

Newporg の投稿を引用：

So of course what happens, steam forces a mobile authenticator on every ones accounts... that just so happens to be an App, you can easily download for free, on a cellphone..

The authenticator is not being forced on everyone.

[Rufus]

I agree with you completely, I feel that steam are forcing me into a position where I will have to get an android phone. I like you don't have one. I'm an old gamer (in my 60's) I have more than 1500 games on steam. One of my favourite parts of steam is the selling of the trading cards to gradually save enough for a new game, it feels a bit like getting a game for free. I have a few issues with this new "so called) security measure, First of all, who pays for these text messages, because if it is us then selling cards will become a non profit pastime. Secondly, I read through the regs re this system about a month ago and though I don't recall the exact details I remember seeing a few pitfalls that could lead to people being locked out of there accounts for quite a while and op talks about one of the very pitfalls I identified happening to him. There is also the fact that every time I log in via my browser instead of the steam interface and my library etc. I am told by steam that I am logging in from a new PC, this happens every single time and in fact happened when I logged in just now to post this. So if Steam cannot recognise that I am using the same browser on the same PC via the same modem and the same ISP every time I log in then I foresee many issues with this system for me. Oh , and BTW, what about windows phones ? you know, the OS that runs steams interface on most peoples PC's I say this because if I did buy a mobile phone it would most likely be Lumia windows phone which has been excluded I s'pose because of Gabes reputed dislike of Microsoft (I actually like Windows). The way things are atm means that on the trading and selling market, those who have registered a phone have a distinct advantage over those that don't when it comes to buying or trading. seems unfair to me. One more thing, Steam say that this new app has around a 90% take up and they want to encourage the remaining 10% to also go with it. I would just like to point out that 90% is probably around the amount of people who have a mobile phone and that the remaining 10% probably don't have one.

Just edit this to say, because steam claim I am using a new browser (again , I'm not) I have just been banned from market transactions for seven days, which of course takes me in to the new regs - the 15 day hold. So thats my market trading/selling over, fini .

[munstre]

I currently just use an android simulator that has my info (e-mail, phone number, etc) that I used for my steam authenticator app. Sure it's a bit dangerous but with the correct security it's fine. It's not hard to open up to accept a trade or login to a website that requires it, and it's also not hard to get into.

[Rufus]

FMJ | kickback.com の投稿を引用：

I currently just use an android simulator that has my info (e-mail, phone number, etc) that I used for my steam authenticator app. Sure it's a bit dangerous but with the correct security it's fine. It's not hard to open up to accept a trade or login to a website that requires it, and it's also not hard to get into.

Someone else mentioned this earlier in this thread but it sounds a bit dodgy to me but thanks for the advice, it's appreciated (if you were talking to me and not op) I'm sure I will get over the market after all it's games that I'm here for, everything else is just a side event.

[munstre]

rufusdufus の投稿を引用：

FMJ | kickback.com の投稿を引用：

I currently just use an android simulator that has my info (e-mail, phone number, etc) that I used for my steam authenticator app. Sure it's a bit dangerous but with the correct security it's fine. It's not hard to open up to accept a trade or login to a website that requires it, and it's also not hard to get into.

Someone else mentioned this earlier in this thread but it sounds a bit dodgy to me but thanks for the advice, it's appreciated (if you were talking to me and not op) I'm sure I will get over the market after all it's games that I'm here for, everything else is just a side event.

It was to whomever. Mainly to OP about his post. But I use it pretty much everyday. Not dodgy at all. I was skeptical but it's not a bad option if you don't like to use phone/don't have one that supports the app.

[Rufus]

FMJ | kickback.com の投稿を引用：

rufusdufus の投稿を引用：

Someone else mentioned this earlier in this thread but it sounds a bit dodgy to me but thanks for the advice, it's appreciated (if you were talking to me and not op) I'm sure I will get over the market after all it's games that I'm here for, everything else is just a side event.

It was to whomever. Mainly to OP about his post. But I use it pretty much everyday. Not dodgy at all. I was skeptical but it's not a bad option if you don't like to use phone/don't have one that supports the app.

It's partly that but also it feels a bit distasteful the way they have sort of stealthed this in bit by bit. I'm of the opinion that we are only now getting to what this is all about and when they first started these new security measures they already knew that this was where it was leading. Notice that there is no new security when you are paying them for something which is surely just as risk ridden as trading on the steam market. We wouldn't want anything to interfere with giving them money now would we.

[Trancos]

Any help with how to use an Android emulator? I don't have a cellphone and don't know where to start to emulate an android...

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

rufusdufus の投稿を引用：

Just edit this to say, because steam claim I am using a new browser (again , I'm not) I have just been banned from market transactions for seven days, which of course takes me in to the new regs - the 15 day hold. So thats my market trading/selling over, fini .

When a browser updates its version, that's usually when Steam notices a change and wants reverification.

[Abisha]

? i not notice anything of this. and i also not own a goverment tracking device

[76561198001062896]

Abisha の投稿を引用：

? i not notice anything of this. and i also not own a goverment tracking device

if you use internet , you can also be readily tracked by the government, just sayin

if you want to actually hide completely your tracks

stop using any social media
stop using free online email services

start using Tor and subscribe for a VPN service that operates in a country where they cannot be forced to hand out userdata.

[Petersaber]

The Rock God の投稿を引用：

The authenticator is not being forced on everyone.

But they are trying to make living without it as hard as possible. I mean, you can eat soup with chopsticks instead of a spoon, but you can probably imagine how inconvenient that is.

[Gakko]

Yes, this is ruining the game for a friend of mine who doesn't own a smartphone. You see, we live in a hell hole of a country, not everyone can afford one (the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ smartphones available in U.S. are luxury where I live because of taxes and ♥♥♥♥), this is COMMON SENSE for a huge company like Valve, I don't get it why the hell they didn't think about it some more.