ɆxⱣɍømɨ 2022 年 12 月 23 日 上午 1:48
⚡𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕡𝕣𝕠𝕓𝕝𝕖𝕞 𝕠𝕗 𝕞𝕠𝕕𝕖𝕣𝕟 𝔸𝔸𝔸 𝕘𝕒𝕞𝕖𝕤.⚡
What are your predictions, in what year will new interesting AAA games begin to come out, the purpose of which is to please the player, not the publisher?

I'm talking about the mass character, because isolated cases of good games happen, a good example is "Life Is Strange True Colors", "Guardian of the galaxy", "RE village".

Indeed, in 2020, 2021 and 2022, 9 out of 10 AAA projects have:
1 - Technical problems.
2 - Weak gameplay/plot causing players to abandon the game/complain in a negative review.

From which negative reviews in Steam / on metacritic follow.
This applies to both new games and remasters, where they simply update the textures.

Obviously now they are just saving money on testers, saving development time and releasing a "beta version" to collect player feedback, player money and then update the game.
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The Rt Hon. Sir_Sampie 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 4:06 
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Every year people argue that gaming is dead and that there are issues with gaming. And also every year people argue that some of the best games ever came out.

I've been gaming for 35+ years, there hasn't been a gaming year that I couldn't find fun stuff to play. And that includes AAA, indie and everything inbetween. There is way too much good stuff to ever be able to play in a lifetime.


It's a matter of experience here.

You have 1 200 games in 35 years.
Seriously?

I think you skip indie projects and only play popular games.

A person who has purchased 1 200 games in 35 years is easy to surprise.
Try it with someone who finished 300 games every year.


300 games a year? Wow, I think I'd be burned out of any hobby if I spent that much time on it.
J4MESOX4D 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 4:06 
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Every year people argue that gaming is dead and that there are issues with gaming. And also every year people argue that some of the best games ever came out.

I've been gaming for 35+ years, there hasn't been a gaming year that I couldn't find fun stuff to play. And that includes AAA, indie and everything inbetween. There is way too much good stuff to ever be able to play in a lifetime.
Try it with someone who finished 300 games every year.
Who the hell has time to finish 300 games a year?
ɆxⱣɍømɨ 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 4:27 
引用自 J4MESOX4D
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
Try it with someone who finished 300 games every year.
Who the hell has time to finish 300 games a year?


This is only 1 500 - 2 000 hours per year.

There are 8 800 hours in a year.

I completed Dying Light 2 in 3 days (50 hours) and I'm not the only one who did.

Every player can do this, literally take two days off and play games.

It was the same with Elden Ring, when people played 100 hours a week.
The Rt Hon. Sir_Sampie 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 4:56 
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 J4MESOX4D
Who the hell has time to finish 300 games a year?


This is only 1 500 - 2 000 hours per year.

There are 8 800 hours in a year.

I completed Dying Light 2 in 3 days (50 hours) and I'm not the only one who did.

Every player can do this, literally take two days off and play games.

It was the same with Elden Ring, when people played 100 hours a week.


A normal person sleeps about 2,600 hours a year.

Someone with a full time job will work about 1,700 hours after deducting holiday.

So already, we've only got 4,500 hours left to play with here.

Spending 40% of all your free time playing games is probably not something that most people are able to do. And that's going with your figure where you are suggesting that on average a game only takes 6 hours to finish.
Start_Running 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 5:38 
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 Start_Running
OP. Seems like you specifically have an issue with modern games. Maybe you should step out of the hobby for a while since there's so little content tailored to your tastes.

Other people, who are not you, are having a blast with what's out there. Are there bad, crappy, mediocre games comuing out. Yeah. same as there ever was.


Who is enjoying?
Go to the page of the game Calisto protocol and read reviews.
Or to the BF 2042 game page.
Or modern warfire 2.
Turn on the positive review filter on any of those pages. Granted Callisto protocol did /is suffering from poor performance on some systems but that's normal for high budget releases. I mean You thing doom 3, or Morrowind ran smoothely when they first released? HA!


引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
No one knew about the technical state of cyberpunk before release.

CD Project Red posted on the network the statistics of pre-orders by platform, where the PC had a larger percentage.

Think logically.
If a larger percentage of sales on PC, and in the steam online 1 000 000, it is obvious that the console online is less than 1 000 000, because fewer copies are sold there.

Well anyone who had been through the AAA release cycle a couple times would have seen it coming. I mean This literally happens everytime. The minute I saw the laundry list of promises I knioew it was not going to be the most polished thing at launch. Marketing has a bad habit of making promises the programmers can't reasonably meet in the time given.



引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 Crazy Tiger
Every year people argue that gaming is dead and that there are issues with gaming. And also every year people argue that some of the best games ever came out.

I've been gaming for 35+ years, there hasn't been a gaming year that I couldn't find fun stuff to play. And that includes AAA, indie and everything inbetween. There is way too much good stuff to ever be able to play in a lifetime.


It's a matter of experience here.

You have 1 200 games in 35 years.
Seriously?

I think you skip indie projects and only play popular games.

A person who has purchased 1 200 games in 35 years is easy to surprise.
Try it with someone who finished 300 games every year.
That math doesn't add uip you'd literally have to p[lay through and finish 5 games every week. That's practically a game a day.


I'm setting my X-Button to Autofire.

But those of us who have been gaming since the days of the vic 20 and the atari and earlier ...yeah we tend to have a different perspective on things.

As said. You seem to be tunneled on AAA megareleases so you're looking at an area of the market that maybe counts for 6% of the games released in a given year.


Those of us who look outside that small bubble keep finding new games rto enjoy. Every sale is a battle to decide which of the dozens of games on our wishlists (hundreds for some of us) we should get this time.
J4MESOX4D 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 5:50 
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 J4MESOX4D
Who the hell has time to finish 300 games a year?


This is only 1 500 - 2 000 hours per year.

There are 8 800 hours in a year.

I completed Dying Light 2 in 3 days (50 hours) and I'm not the only one who did.

Every player can do this, literally take two days off and play games.

It was the same with Elden Ring, when people played 100 hours a week.
But that's the same as finishing one game every single day. Most people work, have families, lives outside the home or just don't want to relentlessly be playing games non-stop. I think most gamers on here would struggle to finish 30 every year let alone one a day every day.
Sleepy Yoshi 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 6:20 
I don't agree with your assessment overall, but ultimately if I did my answer would be when consumers (gamers in this case) in mass decide enough is enough.

Forums don't talk nearly as loud as money and the money says "we're ok with the state of gaming". So you might get a bunch of people complaining about x, y and z but you'll still have millions pre-ordering. *shrugs*
Chaosolous 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 7:09 
Games as a service has destroyed most big industry AAA developers. I blame the rise of mobile gaming on literally everything wrong with most game design these days.

And I blame the rise of mobile gaming on the gamers. Shame on anyone who has ever played a mobile game and paid money to it. Along with anyone who pre-orders, kickstarts, battle passes, microtransactions, and or loot boxes. Anyone who ever bought one of those or engaged in its mechanics, you're to blame for the cesspool that gaming has become.

The toxicity was always there, that's not what I'm on about.
Osimos35 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 11:06 
引用自 ɆxⱣɍømɨ
引用自 kaihoefler35
Gaming is dead from a quality and creative standpoint. Most games nowadays just shooters and empty boring open world. Indies try to fill the gap, there is only so much a short bugdet can do. Tired of walking simulators. Plus the internet killed it to. Games are rushed and drop unfinished. Devs get automatically lazy because they know the internet is there as backup to add another update, and another update followed by another update. Game is still janky. Take a look a Cyberjunk 2077! Still Broken, all spaghetti code. I miss the good old days, like 20 years ago. The golden age. I saw a great franchise falling apart, and more followed. Even Gran Turismo 7 is a mess, it was my last stronghold. So sad!


Indie games are the future.
Look at Stray and Cult of the Lamb.
They fight in nominations next to AAA projects.

And these two games have positive reviews rating higher than AAA projects.

Take a look at the next gen version of The Witcher 3.
It would seem that there was already an experience with poor optimization of the original 3rd part, but now a patch for textures is coming out and again lag bugs
Indies and retro is basically all what left for me to play. But yeah, i do understand where you are coming from. Speaking as such, the ray tracing upgrade for Metro really is good. And no bugs so far. For only 10 Euro a fair purchase
Osimos35 2022 年 12 月 24 日 上午 11:12 
引用自 Chaosolous
Games as a service has destroyed most big industry AAA developers. I blame the rise of mobile gaming on literally everything wrong with most game design these days.

And I blame the rise of mobile gaming on the gamers. Shame on anyone who has ever played a mobile game and paid money to it. Along with anyone who pre-orders, kickstarts, battle passes, microtransactions, and or loot boxes. Anyone who ever bought one of those or engaged in its mechanics, you're to blame for the cesspool that gaming has become.

The toxicity was always there, that's not what I'm on about.
Games as a service is pure cancer!
Look what happened to Gran Turismo 7!
Sony and PD promised a classic, old school career mode. See how they lied to us. "GT Cafe" is a shallow form a career mode. Just singles races. Completed in 2 days! And always online, which is disgusting. As soon as the servers are cut off, you can throw your game disc away. This is the fate of all GAS. The reason why i am boycotting this, and will continue to boycott.
On the other side, GT3 and GT2 are over 20 years old, you know what? I still play them. The disc is always ready to launch. DISC MEANS FREEDOM!
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