A Huge Red Flag for Knight Online

[RattPackPat]

Since playing this game when it first came out in 2004 in Maylasia to the opening the U.S. version, Knight Online has been know as one of the worst games.

It's not known for that because of the game itself. It's simply because of the horrible companies that run it such as K2 and now NTTGame. These companies promote corrupt behavior and work ethics. They allow a legal form of hacking by purchasing the "service" inside the Power-Up Store, in exchange for real currency. Prior to this, it was illegal for this service, they just now make money on it. I can continue my rant about their corrupt business nature, but that's for another story.

Today the real issue is at hand. After noticing that inside their Power-Up Store they offer a "Sale" for "Discounted Items" within in it. However, this "sale" is actually a price rise http://tinypic.com/r/20j21s7/9
This is known as false advertising for their thousands of customers, whom maybe may or may not of taken noticed of the false "sale" going on.

The reason I bring this up is to point out the real PROBLEM. Today I posted in the forums about how that ever since i bought premium, a service that gives priority for logging into servers and increased exp, I was unable to log in for 4 hours. Prior to this I was able to log in a lot sooner without paying and have only recently been experiencing problems since I've bought their services, oddly enough.

I created a thread within the game's Discussion Page to address this issue along with many more. After continuing a rant, like this one, I was BANNED from the service for using "bad language", however there was no cuss words in my thread. I believe they banned me and removed the thread so others aren't aware of the problems Knight Online is known for having, they have seriously become a huge downgrade for Steam and I'm expecting someone from Steam to look into Knight Online's corrupt business scheme, horrible customer service, and neglect of fixing any issues.

I'd tell everyone to avoid the game in general, for they require users to Pay-To-Win.
A decent set of gear would cost you around 700mill in-game. To convert that to non-KO players, that's around $210. That's absurd and there are many more free games offered by Steam that don't make you spend money to have fun. If you don't spend money on this game, you won't make it anywhere since you need to buy at least $30 worth of premium to access the #1 channel on each server at any given point.

I truly hope someone from Steam can look into this. As someone who has ran a private KO server years ago, I can tell you this company that's leeching money is miles behind from what I did within 1 month of owning a server.

~End Rant~

[Zefar]

Publicado originalmente por LaScalala:

I created a thread within the game's Discussion Page to address this issue along with many more. After continuing a rant, like this one, I was BANNED from the service for using "bad language", however there was no cuss words in my thread. I believe they banned me and removed the thread so others aren't aware of the problems Knight Online is known for having, they have seriously become a huge downgrade for Steam and I'm expecting someone from Steam to look into Knight Online's corrupt business scheme, horrible customer service, and neglect of fixing any issues.

You told them to remove their head out of their ass. That kinda gives them a reason to ban you and remove your thread.

As for their business model. I don't believe Valve will check it up because a lot of Free to play games have this where you can buy gears and such but if you farm for it and even if it takes several hundreds of hours it's fine.

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Valve cant do much about how a company operates their MMO, regardless of how "corrupt" there may be. Their games: their rules.

You are fooling yourself if you think that they can or should tell another company how to manage things.

With that being said, I read the reviews for that game, sadly its nothing special in games that are mostly geared toward the asian/whales market, especially since companies like R2 games have proven countless times that pay-to-win can be a successful business model.

As long as there is a market for it, it will exist. Businesses first and foremost exist to make money and thats it.

Btw ever heard of the saying "you get what you pay for"? Aka if you pay nothing then be grateful if you get anything.

[76561198001062896]

Publicado originalmente por Zefar:

Publicado originalmente por LaScalala:

I created a thread within the game's Discussion Page to address this issue along with many more. After continuing a rant, like this one, I was BANNED from the service for using "bad language", however there was no cuss words in my thread. I believe they banned me and removed the thread so others aren't aware of the problems Knight Online is known for having, they have seriously become a huge downgrade for Steam and I'm expecting someone from Steam to look into Knight Online's corrupt business scheme, horrible customer service, and neglect of fixing any issues.

You told them to remove their head out of their ass. That kinda gives them a reason to ban you and remove your thread.

As for their business model. I don't believe Valve will check it up because a lot of Free to play games have this where you can buy gears and such but if you farm for it and even if it takes several hundreds of hours it's fine.

Exactly

Also I fail to see personally why Valve should police F2P games as long as they arent doing anything detrimental to Steam as a service itself.

[RattPackPat]

Publicado originalmente por Zefar:

Publicado originalmente por LaScalala:

I created a thread within the game's Discussion Page to address this issue along with many more. After continuing a rant, like this one, I was BANNED from the service for using "bad language", however there was no cuss words in my thread. I believe they banned me and removed the thread so others aren't aware of the problems Knight Online is known for having, they have seriously become a huge downgrade for Steam and I'm expecting someone from Steam to look into Knight Online's corrupt business scheme, horrible customer service, and neglect of fixing any issues.

You told them to remove their head out of their ass. That kinda gives them a reason to ban you and remove your thread.

As for their business model. I don't believe Valve will check it up because a lot of Free to play games have this where you can buy gears and such but if you farm for it and even if it takes several hundreds of hours it's fine.

I said the word but with an additional "t" not the alternative beginning with the word A.

Aside from that, what about the false advertising? Or how their service is worsened with a purchase of premium guaranteeing faster connection time to a server channel?

Those seem like pretty big things that Steam should worry about if they're going to have a game on their platform. It's giving Steam a bad name by carrying the weight of a company that doesn't implement patches released a year or so ago or a company that intentionally doesn't improve server status, in-game events, etc. just so it can remain a cash cow.

[76561198001062896]

Publicado originalmente por LaScalala:

Publicado originalmente por Zefar:

You told them to remove their head out of their ass. That kinda gives them a reason to ban you and remove your thread.

As for their business model. I don't believe Valve will check it up because a lot of Free to play games have this where you can buy gears and such but if you farm for it and even if it takes several hundreds of hours it's fine.

I said the word but with an additional "t" not the alternative beginning with the word A.

Aside from that, what about the false advertising? Or how their service is worsened with a purchase of premium guaranteeing faster connection time to a server channel?

Those seem like pretty big things that Steam should worry about if they're going to have a game on their platform. It's giving Steam a bad name by carrying the weight of a company that doesn't implement patches released a year or so ago or a company that intentionally doesn't improve server status, in-game events, etc. just so it can remain a cash cow.

False advertising implies that they ever promised or advertised any feature on the store page that is missing or misleading, which isnt the case here.

Im not sure how it deteriotes Valve status that a random MMO is not being updated as it should be

Or do you yell at sites like Armorgames if they host p2w mmo-s?

Beside most often than not all Valve host is the launcher of said game and everything else happens outside of Steamservices (other than steam overlay support and such)

[RattPackPat]

How is that item being under the "SALE" tab but showing from 3499 in price to 3699 in price which is actually a price hike, not false advertising. That's like saying "we normally charge $1 for bananas, but today they're on sale for $2."

That item is specifically under a "Sale" tab within the store, but implies the item is a price hike.
That's false advertising.

"Deceptive advertising, also known as false advertising, refers to a manufacturer's use of confusing, misleading, or blatantly untrue statements when promoting a product ." -Consumer Laws

With this product being sold at a price that's misleading, confusing, and blatantly untrue in accordance with it supposedly being a "Sale" shows how it's false advertising. Not if an item is missing from a store. This is indisputable.

My problem with this game is that it has taken advantage of customers, without owning up to it, displaying the poor work morals of NTTGame.

I was hoping for a Steam employee to side with me on this and see if there's anything they can do. If not, then oh well

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You can always flag the game if you feel that they are doing anything shady

[RattPackPat]

Publicado originalmente por Zetikla:

You can always flag the game if you feel that they are doing anything shady

How so?

[76561198001062896]

Publicado originalmente por LaScalala:

Publicado originalmente por Zetikla:

You can always flag the game if you feel that they are doing anything shady

How so?

Scroll dow a bit at the game's store page and you should see a little flag icon