Scammers selling Steam account, password and email account instead of the game searched on G2A
I searched Assassin's Creed: Valhalla on PC for Global Steam key and when I opened the "Get Steam Key" after paying for it, I got instructions to use a a Steam account, a password and an email account. The douche seller said that it clearly said it was for "Steam Account". First, I searched for a game, not a Steam Account. Second, Steam will lock any account discovered to have been purchased, so it is a scam to sell them to people. Third, isn't a scam on the internet a form of wire fraud?

Beware of the seller on G2A:
Siastore

About seller
Company name:SIA International LLC
CRN:30-1272785
Street:1309 Coffeen Ave
City:Sheridan
State:Wyoming
Postal code:82801
Country:United States
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Actually, beware of that site. It's filtered for a reason, as it's known that it's a site where accounts get sold (even though they're advertised as games) and where keys acquired through credit card fraud get sold.

Heck, game developers have said they rather have that people pirate their games than buy them from that site.
That's why you don't use scamming grey market sites. You see how the site you named is filtered out? Because it's a scammy grey market site.

There's lots of crimes that occur on the Internet. But the often international nature makes them difficult to do anything about. Laws in other countries may not make it a serious offense. Or some countries aren't that interested in upholding laws or addressing complaints from foreign businesses or individuals. Imagine your local sheriff taking action due to a random complaint against you originating from Singapore or Madagascar or something. It may not be on their top ten thousand things to do list. Same is true when the situation is reversed.

And even if there is some interest it can take years and years for some action to occur.

Which is why you don't use scammy grey market sites and get all outraged when scams occur on them.
En son nullable tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Tem 2023 @ 12:10
Before yesterday's rude awakening, I didn't even know it was a thing to buy or sell accounts as a means of acquiring a single game. It wasn't a lot of money, but I'm as mad as I would be if it were a $100. People just seem to be more sleazy and unethical as the years pass.
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People just seem to be more sleazy and unethical as the years pass.
And consumers more gullible
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That's why you don't use scamming grey market sites. You see how the site you named is filtered out? Because it's a scammy grey market site.

There's lots of crimes that occur on the Internet. But the often international nature makes them difficult to do anything about. Laws in other countries may not make it a serious offense. Or some countries aren't that interested in upholding laws or addressing complaints from foreign businesses or individuals. Imagine your local sheriff taking action due to a random complaint against you originating from Singapore or Madagascar or something. It may not be on their top ten thousand things to do list. Same is true when the situation is reversed.

And even if there is some interest it can take years and years for some action to occur.

Which is why you don't use scammy grey market sites and get all outraged when scams occur on them.

I have used G2A for years and never once knew it to be a "scammy grey market" site and never had any issues buying games or productivity softwareover dozens of purchases. In fact, I never knew that there was such a thing as "scammy grey market" sites list that I should have known to commit to memory. I have had major health issues over the last year which have taken me away from gaming sites, but I can't imagine the world devolved in such a short period of time. In any event, I maintain my right to be outraged and submit that nobody has the onus or the expectation for blame for the ethical violations by others.
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People just seem to be more sleazy and unethical as the years pass.
And consumers more gullible
Perhaps. Relative to the global market and Gen Z's flexible ethics, many older Americans probably are comparably gullible but that is because we live among people who see daylight between right and wrong. While it may be our weakness to be exploited, it is not a character flaw.
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I searched Assassin's Creed: Valhalla on PC for Global Steam key and when I opened the "Get Steam Key" after paying for it, I got instructions to use a a Steam account, a password and an email account. The douche seller said that it clearly said it was for "Steam Account". First, I searched for a game, not a Steam Account. Second, Steam will lock any account discovered to have been purchased, so it is a scam to sell them to people. Third, isn't a scam on the internet a form of wire fraud?

Beware of the seller on ♥♥♥:
Siastore

About seller
Company name:SIA International LLC
CRN:30-1272785
Street:1309 Coffeen Ave
City:Sheridan
State:Wyoming
Postal code:82801
Country:United States

Only buy keys from sites like Eneba, G2.A and HRK

It was at G2.A that it happened. The seller even claimed that the site is allowing those sales under a "pilot program".
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I searched Assassin's Creed: Valhalla on PC for Global Steam key and when I opened the "Get Steam Key" after paying for it, I got instructions to use a a Steam account, a password and an email account. The douche seller said that it clearly said it was for "Steam Account". First, I searched for a game, not a Steam Account. Second, Steam will lock any account discovered to have been purchased, so it is a scam to sell them to people. Third, isn't a scam on the internet a form of wire fraud?

Beware of the seller on ♥♥♥:
Siastore

About seller
Company name:SIA International LLC
CRN:30-1272785
Street:1309 Coffeen Ave
City:Sheridan
State:Wyoming
Postal code:82801
Country:United States
Only buy keys from sites like Eneba, G2.A and HRK

Lol, those are the who is who of shady keyselling sites.
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Before yesterday's rude awakening, I didn't even know it was a thing to buy or sell accounts as a means of acquiring a single game. It wasn't a lot of money, but I'm as mad as I would be if it were a $100. People just seem to be more sleazy and unethical as the years pass.

People don't change, only your awareness of the universal constant does.

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I have used G2A for years and never once knew it to be a "scammy grey market" site and never had any issues buying games or productivity softwareover dozens of purchases. In fact, I never knew that there was such a thing as "scammy grey market" sites list that I should have known to commit to memory. I have had major health issues over the last year which have taken me away from gaming sites, but I can't imagine the world devolved in such a short period of time. In any event, I maintain my right to be outraged and submit that nobody has the onus or the expectation for blame for the ethical violations by others.

Live and learn. Lots of people don't want to know because they benefit from not knowing, and tend to get hostile that something "beneficial" to them has downsides and consequences. Lots of people are willing to ignore the warnings until they get dinged.

Nothing devolved, you just weren't very conscious of some long standing facets of reality. That site being a scammy grey market site isn't a new development, Valve has been filtering it out for years, because it's a scammy grey market site.

Because again, people don't change and the love of ignorance is as typical as their sleaziness.
En son nullable tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Tem 2023 @ 13:06
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I have used G2A for years and never once knew it to be a "scammy grey market" site and never had any issues buying games or productivity softwareover dozens of purchases..
You got lucky...very very lucky. Keys from there are known to get revoked...frequently.
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Before yesterday's rude awakening, I didn't even know it was a thing to buy or sell accounts as a means of acquiring a single game. It wasn't a lot of money, but I'm as mad as I would be if it were a $100. People just seem to be more sleazy and unethical as the years pass.

People don't change, only your awareness of the universal constant does.

İlk olarak Aawulf tarafından gönderildi:

I have used G2A for years and never once knew it to be a "scammy grey market" site and never had any issues buying games or productivity softwareover dozens of purchases. In fact, I never knew that there was such a thing as "scammy grey market" sites list that I should have known to commit to memory. I have had major health issues over the last year which have taken me away from gaming sites, but I can't imagine the world devolved in such a short period of time. In any event, I maintain my right to be outraged and submit that nobody has the onus or the expectation for blame for the ethical violations by others.

Live and learn. Lots of people don't want to know because they benefit from not knowing, and tend to get hostile that something "beneficial" to them has downsides and consequences. Lots of people are willing to ignore the warnings until they get dinged.

Nothing devolved, you just weren't very conscious of some long standing facets of reality. That site being a scammy grey market site isn't a new development, Valve has been filtering it out for years, because it's a scammy grey market site.

Because again, people don't change and the love of ignorance is as typical as their sleaziness.

It is odd that you presume to know me and my mind despite knowing nothing about me and your conclusions contradicting everything I say. Have you been evaluated for antisocial personality disorder? The aggression and hostility is unwarranted and your feedback is not helpful and is obviously not intended to be helpful.

Also, it is absurd to say that people do not change. In your "facet of reality", there would be no point for behavioral studies, psychiatry or psychology, no such thing as rehabilitation and no hope for young to ever mature. But you are just being contrary and would've said that people do change if it refuted me. Stop trolling.
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It is odd that you presume to know me and my mind despite knowing nothing about me and your conclusions contradicting everything I say. Have you been evaluated for antisocial personality disorder? The aggression and hostility is unwarranted and your feedback is not helpful and is obviously not intended to be helpful.

Well going by your multiple statements of "it's never been a problem for me" and "people being dishonest/scammy/sleazy is some kind of new development" I don't think my comments are wild imagination.

And it's pretty typical when someone gets pegged as this or that to resort to, "you could never fathom the depths and complexities of me". But you're a person and that's lots of things known about people, regardless of how special and unique each one of us may be. Pretend to be unknowable if you want, ego is a hell of a drug in my experience.

Everything else is just you projecting your dissatisfaction with my comments, which I understand, no one likes being told the real problem is their ignorance when they'd rather have their arguments, claims and beliefs confirmed.

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Also, it is absurd to say that people do not change. In your "facet of reality", there would be no point for behavioral studies, psychiatry or psychology, no such thing as rehabilitation and no hope for young to ever mature. But you are just being contrary and would've said that people do change if it refuted me. Stop trolling.

People, as in humanity, doesn't change. Not really. The fact that it doesn't change doesn't mean we understand everything about human behavior or that there's nothing to learn. Lots of things don't change, but we're still learning about them.

And don't get me wrong, a person can change. Society can change. But people, we don't change so much as you might think. Dishonesty is a core part of human behavior as much as our tendency to make assumptions and rely on ignorance as a substitute when our knowledge fails us. Those things ain't changing in our lifetimes.

At the end of your day I'm disputing your silly idea that people have devolved in the last year as an explanation for your ignorance on the matter. Nothing has changed, you just weren't aware before, IE ignorant. It's not a crime, it gets us all on occasion. It's part of the human experience. And I'm human as anyone. Are you going to pretend not to be?

I meant no offense, and I understand my post may rub you the wrong way. Such is life.
En son nullable tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Tem 2023 @ 14:28
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