Unfair ban and targeting on steam discussions for "disrespect"

[bedhead]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/3878218563600563095/?tscn=1695935280

I made a post on the Cyberpunk 2077 forum. Explaining things such as changes and criticizing them from a new update. Do you disagree? Fair. But that doesn't warrant banning me. Lock the post for all I care, but a ban to me was completely unfair and out of line. I did not break any guidelines what so ever for my initial post that I was warned for.

"This post has been identified as being disrespectful. When posting in the Community, please ensure that content is respectful and constructive."

There was zero disrespect in my post. It was fully constructive. If you're going to ban posts like this, then you're telling people that they cannot voice their opinions, nor can they criticize things that are valid.

I truly believe this was a mistake, or I've been targeted for speaking my opinion, and they did not like it, so they tried to silence me.

IS this how you're going to treat your users steam? At what point in my initial post was I being "disrespectful" for making valid criticism to a change in a game? Where did I insult, or disrespect anyone? Is it that you cannot handle criticism, and silence people who make it constructive?

I've already contacted steam support about this matter. However, I'd like the public eye to see how I'm being treated in the forums, and in general. This is unbelievable, and outright disrespect to nobody other than myself as I've done NOTHING wrong here.

You really need to change what you consider "disrespectful".

This is probably going to immediately be deleted, or locked because I'm calling you out, and respectfully so. So continue to abuse your powers and silence people just because you don't like something and I will no longer support this platform.

[xBCxRangers]

Very common complaint. "Moderation". It's an issue, def one of mine with twice a week bans, but these sites and game hubs may see regulatory measures coming up the pike, and may overreact. I see it on YT all the tine.

Some game hubs, to be quite honest, are run by people who i wouldn't have run a lemonade stand. And some of them, likely too young for that.

And so, it happens, to some often, to some not as often, but i haven't seen anyone, that i been posting with regularly not get banned. Everyone does.

[bedhead]

Messaggio originale di xBCxRangers:

Very common complaint. "Moderation". It's an issue, def one of mine with twice a week bans, but these sites and game hubs may see regulatory measures coming up the pike, and may overreact. I see it on YT all the tine.

Some game hubs, to be quite honest, are run by people who i wouldn't have run a lemonade stand. And some of them, likely too young for that.

And so, it happens, to some often, to some not as often, but i haven't seen anyone, that i been posting with regularly not get banned. Everyone does.

They seem to like to be trigger happy but in this case on power trips ban happy on things that aren't warrant bans such as my post.

They're offended by my post? That wasn't the intention, yet somehow was labeled as "disrespect". By this definition, they might as well go and silence everyone else who has any opinion or voice fairly criticizing things.

Currently, steam forums are just a ban fest, regardless of what you say. While they accuse you of "breaking steams guidelines" when no guidelines are broken. I've had a similar case with a specific moderator which I believe is corrupt, on a constant power trip banning people who did nothing wrong. But I won't be naming anyone.

Where do you draw the line? They're really taking away things that are actually breaking the steam guidelines. Outright out of control, and something needs to change.

[CurrySpirals]

Preach brother.

[HikariLight]

You do know that unless the game devs opt in for Steam support, the devs can ban you from their hubs for ANY reason?
You trash talk about their game in their hub? They have EVERY right to ban you. They do not need or want to keep someone who may try to create a toxic environment.

[Chompman]

This is not a steam issue but on the game's end as they can hire their own moderators and they have their rules you need to follow.

[xBCxRangers]

Messaggio originale di ✩𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐢✩:

Messaggio originale di xBCxRangers:

Very common complaint. "Moderation". It's an issue, def one of mine with twice a week bans, but these sites and game hubs may see regulatory measures coming up the pike, and may overreact. I see it on YT all the tine.

Some game hubs, to be quite honest, are run by people who i wouldn't have run a lemonade stand. And some of them, likely too young for that.

And so, it happens, to some often, to some not as often, but i haven't seen anyone, that i been posting with regularly not get banned. Everyone does.

They seem to like to be trigger happy but in this case on power trips ban happy on things that aren't warrant bans such as my post.

They're offended by my post? That wasn't the intention, yet somehow was labeled as "disrespect". By this definition, they might as well go and silence everyone else who has any opinion or voice fairly criticizing things.

Currently, steam forums are just a ban fest, regardless of what you say. While they accuse you of "breaking steams guidelines" when no guidelines are broken. I've had a similar case with a specific moderator which I believe is corrupt, on a constant power trip banning people who did nothing wrong. But I won't be naming anyone.

Where do you draw the line? They're really taking away things that are actually breaking the steam guidelines. Outright out of control, and something needs to change.

Yep, very trigger happy, I mean on the game hubs, i tend to fair well, if only but one. But then again, i don't post on them very often. But i def feel your pain here.

But i would say, if you have anything negative to say on a game, and you get momentum, they're not gonna want that. After all, they want to sell games.

In addition, if you get into political matters, i'm fortunate not to get into those matters, but others get banned as if you can predict it will happen.

But altogether, it's just folks that don't know what they're doing, or immaturity (as you said a power trip). Or otherwise people spamming the report buttons, and brigading people.

It's a whole sordid affair. Personally, i think Steam should rid the forums and just go to soley customer support on a one on one basis.

[bedhead]

Messaggio originale di HikariLight:

You do know that unless the game devs opt in for Steam support, the devs can ban you from their hubs for ANY reason?
You trash talk about their game in their hub? They have EVERY right to ban you. They do not need or want to keep someone who may try to create a toxic environment.

No they cannot. They can only ban on steam guidelines being broken. But let's hear you out. I got banned for "disrespect and breaking the steam forums guidelines". This fact right there proves you're incorrect on my situation.

Otherwise THAT is the CREATOR of a toxic environment. Where people get banned, and deleted just because their feelings are hurt by facts, or opinions that were valid, and not insulting what so ever?

Go read throughout my post and see if you see the majority as "toxic". You'll see a couple posts by some people that are toxic, but that's inevitable in a public discussion. Otherwise it's an actual discussion on changes, and led to places that were actually constructive.

Nothing was "trash talked", that's just how they seen it, and decided to get offended over something because their feelings were hurt by what was said. That's not my fault, nor my issue. So I shouldn't be punished as such.

Bad take.

[bedhead]

Messaggio originale di Chompman:

This is not a steam issue but on the game's end as they can hire their own moderators and they have their rules you need to follow.

it's not a steam issue? Oh really?

"This post has been identified as being disrespectful. When posting in the Community, please ensure that content is respectful and constructive.

Our Community Rules and Guidelines article contains more specific information, along with some of our reasoning behind these decisions. This is not a ban - just a reminder to follow the rules when participating in Steam Discussions.

If you have other questions about this warning, please contact Steam Support."

Explain that then.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di HikariLight:

You do know that unless the game devs opt in for Steam support...

Opt out of, not in. Default is in.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/1696058394205125837

[Chompman]

Messaggio originale di ✩𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐢✩:

Messaggio originale di HikariLight:

You do know that unless the game devs opt in for Steam support, the devs can ban you from their hubs for ANY reason?
You trash talk about their game in their hub? They have EVERY right to ban you. They do not need or want to keep someone who may try to create a toxic environment.

No they cannot. They can only ban on steam guidelines being broken. But let's hear you out. I got banned for "disrespect and breaking the steam forums guidelines". This fact right there proves you're incorrect on my situation.

They can as their forums have their own rules for the most part and attacking a companies game is always a risk if they do not like it.

It's their game and they can run it as they see fit and you agreed to it when you agreed to their EULA.

[xBCxRangers]

Messaggio originale di ✩𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐢✩:

Messaggio originale di Chompman:

This is not a steam issue but on the game's end as they can hire their own moderators and they have their rules you need to follow.

it's not a steam issue? Oh really?

"This post has been identified as being disrespectful. When posting in the Community, please ensure that content is respectful and constructive.

Our Community Rules and Guidelines article contains more specific information, along with some of our reasoning behind these decisions. This is not a ban - just a reminder to follow the rules when participating in Steam Discussions.

If you have other questions about this warning, please contact Steam Support."

Explain that then.

I got banned once when they couldn't even cite why. They just cited my conment and said "comments like these are not allowed in the steam community" LOL.

In short, forget the TOS. It means nothing. It's only a guidebook, but in reality, if they want to ban you saying "boo" you'll get banned for that.

[bedhead]

Messaggio originale di Chompman:

Messaggio originale di ✩𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐢✩:

No they cannot. They can only ban on steam guidelines being broken. But let's hear you out. I got banned for "disrespect and breaking the steam forums guidelines". This fact right there proves you're incorrect on my situation.

They can as their forums have their own rules for the most part and attacking a companies game is always a risk if they do not like it.

It's their game and they can run it as they see fit and you agreed to it when you agreed to their EULA.

Interesting. So are you arguing the fact that this is ok to do so? Because it sure seems like it to me.

Problem here isn't the game devs, or the game forum. But again, lets hear you out. Do you think this is something steam should allow if that's the case? Users being banned for disagreements and "attacking a companies game" (which yet again was not achieved for the 5th time said here). Considering you're using those terms, you seem to think no different.

This causes bias and outright unfairness. Only allowing those who they agree with to speak. At this point, criticism is silenced. Which is never a good thing.

[bedhead]

Messaggio originale di xBCxRangers:

Messaggio originale di ✩𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐢✩:

it's not a steam issue? Oh really?

"This post has been identified as being disrespectful. When posting in the Community, please ensure that content is respectful and constructive.

Our Community Rules and Guidelines article contains more specific information, along with some of our reasoning behind these decisions. This is not a ban - just a reminder to follow the rules when participating in Steam Discussions.

If you have other questions about this warning, please contact Steam Support."

Explain that then.

I got banned once when they couldn't even cite why. They just cited my conment and said "comments like these are not allowed in the steam community" LOL.

In short, forget the TOS. It means nothing. It's only a guidebook, but in reality, if they want to ban you saying "boo" you'll get banned for that.

They'll ban you for literally anything. They pick at your words, instigate you, until you say something mildly offensive, or disagreeable that they didn't like (even if it's constructive). Then outright ban you.

I'm convinced to this point that the steam moderators are just trolls who get a kick out of pushing people to say things, and manipulating your words to somehow break a "TOS" that's only applied one sided against you.

[Garry]

The Steam discussions aren't the right place to dispute specific bans. We encourage you to contact Steam Support.