ranger 7/abr./2023 às 14:23
Does steam not moderate?
I continue to see posts with the n-word in them and other examples of bigotry, report them, and no action gets taken? I seriously do not think I will be buying any more games on here and will go to epic if I keep seeing stuff like this.
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ranger 9/abr./2023 às 12:09 
Escrito originalmente por rawWwRrr:
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Clearly they don’t and you seem to have no idea on it. Please go away until you have an actual answer.
You asked for an answer. I provided it. You don't have to agree with it.
Besides the fact it is clearly wrong as they allow things that are against the TOS constantly.
Tito Shivan 9/abr./2023 às 12:10 
Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
God will judge you rules or not.
Meanwhile, the forums are Steam's realm and we have to abide by their rules.
Redde caesari quae sunt caesaris.
Maria 9/abr./2023 às 12:22 
I reported a scam thread in help and tips yesterday.

https://imgur.com/a/NBOFuH7

the screenshot was taken just now :SakuraiEmi_ordinary:
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Escrito originalmente por Paratech2008:

You do realize "free speech" as you defined it does NOT exist on Steam?

Valve will lock threads that violate their rules, and potentially ban people who violate those rules.

Politics, religious, and other discussions are forbidden...

There are forums not moderated by Valve. But that's not implying Valve agrees with how those forums are moderated. It just isn't Valve's problem.
Valve does agree with it if they host it. You can’t possibly claim they are hosting something on their website that they don’t at least condone.


This is false.

It is literally impossible for Valve to know everything posted on their website.

The Steam forums are not a publication. It is User Generated Content.
Paratech2008 9/abr./2023 às 12:30 
Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
Escrito originalmente por rawWwRrr:
You asked for an answer. I provided it. You don't have to agree with it.
Are you a moderator yourself btw? You seem creep out everywhere where censorship needs to be defended. And everyone have a moral and ethical responsibility - especially if you're suppressing others with censorship - no matter if it's valve , steam or moderators or any other. God will judge you rules or not.

Valve has every right to determine what is or is not allowed on their forums.

They own the forums and can restrict discussion of any topic they want.

Free speech is about the government restricting speech and even that has limits.

People nowadays think free speech is anything goes and that never was or is the case.

I can't believe public education can't even teach simple concepts like that in their schools.

:shockedkitty:
The Processor 9/abr./2023 às 12:43 
Perhaps, but as an organization that has monopolized the usage and accessibility of games to the public, it does contribute largely to the ignored behaviors of its community seeping into other gaming communities, internet communities, and real life in-person interactions.
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Perhaps, but as an organization that has monopolized the usage and accessibility of games to the public, it does contribute largely to the ignored behaviors of its community seeping into other gaming communities, internet communities, and real life in-person interactions.
Steam doesn't have a monopoly...otherwise EGS and other storefronts wouldn't exist.
The Processor 9/abr./2023 às 12:59 
Steam no longer enforces its own policies it is self evident, unless it intends to perform in the future on all these occurrences unaddressed on various discussions or in game, it is apparent steam moderation has derailed.

An old virtue of steam was that it had a community which supported the enforcement of its very own code of conduct as seen on this page top right side of screen, "Discussions Rules and Guidelines." This was one of the reasons steam become so popular as opposed to competitor gaming platforms.

'All users are subject to the Steam Subscriber Agreement and Steam Online Conduct.

General Rules
Do not do any of the following:

Flame or insult other members'

Failed moderation has taken a toll congruently across the board of internet media. Stratagem indeed as the vast sea of internet media has aligned on this single issue of turning a cheek to offensive material, to avoid censorship aggravating the facets of everyday life to become particularly incensed. Perhaps the real-world resultant frustrations were not intended in such a widespread manner this is not the resolve. Our issue is moderation, and censorship of communicative interactions on steam forums, and steam controlled multiplayer video games.
The Processor 9/abr./2023 às 13:00 
Escrito originalmente por Leonardo Da Pinchi:
Escrito originalmente por Gamer:
Perhaps, but as an organization that has monopolized the usage and accessibility of games to the public, it does contribute largely to the ignored behaviors of its community seeping into other gaming communities, internet communities, and real life in-person interactions.
Steam doesn't have a monopoly...otherwise EGS and other storefronts wouldn't exist.
A monopoly can be deemed as exclusive possession or control or ownership of a product or service and if you attempt to play a game purchased on steam without a steam account you will be disappointed to discover that steam does indeed have a monopoly of pc games.
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Steam doesn't have a monopoly...otherwise EGS and other storefronts wouldn't exist.
A monopoly can be deemed as exclusive possession or control or ownership of a product or service and if you attempt to play a game purchased on steam without a steam account you will be disappointed to discover that steam does indeed have a monopoly of pc games.
That's not a monopoly, that's DRM.

To cite Steam being a monopoly of games, it'd need to have control of the market. Which, it doesn't, as evident by EGS and other storefronts existing.

A dev CHOOSES to publish on steam, just like they can also publish on GOG, EGS, etc.
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Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
God will judge you rules or not.
Meanwhile, the forums are Steam's realm and we have to abide by their rules.
Redde caesari quae sunt caesaris.
The germans said the same in the '30s, not that im comparing - but never to ask critical questions, are a weakness and abide by rules blindly is a weakness too. I'm not demanding anything, but hey, who knows, maybe steam would change their policy slightly in favor of allowing less censorship. You can rest assure that nothing change for the better anywhere by just doing what you're told blindly. Nothing.
BJWyler 9/abr./2023 às 13:17 
Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
Escrito originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Meanwhile, the forums are Steam's realm and we have to abide by their rules.
Redde caesari quae sunt caesaris.
The germans said the same in the '30s, not that im comparing - but never to ask critical questions, are a weakness and abide by rules blindly is a weakness too. I'm not demanding anything, but hey, who knows, maybe steam would change their policy slightly in favor of allowing less censorship. You can rest assure that nothing change for the better anywhere by just doing what you're told blindly. Nothing.
Yeah, trying to compare what happened in Germany to forums owned by a privately owned company in the US is not a good look. Even if you try to claim you are not comparing, because you really are.
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Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
Escrito originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Meanwhile, the forums are Steam's realm and we have to abide by their rules.
Redde caesari quae sunt caesaris.
The germans said the same in the '30s, not that im comparing - but never to ask critical questions, are a weakness and abide by rules blindly is a weakness too. I'm not demanding anything, but hey, who knows, maybe steam would change their policy slightly in favor of allowing less censorship. You can rest assure that nothing change for the better anywhere by just doing what you're told blindly. Nothing.
Hey look, Godwin's Law in action.
Escrito originalmente por Paratech2008:
Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
Are you a moderator yourself btw? You seem creep out everywhere where censorship needs to be defended. And everyone have a moral and ethical responsibility - especially if you're suppressing others with censorship - no matter if it's valve , steam or moderators or any other. God will judge you rules or not.

Valve has every right to determine what is or is not allowed on their forums.

They own the forums and can restrict discussion of any topic they want.

Free speech is about the government restricting speech and even that has limits.

People nowadays think free speech is anything goes and that never was or is the case.

I can't believe public education can't even teach simple concepts like that in their schools.

:shockedkitty:
Sorry but too many Americans here, apparently think freedom of expression only abides to the government - might be so in the us but not where i live. You need to travel and see for yourself before making yourself wise on something you clearly know nothing about.
That said, I'm still not saying steam does anything illegal and it is an American company - but that doesn't mean that you have to agree and doesn't mean you can't ask critical questions. And - if you're satisfied with steam as it runs through and through, why be bothered and surely you can't think it's a threat to steam, to ask critical questions, in a civilized debate. So why bother at all.
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Escrito originalmente por Cheerio Lads 11th:
The germans said the same in the '30s, not that im comparing - but never to ask critical questions, are a weakness and abide by rules blindly is a weakness too. I'm not demanding anything, but hey, who knows, maybe steam would change their policy slightly in favor of allowing less censorship. You can rest assure that nothing change for the better anywhere by just doing what you're told blindly. Nothing.
Hey look, Godwin's Law in action.
One-liners are not debating but still you feel you have to put one up, for what exactly?
How should anyone take you seriously, when you can't be bothered to make an effort. I bet Godwins law suits anyone who can't put up an argument. Too light tbh. I'm not even debating on my native language, which has its disadvantages trust me.
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