Why are fromsoftware games so expensive on steam?

[niralamart000]

A bit high on their own ego aren't they these publishers, only reason why i would buy a license with a drm like dark souls 3 and armored core is cause of the amazing mods and whatever compatibility that comes with it, and of course pvp. Idk if it's my region but seriously outside from u.s who is gonna pay 70 dollars for armored core now or 40 dollars for dks1?

edit: it seems a blocked user was first to reply but i'm not engaging or seeing it's reply, everyone i block gives nonsensical input and is trolling

[Haruspex]

Originalmente postado por lsdninja:

They know idiots will pay it, that’s why.

In a less abrasive manner, this is basically it. Products are worth what people are willing to pay. Fromsoft games sell well at the prices they are set at.

[Kargor]

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

A bit high on their own ego aren't they these publishers, only reason why i would buy a license with a drm like dark souls 3 and armored core is cause of the amazing mods and whatever compatibility that comes with it, and of course pvp. Idk if it's my region but seriously outside from u.s who is gonna pay 70 dollars for armored core now or 40 dollars for dks1?

Again, prices are set by the publishers. Some publishers prefer to not have great sale discounts, so they stick to lower ones.

It's simply up to them. If they think they are better off selling fewer games at higher prices, then that's just what they'll do.

Besides, while I don't track these games (since I'm not interested in them), Dark Souls III currently has a -66% sale going on. They haven't had significantly better discounts for a while, but I've seen franchises that capped out at -50% or even just -40%.

Remember, NOBODY lives from sales numbers. People want money.

[AustrAlien2010]

Its too dry for me to look into, but here you can read about fromSoftware's financial reports:
https://www.cbinsights.com/company/fromsoftware/financials

[KalGimpa]

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

Originalmente postado por brian9824:

That is indeed how it works. There could be multiple reasons for the game being priced as it is, the only one who can tell you why is the publisher/developer.

One of the many many reasons why it might be $70 for instance is that video games have not kept pace with inflation and are basically at one of he lowest price points they have ever been at for the last 30 years.

There could have also been licensing issues, or other reasons for the higher price. Although in the US its $60, not $70 if your talking about Armored Core 6

making useless support tickets to customer support amounts to nothing but trolling

what is it you think you are going to get from the users on this board?

all we can do is give our opinion on what we think is the reason

if all you are going to do is tell people they are wrong

why did you start this?

the only people who can give you a true answer work at the company

[nullable]

Originalmente postado por lsdninja:

They know idiots will pay it, that’s why.

Valuing something doesn't make you an idiot. Neither does being able/willing to pay the asking price.

You're welcome to feel differently. If you want it less, or aren't willing to pay the asking price waiting for a sale is fine. But framing other people as idiots because they have different values is pretty short sighted ego massaging propaganda.

[D. Flame]

Same reason a lot of games from Japanese devs are. They post it and forget it. They never look at it again after uploading it. This is why Steam needs auto decaying prices by default.

[nullable]

Originalmente postado por D. Flame:

Same reason a lot of games from Japanese devs are. They post it and forget it. They never look at it again after uploading it. This is why Steam needs auto decaying prices by default.

Except for the fact Steam doesn't manage game prices, the game owners do. So, don't hold your breath. Also your assumption that games are worth less as they age is also kind of dated. Yeah, that's what you've been used to, but games age differently now. And retailers aren't desperate to clear inventory of old games anymore, so no reason for those prices to automatically decrease.

[D. Flame]

Originalmente postado por nullable:

Originalmente postado por D. Flame:

Same reason a lot of games from Japanese devs are. They post it and forget it. They never look at it again after uploading it. This is why Steam needs auto decaying prices by default.

Except for the fact Steam doesn't manage game prices, the game owners do. So, don't hold your breath. Also your assumption that games are worth less as they age is also kind of dated. Yeah, that's what you've been used to, but games age differently now. And retailers aren't desperate to clear inventory of old games anymore, so no reason for those prices to automatically decrease.

False. Steam dictates that they get a 30% cut, and publishers piss and moan about that all the time but can't do anything about it. Steam could set any terms that they wanted, including auto decaying prices.

[Komarimaru]

Originalmente postado por D. Flame:

Originalmente postado por nullable:

Except for the fact Steam doesn't manage game prices, the game owners do. So, don't hold your breath. Also your assumption that games are worth less as they age is also kind of dated. Yeah, that's what you've been used to, but games age differently now. And retailers aren't desperate to clear inventory of old games anymore, so no reason for those prices to automatically decrease.

False. Steam dictates that they get a 30% cut, and publishers piss and moan about that all the time but can't do anything about it. Steam could set any terms that they wanted, including auto decaying prices.

No, Valve could not dictate prices and never have. They don't control it and never will.

No idea how you thought they could, not even legal to do so.

If I'm selling something on a platform, I set the price. I'd be quite upset if said platform decided they didn't like the price and tried to dictate what my work was worth.

The only exception to this rule is if Steam was a retailer that bought product first, and paid the manufacturer/developer the set price first, to then sell it for lower.

But hey, if you can actually post some information that says otherwise, be my guest.

[niralamart000]

Originalmente postado por Kargor:

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

A bit high on their own ego aren't they these publishers, only reason why i would buy a license with a drm like dark souls 3 and armored core is cause of the amazing mods and whatever compatibility that comes with it, and of course pvp. Idk if it's my region but seriously outside from u.s who is gonna pay 70 dollars for armored core now or 40 dollars for dks1?

Again, prices are set by the publishers. Some publishers prefer to not have great sale discounts, so they stick to lower ones.

It's simply up to them. If they think they are better off selling fewer games at higher prices, then that's just what they'll do.

Besides, while I don't track these games (since I'm not interested in them), Dark Souls III currently has a -66% sale going on. They haven't had significantly better discounts for a while, but I've seen franchises that capped out at -50% or even just -40%.

Remember, NOBODY lives from sales numbers. People want money.

after elden ring the prices were absurdly increased, also learn to read the post before commenting something completely unrelated

[niralamart000]

Originalmente postado por KalCuey:

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

making useless support tickets to customer support amounts to nothing but trolling

what is it you think you are going to get from the users on this board?

all we can do is give our opinion on what we think is the reason

if all you are going to do is tell people they are wrong

why did you start this?

the only people who can give you a true answer work at the company

what is to you, just ignore and move on?

[Komarimaru]

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

Originalmente postado por Kargor:

Again, prices are set by the publishers. Some publishers prefer to not have great sale discounts, so they stick to lower ones.

It's simply up to them. If they think they are better off selling fewer games at higher prices, then that's just what they'll do.

Besides, while I don't track these games (since I'm not interested in them), Dark Souls III currently has a -66% sale going on. They haven't had significantly better discounts for a while, but I've seen franchises that capped out at -50% or even just -40%.

Remember, NOBODY lives from sales numbers. People want money.

after elden ring the prices were absurdly increased, also learn to read the post before commenting something completely unrelated

Could you clarify what you mean?

Dark Souls 3 launched at 59.99 and has stayed there, with a few sales to drop it considerably lower. Sekiro is much the same as has Elden Ring.

I've seen no increase in prices over their entire release for any Fromsoft Game for their entire history on Steam, so curious why you make this claim.

[niralamart000]

Originalmente postado por Haruspex:

Originalmente postado por lsdninja:

They know idiots will pay it, that’s why.

In a less abrasive manner, this is basically it. Products are worth what people are willing to pay. Fromsoft games sell well at the prices they are set at.

is it really that bad over there, are usa gamers buying these games that much that it's better to keep it near 60 without sale, this happened after elden ring but before then i was seeing pretty reasonable discounts. that accursed game really was a disaster, bland as it is, should have seen what the "open world" gimmick they advertised was surely to give them a huge ego boost.

[niralamart000]

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

after elden ring the prices were absurdly increased, also learn to read the post before commenting something completely unrelated

Could you clarify what you mean?

Dark Souls 3 launched at 59.99 and has stayed there, with a few sales to drop it considerably lower. Sekiro is much the same as has Elden Ring.

I've seen no increase in prices over their entire release for any Fromsoft Game for their entire history on Steam, so curious why you make this claim.

don't know on your end but the deluxe edition was heavily discounted many times before elden ring was ever advertised

edit: and of course dark souls 1 and dark crud 2

[niralamart000]

Originalmente postado por D. Flame:

Same reason a lot of games from Japanese devs are. They post it and forget it. They never look at it again after uploading it. This is why Steam needs auto decaying prices by default.

is that really a common occurrence, well unless consent is involved i doubt that feature would ever be approved. Valve itself doesn't really care anyways, they were the ones to tell publishers to raise prices by 400% in areas where publishers were seeing people region hop too.