Steam is killing PC gaming

[Razor]

Steam's monopoly is killing the PC gaming industry.. just look at their model over the years.. they used to have a decent library of free to play games or fairly priced games.. now they sell failed AAA titles for premium prices and before people say "stop it's not steam it's the developers" do you think steam hosts the games free for them? Nope that add's a premium to the costs.. I've spent more money on other platforms than steam in the last 5 years..

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Origineel geplaatst door Razor:

seems like you need to go back to school and understand what a monopoly is.. wow lol... no brains here

Then why don't you explain what monopoly is?

If there are 5 restaurants in a row, and one restaurant has more customers than others, it's not monopoly. It's just reflection of public opinion that they prefer one over others. Because their service is better and has more food items, simple. (also read comment #46).

[Seraphita]

Origineel geplaatst door 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:

Origineel geplaatst door Razor:

seems like you need to go back to school and understand what a monopoly is.. wow lol... no brains here

Then why don't you explain what monopoly is?

If there are 5 restaurants in a row, and one restaurant has more customers than others, it's not monopoly. It's just reflection of public opinion that they prefer one over others. Because their service is better and has more food items. (read comment #46).

Notice how he said "No brains here". He's the same type of trolls that I see often. He's not here to debate anything but to insult people out of nowhere and pretend that everyone else are idiots. The whole "Go back to school" is also a straight giveaway. It's... interesting.

[Pierce Dalton]

Origineel geplaatst door 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:

Origineel geplaatst door Razor:

seems like you need to go back to school and understand what a monopoly is.. wow lol... no brains here

Then why don't you explain what monopoly is?

If there are 5 restaurants in a row, and one restaurant has more customers than others, it's not monopoly. It's just reflection of public opinion that they prefer one over others.

Not necessarily. It's important to keep in mind that many games are available only on Steam, so you can't buy them elsewhere even if you prefer to.

[El Mythical 23 k.s.c.]

I agree with OP it was much better when department stores sold video games without taking a portion of the sale price...

[Seraphita]

"Steam is killing PC gaming!" Meanwhile, PC gaming:

https://i.imgur.com/fGInm0e.png

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

Origineel geplaatst door 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:

Then why don't you explain what monopoly is?

If there are 5 restaurants in a row, and one restaurant has more customers than others, it's not monopoly. It's just reflection of public opinion that they prefer one over others.

Not necessarily. It's important to keep in mind that many games are available only on Steam, so you can't buy them elsewhere even if you prefer to.

Steam has nothing to do with it if some games are exclusive to Steam (except for Valve's own games like Half life or Portal).

It's the developers decision that they put their games on steam and not other platforms.
Partly because steam has no censorship, and cheap and easy accessible for all kinds of developers, especially indie or small developers. ( I have covered it in comment # 46.)

It has nothing to do with monopoly.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Origineel geplaatst door Pierce Dalton:

Origineel geplaatst door 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:

Then why don't you explain what monopoly is?

If there are 5 restaurants in a row, and one restaurant has more customers than others, it's not monopoly. It's just reflection of public opinion that they prefer one over others.

Not necessarily. It's important to keep in mind that many games are available only on Steam, so you can't buy them elsewhere even if you prefer to.

Also not necessarily Steam's fault, Devs have a choice of one or all distribution methods...

[Haruspex]

The people saying Steam is a "monopoly" aren't anti-monopoly. They are anti-success. They think because Steam is successful, it should be crippled so it's more "fair" to other competing services.

It's like equality measures taken in the book "Fahrenheit 451". If someone is too smart, they are made to wear an ear piece that blasts random noises to disrupt their thought processes. A very skilled dancer is forced to wear weights so she doesn't have an unfair advantage over the less skilled dancers. She was too attractive, so she was made to wear an ugly mask.

What if we applied this to games, or anything else? If a game is "too good" and selling better than other games, should it be made worse just so that it's more fair to those lesser games? If a student scores better on tests than the other students, should he be docked points just so the other, dumber students don't feel bad?

We shouldn't be dragging everything down to the lowest common denominator out of "fairness". Instead, we should celebrate Steam's success and view it as the benchmark that all other competing services should measure against. We should encourage other services to match or exceed Steam's functionality and features, rather than call for Steam to be dumbed down out of "fairness".

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

This accusation towards Steam is hilarious once you realize there is a storefront that was trying to be a monolopy. It was EGS. But of course, that doesn't fit into the "♥♥♥♥ Valve" mindset, so it's ignored.

[Brutalness]

50+ gamea in 19 years

[nullpo]

Origineel geplaatst door Xhoas:

It's not even a monopoly...

steam is market leader by a huge margin, but by no means a monopoly

[J4MESOX4D]

Origineel geplaatst door 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:

Origineel geplaatst door Razor:

seems like you need to go back to school and understand what a monopoly is.. wow lol... no brains here

Then why don't you explain what monopoly is?

If there are 5 restaurants in a row, and one restaurant has more customers than others, it's not monopoly. It's just reflection of public opinion that they prefer one over others. Because their service is better and has more food items, simple. (also read comment #46).

Exactly. People seem to confuse success with a monopoly. Steam doesn't pay for exclusivity and it doesn't have exclusives either plus there is no paid-for advertising. Developers consciously choose Steam because of its player-base and feature-laden platform. The only ones trying to monopolise the PC gaming space is Epic who are using money to buy their way forward rather than developing their platform with USP's and allowing publishers to choose based on other aspects than financial perks.

[Kargor]

Origineel geplaatst door El Mythical 23 k.s.c.:

I agree with OP it was much better when department stores sold video games without taking a portion of the sale price... :conwayfacepalm:

Precisely. Also, them being completely unbiased -- there was no way some publisher could just give them money for a better shelf-space. All games were treated fairly and equally, whether it was a big blockbuster or a tiny indie game.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

People got very odd definitions of what a monopoly is as evident by accusing Valve of being one and Epic of trying to be one. Neither ring true.

[nullpo]

I think if OP wants to know what true monopoly means, just look at US air ambulance industry. The "customer" have no choice but to purchase the service (since they're unconcious and even then doctor make the decision to use it not patient/relatives), the government can't control the price, and they have no competitors, so they can charge whatever they want.