Why aren't cloud saves default?

[Sollidottingen]

Steam staff themselves say they don't charge for cloud saves... So why isn't it default for all games?

It provides such a boon to consumers and it would be such an advantage for valve in the online store game.. It seems like a no-brainer?

[KalGimpa]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

i am a consumer too

i would be angry if i was forced to use this

as i said

until recently

i actively avoided it

devs are consumers too

they pay to use steam

they get the choice

They do indeed.

And they have a choice to avoid steam

If

Steam

Enforces

Cloud-support

you have yet to give a reason they should enforce it

while

"i want it"

is a valid reason to ask for something

it is not a compelling reason to force those that do not

[Sollidottingen]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

God forbid something benefits the consumer!

Not everything is so simple, especially how some games can easily eat up the low 256MB max limit for Cloud Saves.

Some games can have infinite saves and can be GBs worth of files.

I have to move all my Skyrim saves to a new folder because I have well over 4k of them and the game only allows 100 at a time.

:summercat2023:

Good example, bad argument. I don't see how you going over an arbitrary limit is a good example for not supporting a feature?

[Sollidottingen]

I also have skyrim.. I also have factorio which goes above the steam cloud limit every time you play it.

I have a hard time seeing how that explains why quake1 with 15kb saves shouldn't have cloud support?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Not everything is so simple, especially how some games can easily eat up the low 256MB max limit for Cloud Saves.

Some games can have infinite saves and can be GBs worth of files.

I have to move all my Skyrim saves to a new folder because I have well over 4k of them and the game only allows 100 at a time.

Good example, bad argument. I don't see how you going over an arbitrary limit is a good example for not supporting a feature?

That was just one example of many. Some of which have been answered above.

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

I also have skyrim.. I also have factorio which goes above the steam cloud limit every time you play it.

I have a hard time seeing how that explains why quake1 with 15kb saves shouldn't have cloud support?

That game came out so long ago. The developers are probably retired by now.

[Sollidottingen]

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

They do indeed.

And they have a choice to avoid steam

If

Steam

Enforces

Cloud-support

you have yet to give a reason they should enforce it

while

"i want it"

is a valid reason to ask for something

it is not a compelling reason to force those that do not

Where did i claim it this was a hostage situation? i'm simply explaining to valve how you provide a better service.

Meanwhile we have you noobs saying that this wouldn't provide better customer service.. You're actively saying this is bad for customers. Like a bunch of dum-dums

[Sollidottingen]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

Good example, bad argument. I don't see how you going over an arbitrary limit is a good example for not supporting a feature?

That was just one example of many. Some of which have been answered above.

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

I also have skyrim.. I also have factorio which goes above the steam cloud limit every time you play it.

I have a hard time seeing how that explains why quake1 with 15kb saves shouldn't have cloud support?

That game came out so long ago. The developers are probably retired by now.

:summercat2023:

Q1 came out several years before steam. Because you're not well versed in gaming culture, i really don't think you're smart enough to tell anyone what would and wouldn't provide better customer service.. I remember telling you this back in May

[Sollidottingen]

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

Good example, bad argument. I don't see how you going over an arbitrary limit is a good example for not supporting a feature?

That was just one example of many. Some of which have been answered above.

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

I also have skyrim.. I also have factorio which goes above the steam cloud limit every time you play it.

I have a hard time seeing how that explains why quake1 with 15kb saves shouldn't have cloud support?

That game came out so long ago. The developers are probably retired by now.

:summercat2023:

Imagine thinking ID software is dead when we have Doom 2016 and Doom eternal xD

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

That was just one example of many. Some of which have been answered above.



That game came out so long ago. The developers are probably retired by now.

Q1 came out several years before steam. Because you're not well versed in gaming culture, i really don't think you're smart enough to tell anyone what would and wouldn't provide better customer service.. I remember telling you this back in May

People who don't know me think what they want. It's fine.

Valve provides the features, developers choose to either use them or not, period.

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

@

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

That was just one example of many. Some of which have been answered above.



That game came out so long ago. The developers are probably retired by now.

Imagine thinking ID software is dead when we have Doom 2016 and Doom eternal xD

Read what I said again, carefully.

[Sollidottingen]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

That was just one example of many. Some of which have been answered above.



That game came out so long ago. The developers are probably retired by now.

:summercat2023:

Q1 came out several years before steam. Because you're not well versed in gaming culture, i really don't think you're smart enough to tell anyone what would and wouldn't provide better customer service.. I remember telling you this back in May

This guy don't know who John Carmack and John Romero is, yet he thinks he knows you should provide customer service xD

If only he listened to me back in may...

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

Q1 came out several years before steam. Because you're not well versed in gaming culture, i really don't think you're smart enough to tell anyone what would and wouldn't provide better customer service.. I remember telling you this back in May

This guy don't know who John Carmack and John Romero is, yet he thinks he knows you should provide customer service xD

If only he listened to me back in may...

You need to read what I said carefully. You are misinterpreting everything I have said, the entire thread.

[Sollidottingen]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

Q1 came out several years before steam. Because you're not well versed in gaming culture, i really don't think you're smart enough to tell anyone what would and wouldn't provide better customer service.. I remember telling you this back in May

People who don't know me think what they want. It's fine.

Valve provides the features, developers choose to either use them or not, period.

:summercat2023:

Nothing hinders valve from providing cloud saves to everyone. Period.

[Zarineth]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

People who don't know me think what they want. It's fine.

Valve provides the features, developers choose to either use them or not, period.

Nothing hinders valve from providing cloud saves to everyone. Period.

But they already do. It's devs, that don't want to use it.

[Sollidottingen]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

This guy don't know who John Carmack and John Romero is, yet he thinks he knows you should provide customer service xD

If only he listened to me back in may...

You need to read what I said carefully. You are misinterpreting everything I have said, the entire thread.

:summercat2023:

I did and i correctly interpreded it as you trolling / talking ♥♥♥♥... You clearly don't know what you're talking about and everyone can safely ignore what you're saying.

[KalGimpa]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

you have yet to give a reason they should enforce it

while

"i want it"

is a valid reason to ask for something

it is not a compelling reason to force those that do not

Where did i claim it this was a hostage situation? i'm simply explaining to valve how you provide a better service.

Meanwhile we have you noobs saying that this wouldn't provide better customer service.. You're actively saying this is bad for customers. Like a bunch of dum-dums

what?

where is this

"hostage"

stuff coming from?

you want valve to force devs to use the cloud system

all in the name of consumers

for some reason forgetting that devs are consumers as well

and that not all of us use it

i say give them the choice

which is the most consumer friendly?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Sollidottingen님이 먼저 게시:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

People who don't know me think what they want. It's fine.

Valve provides the features, developers choose to either use them or not, period.

Nothing hinders valve from providing cloud saves to everyone. Period.

Valve does provide the feature already.

You aren't reading carefully.