I gambled and bought keys

[KilledJoy]

Bought one of those random 5 games from steam keys got utter complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games that are 200% scams. Forgot that indie games existed and they sell asset flip projects and "my 2 weekend project" type quallity games at $60... paid barely anything but still didnt get my moneys worth. Brings back the question... why let indie developers publish games to steam.. You gotta funnel hundreds upon hundreds of games to find 1 gem in that category usually if ever AND pray it matches up what its worth quality with price.


I basically got 5 side scroller games that look like they were made in a single weekend with unpaid interns and slapped a price tag on it for laughs. ... I deserve this for thinking indie games are good. (on average)

[Pscht]

You bought random stuff and now you are complaining you weren't given five new AAA games? Uh...

[KilledJoy]

Originally posted by Pscht:

You bought random stuff and now you are complaining you weren't given five new AAA games? Uh...

if you perhaps read, and comprehend.

Basically yes, AAA price tag is around $60, expecting AROUND $60 of effort and quallity. Its not hard to understand. Even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Cyberpunk at its worst is better then half the indie games put together. SO yes. Also where did i say i expected new top games? i expect what i pay for.

Keep in mind i realize this was a gamble lol but the results are still a joke.

[nullable]

Originally posted by KilledJoy:

Keep in mind i realize this was a gamble lol but the results are still a joke.

Just sounds like a way for you to rationalize gambling next time, instead of learning a lesson about gambling.

Originally posted by KilledJoy:

why let indie developers publish games to steam..

Well there's a bit of history to it. The short story is, it's what Steam customers wanted, and Valve no longer wished to be a gatekeeper and customers weren't all that happy with Valve's gate keeping. Yeah, there's lots of trash. but nothing good is obstructed from being released on Steam and that's the trade off.

Although personally I don't have trouble finding good games.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by KilledJoy:

i expect what i pay for.

And you got exactly what you paid for. You are aware how such mystery things work, right? There is a very small chance to get something good, the rest will be lower value stuff. Otherwise the "house" wouldn't be making money on it.

You should manage your expectations better when purchasing mystery or random stuff.

[KilledJoy]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by KilledJoy:

i expect what i pay for.

And you got exactly what you paid for. You are aware how such mystery things work, right? There is a very small chance to get something good, the rest will be lower value stuff. Otherwise the "house" wouldn't be making money on it.

You should manage your expectations better when purchasing mystery or random stuff.

"GURANTEE VALUE AT $60" = I EXPECT $60 IN 'VALUE' . what part of that do you not get. In no sense of anything is that "what i paid for" despite it being a random draw you are missing the point on purpose must be at this point.

[Pscht]

Show us what it REALLY says. Not what you think it does.

[nullable]

Originally posted by KilledJoy:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

And you got exactly what you paid for. You are aware how such mystery things work, right? There is a very small chance to get something good, the rest will be lower value stuff. Otherwise the "house" wouldn't be making money on it.

You should manage your expectations better when purchasing mystery or random stuff.

"GURANTEE VALUE AT $60" = I EXPECT $60 IN 'VALUE' . what part of that do you not get. In no sense of anything is that "what i paid for" despite it being a random draw you are missing the point on purpose must be at this point.

Take that up with whoever made the guarantee. Sounds like you're blaming the wrong party now.

Aside from that guaranteeing value is pretty hazy. I value Atari 2600 Pac-Man at $60 and you value it at $0.60. Who's valuation is "correct". It's all a matter of perspective and the claim itself seems suspect and scammy to me, certainly worked on you.

Originally posted by Pscht:

Show us what it REALLY says. Not what you think it does.

Yeah, I'd agree, no reason we should trust your interpretations. And there shouldn't be any reason you can't point us at the thing you're complaining about to make our own appraisals, unless...

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

So basically you bought "mystery keys" from 3rd party website that very likely didn't promise you any specific game what you get exactly beyond RNG game keys.

If you want to agure against this, please state site name where you bought mystery keys from, if you choose not to do this, then means you're hiding this information because don't want everyone to know what it really says on their site. We can't read your mind, nor know what site you visited, hence why you should state site name.

[Pscht]

Fanatical (formerly Bundlestars) keeps pushing Mystery Bundles. I bought some when they were new but I quickly figured they just offload crap they couldn't sell otherwise and I stopped. Judging by the frequency "new" bundles pop up, they keep finding enough marks.

[Zarineth]

Why do you shift blame from gamblimg site (and of course yourself) onto indie developers? It's not Valve's nor indie devs fault you lost on lottery.


I remember someone saying once, that to win anything on lottery, you have to pay at least twice the prize you want to win. That's why I don't gamble.

[HikariLight]

When you do ANY sort of gambling, don't expect to come out a winner.
You played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
Use of any third party site is a 'use at own risk' and if you get screwed over, that is your own fault.

[Bee🐝]

How in the world is Valve to blame for this? It was a mystery key sale and you gambled and lost.

As for indie games? Valve sells them because a bunch are better, and more creative, then most of the stuff AAA publishers shove out the door every year.

If you want to gamble, next time just buy Fanatical games and then have them throw in the mystery keys for free. For 60, you could’ve received at most 5 free keys as a bonus along with games you actually wanted.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Pscht:

Fanatical (formerly Bundlestars) keeps pushing Mystery Bundles. I bought some when they were new but I quickly figured they just offload crap they couldn't sell otherwise and I stopped. Judging by the frequency "new" bundles pop up, they keep finding enough marks.

It's a good way for them to move games they couldn't sell, but yeah it's often used to offload things, many sites do this if they sell RNG games.

But I have feeling OP couldn't read, or mislead themselves into believing some kind of bs thinking they're gonna get something they want without understanding what RNG means.

[J4MESOX4D]

Those mystery box/keys are all scummy even from the reputable retailers. If you think you're gonna get a £60 game by paying £1, it really isn't gonna happen and if it does, the chances are so minimal, you'd have to pay the cost of the entire game to stand any chance.

If you want a big AAA game then it's best to buy it outright. This concept is just so retailers can offload dead stock and grab extra money.

[Kargor]

In short: there's a reason why I never bought anything random in the more than 10 years I've been using Steam...

I think I got a "random" game at some point because I spent enough on a single purchase to qualify, but that rarely happens.